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  • wehateporn
    Promoting Debate on GFY
    • Apr 2007
    • 27176

    #91
    Originally posted by trevesty
    It's called herd immunity. It's probably the most basic concept behind vaccines. It's like entering a conversation about cars and not knowing what an engine is.
    Big Pharma recommend Tylenol / Paracetamol for post-vaccination fever, this is known to decrease the effectiveness of vaccines, so they clearly don't give a damn about so-called Herd Immunity, they just want to sell more of their products

    http://www.thelancet.com/journals/la...208-3/abstract

    "prophylactic administration of antipyretic drugs at the time of vaccination should not be routinely recommended since antibody responses to several vaccine antigens were reduced."

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    • wehateporn
      Promoting Debate on GFY
      • Apr 2007
      • 27176

      #92
      Originally posted by trevesty
      Sure, I understand that there's monied interests involved, but there's not some big conspiracy out there. The crap behind cigarettes came out because people got tired of all the bullshit(in all honesty, I know less than nothing about the history / details surrounding that particular topic).
      Cigarettes are the perfect example as to why we should have absolutely no faith in the FDA and CDC on vaccines.

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      • wehateporn
        Promoting Debate on GFY
        • Apr 2007
        • 27176

        #93
        So let's follow your logic through, so you're comparing these two:-

        1. Child gets MMR vaccine

        2. (Japan) Child gets two vaccines, given at the same time, one for Measles and one for Mumps.

        And you're saying that because there is Autism in both scenarios then that means that MMR doesn't cause Autism. I hope you can see that this logic doesn't stand up to scrutiny as the scenario also exists that both can cause Autism. In both scenarios the child is given concurrent live infections.

        If they really want to test this then we need to have a child who has no vaccines, but Big Pharma keep refusing to conduct that study.


        Originally posted by Paully
        The increase in autism and autistic spectrum disorders in this part of Yokohama displays the same increase over time seen in other parts of the world. Here, though, the increase occurred even when the MMR vaccine was withdrawn. This destroys any possible causative link between use of the vaccine and autism.

        Perhaps the most important features of the study were that it comprehensively covered a population, and that the population was served by a special service testing children for developmental; disorders and using standard methods over the whole period. The quality and validity of the study is superlative, and the size good.

        Whatever causes autism, it is not the MMR vaccine.

        http://www.medicine.ox.ac.uk/bandoli...nes/noMMR.html

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        • wehateporn
          Promoting Debate on GFY
          • Apr 2007
          • 27176

          #94
          There's a study from California which found that the children who regressed into Autism after MMR were the ones who'd been given Tylenol / Paracetamol post-vaccination. The ones who received Ibuprofen did not regress into Autism.

          http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18445737

          "Ibuprofen use after measles-mumps-rubella vaccination was not associated with autistic disorder. This preliminary study found that acetaminophen use after measles-mumps-rubella vaccination was associated with autistic disorder."


          Think about it this way, MMR is a live virus vaccine, that means three concurrent infections for the immune system to deal with, then the next thing the immune system is suppressed with Tylenol / Paracetamol when it's desperately trying to fight three infections at the same time.

          If we look at the peer-reviewed study below we see that autoimmune diseases are induced by over-stimulating the immune system. Autism is caused by an autoimmune disease in the gut which has been started up by MMR + Tylenol(Paracetamol).

          http://www.plosone.org/article/info%...l.pone.0008382

          "Systemic autoimmunity appears to be the inevitable consequence of over-stimulating the host's immune ‘system’ by repeated immunization with antigen, to the levels that surpass system's self-organized criticality."

          There's the info for those who want it, that's the science, but I'm done now as I have work to do.
          Last edited by wehateporn; 04-08-2014, 02:40 AM.

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          • Jel
            Confirmed User
            • Feb 2007
            • 6904

            #95
            Originally posted by trevesty
            McDonald's got sued for their coffee being too hot - the lady, IIRC, won. Does this mean coffee is bad?
            I agree with everything you said, but as a complete aside, and unrelated to anything in this thread, take a look at http://www.upworthy.com/ever-hear-ab...r-millions?g=4

            very eye-opening (basically, it wasn't what the media portrayed as being someone sueing simply because the coffee was too hot - just a few minutes long but worth watching just to be aware of what actually happened)

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            • CurrentlySober
              Too lazy to wipe my ass
              • Aug 2002
              • 38938

              #96
              i lick Pooing in Vaccines...


              👁️ 👍️ 💩

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              • Paully
                www.Max-Hardcore.com
                • Nov 2005
                • 1556

                #97
                Originally posted by wehateporn
                There's a study from California which found that the children who regressed into Autism after MMR were the ones who'd been given Tylenol / Paracetamol post-vaccination. The ones who received Ibuprofen did not regress into Autism.

                http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18445737

                "Ibuprofen use after measles-mumps-rubella vaccination was not associated with autistic disorder. This preliminary study found that acetaminophen use after measles-mumps-rubella vaccination was associated with autistic disorder."


