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Sly 04-09-2014 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20043489)
Oops. Thats very insensitive of you. Please remember to substitute "hard working" with "greedy" next time... so as not to offend those we support with our tax dollars.

I am constantly reminded of the excellent tale of the grasshopper and ants?

Tom_PM 04-09-2014 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20043438)
It is difficult to believe that an area which can support multiple restaurants does not have a single grocery store. It is just against any business logic. impossible to imagine such an area. Well maybe some highway intersection where only few people live, but there are few restaurants for passing car traffic.

It's not hard to find though. http://americannutritionassociation....s-food-deserts

It refers to locations where at least 1/3 of the population according to census live farther than 1 mile from fresh produce and whole foods. 10 miles if it's a rural area. As to why the grocery stores failed and pulled out, that's a good question.

It's the type of location where someone might actually bitch about the cost to feed a family of four at a fast food joint to bring it back around again.

mineistaken 04-09-2014 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20043454)
Let's just say that it was true. The majority of the United States population lives in large urban environments, the major cities. The second group lives in smaller cities or close to smaller cities, which have grocery stores. The third group lives in extreme rural areas, that may or may not have "access to food"…

I understand this. I am saying how come those rural areas can support few restaurants and at the same time no grocery store?
From investors point of view - there is X number of people that is needed for grocery store to be viable investment. And there is Y number of people needed for restaurant investment being viable. X is smaller than Y. And you talk not even about single restaurant and 0 grocery store, but about few restaurants and 0 grocery store.
That is just difficult to imagine. I mean if few restaurants are being profitable in that area it certainly means that one grocery store would be profitable as well. Very profitable... Yet nobody invests in a grocery store there for some reason :)

TheSquealer 04-09-2014 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom_PM (Post 20043498)
It's not hard to find though. http://americannutritionassociation....s-food-deserts

It refers to locations where at least 1/3 of the population according to census live farther than 1 mile from fresh produce and whole foods. 10 miles if it's a rural area. As to why the grocery stores failed and pulled out, that's a good question.

It's the type of location where someone might actually bitch about the cost to feed a family of four at a fast food joint to bring it back around again.

HOLY FUCKING CHRIST!!??!!??!!

They live a whole 1 mile from a super market.

FUCK ME.

For the love of God... someone help these people before they all die.

mineistaken 04-09-2014 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom_PM (Post 20043498)
It's not hard to find though. http://americannutritionassociation....s-food-deserts

It refers to locations where at least 1/3 of the population according to census live farther than 1 mile from fresh produce and whole foods. 10 miles if it's a rural area. As to why the grocery stores failed and pulled out, that's a good question.

It's the type of location where someone might actually bitch about the cost to feed a family of four at a fast food joint to bring it back around again.

Look, I already understand what you mean by living far away from grocery stores. I just question how do "few restaurants" are profitable in certain area where not even a single grocery store could be profitable. It does not make any sense.
Ok you have rural area and 50 people living there so no grocery store there. But how come "few restaurants" are there?

TheSquealer 04-09-2014 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20043521)
Look, I already understand what you mean by living far away from grocery stores. I just question how do "few restaurants" are profitable in certain area where not even a single grocery store could be profitable. It does not make any sense.
Ok you have rural area and 50 people living there so no grocery store there. But how come "few restaurants" are there?

The USDA defines what's considered a food desert and which areas will be helped by this initiative: To qualify as a ?low-access community,? at least 500 people and/or at least 33 percent of the census tract's population must reside more than one mile from a supermarket or large grocery store

Sly 04-09-2014 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom_PM (Post 20043498)
It refers to locations where at least 1/3 of the population according to census live farther than 1 mile from fresh produce and whole foods.

I drove over 1 mile the other day in my wheelchair on a severely bumpy and pothole filled sidewalk/street, just to enjoy the sunny day. Forgive me for not feeling sorry for someone that can't walk one mile, twice a month, to stock up on food for? get this? SURVIVAL.

Too hard to walk home with groceries? I can understand that. That's where you make friends or pay someone. If you can pay for that fast food, you can pay somebody $20 every two weeks to provide you with SURVIVAL transportation.

L-Pink 04-09-2014 09:24 AM

Excluding highway traffic dependent restaurant/fast food locations, rural restaurants tend to be owner operated enterprises. Food suppliers might deliver to him or he makes the 10 mile drive himself. Businesses like his don't survive without a hard work ethic and driving once a week for supplies really isn't that big a deal.

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L-Pink 04-09-2014 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20043525)
The USDA defines what's considered a food desert and which areas will be helped by this initiative: To qualify as a ?low-access community,? at least 500 people and/or at least 33 percent of the census tract's population must reside more than one mile from a supermarket or large grocery store

One whole mile? lol, what a hardship! Where can I donate money for these poor hermits society forgot.

Tom_PM 04-09-2014 09:31 AM

Don't ask me why a grocery store fails in those locations. It's a government study on health and obesity or whatnot. Not hard to find fault with government shit is it.

woj 04-09-2014 09:41 AM

1 mile :1orglaugh

that's not even 5 min driving distance...
by bike you could get there in <10 mins, drunk and with a flat tire on top of that...
even walking shouldn't take much more than 15 minutes....

TheSquealer 04-09-2014 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20043546)
One whole mile? lol, what a hardship! Where can I donate money for these poor hermits society forgot.

I would say these are the people which God himself has forgotten. I mean really... what is the solution? To drive a mile - that takes like 60 seconds? Or... what? Ride a bicycle - that could take up to 5 minutes? Ride with friends? Or... fuck.. walk for 10 minutes to feed your kids? Talk about hardship.

I just imagined explaining this to my grandfather in my head. He cut me off with a disgusted look and punched me in the face.


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