                Think about it this way, MMR is a live virus vaccine, that means three concurrent infections for the immune system to deal with, then the next thing the immune system is suppressed with Tylenol / Paracetamol when it's desperately trying to fight three infections at the same time.

                If we look at the peer-reviewed study below we see that autoimmune diseases are induced by over-stimulating the immune system. Autism is caused by an autoimmune disease in the gut which has been started up by MMR + Tylenol(Paracetamol).

                http://www.plosone.org/article/info%...l.pone.0008382

                "Systemic autoimmunity appears to be the inevitable consequence of over-stimulating the host's immune ?system? by repeated immunization with antigen, to the levels that surpass system's self-organized criticality."

                There's the info for those who want it, that's the science, but I'm done now as I have work to do.
                The 1st is info from a parental survey with 83 kids who were autistic and 80 who weren't. Hardly scientific. The second you point out has references no later than 2009 and was meant to measure the immune system of mice that had their immune system purposefully destroyed by adding high and repeated dosages of antigens.

                Thats it. Nothing about equivalent doses of vaccines that have been given to billions of people and have saved millions if not billions of lives.

                "Systemic autoimmunity appears to be the inevitable consequence of over-stimulating the host's immune ?system? by repeated immunization with antigen, to the levels that surpass system's self-organized criticality."

                I'm sorry if your sister died or became autistic after an immunization. I really am. No one is claiming vaccines are perfect but for you to think that passing out vaccines for free for the most part is some sort of conspiracy or has any other purpose other than saving lives make you a fool.

                So far the known side effects of vaccines are grey hair, wrinkley skin and impotence. Not to mention living past the age of 7 years old.

                There are plenty of places that don't vaccinate. We see them pop up all the time when theres an outbreak or some fucking medical conspiracy/hippy/religious/third world/kings of leon concert group of people who don't vaccinate get together.

                Unless you have devoted your life to saving others through medicine and vaccines and have double blind, placebo controlled, peer reviewed studies then what you say is not only ignorant but dangerous to the overall health of anyone within earshot or maybe even a cough from you.

                I have a kid. I did the research hearing the same shit you did. I talked to multiple doctors and as far as I'm concerned parents should be locked up for not immunizing their kids.

                Pull your head out of your ass. Really.

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                Paullybadboy [@] gmail.com ICQ 631384423

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                • stickyfingerz
                  Doin fine
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 24984

                  #98
                  Originally posted by Sly
                  Hi guys! What better way to start a Monday?



                  http://www.businessinsider.com/cdc-v...graphic-2014-4
                  Hmm I wonder if they take into account the increase in medical care and the ability to treat diseases and illness that used to kill. Wonder if they took into account all the advances in modern medicine outside of vaccines...

                  And you'll notice those are recorded cases of, not of deaths. How many of those without vaccines would not have a single likely death due to our current day level of medical care...

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                  • Paully
                    www.Max-Hardcore.com
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 1556

                    #99
                    Well if it was all about money then why vaccinate. Fill the hospital beds up. You people need to Google polio, smallpox, whooping cough, mumps etc...

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                    • beerptrol
                      Confirmed Asshole
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 12722

                      #100
                      I blame vaccines. They have allowed stupid people to live and breed more stupid people.
                      “If we are to have another contest in the near future of our national existence, I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason and Dixon's but between patriotism and intelligence on the one side, and superstition, ambition and ignorance on the other.”
                      -- Ulysses S. Grant

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                      • Penny24Seven
                        So Fucking What
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 6287

                        #101
                        100 people who need a shot
                        Our site is coming soon. It will be one of the best ever! I know so. Brian and Penny

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                        • arock10
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 6217

                          #102
                          Wehateporn is fapping hard to this thread right now. A wet dream come true

                          Now if only he'd huff some small pox to prove us wrong
                          Sup

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                          • DamianJ
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 15808

                            #103
                            http://www.badscience.net/2008/08/the-medias-mmr-hoax/

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                            • wehateporn
                              Promoting Debate on GFY
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 27176

                              #104
                              Originally posted by Paully
                              Well if it was all about money then why vaccinate. Fill the hospital beds up. You people need to Google polio, smallpox, whooping cough, mumps etc...
                              How much do they make from mild childhood illnesses like Chicken Pox, Mumps etc which last a week or two? Nothing compared to leaving someone dependent on drugs for life to treat their vaccine-induced autoimmune disease. e.g. Diabetes Type 1

                              Think in terms of adult, imagine having lifetime rebills from a customer compared to one who cancels after 10 days.

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                              • wehateporn
                                Promoting Debate on GFY
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 27176

                                #105
                                Originally posted by beerptrol
                                I blame vaccines. They have allowed stupid people to live and breed more stupid people.
                                Yet vaccines warn on the label that they can harm fertility; it's the vaccinated who are leaving the pool

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