The Power of Vaccines

DANGEROUS THINKING, and even more dangerous to spread this kind of bullshit. This kind of crap is for the weakest of minds who couldn't be bothered to a google search.

No Mark, we are the people who patiently researched this topic, we started out pro-vax like you, but we did our research over many years, we listened to the experts and learned to filter out Pharmaceutical propaganda. If you haven't got the patience to spend time reading through the studies and listening to the experts then you'll keep falling for the propaganda.

http://vaccinesafetyconference.com/videos.html

Actually, I am related to him, he lives in a huge footballer style house, and my pro-vaxx sister couldn't believe it as she wanted her kid to get MMR. Try speaking to your own doctor on the topic, you might be surprised

This is a little off the topic, but your mentioning side effects reminded me of it. A while back there were a bunch of ads on TV for a drug that helped with social anxiety. The commercials showed this hot woman finally feeling good about herself, putting on a tight pair of shorts and a tank top and playing volleyball at a park with a bunch of people that could have been models.

As they list the side effects suicide, anal leakage, diarrhea and high blood pressure were among them...so it's great! You will feel like hanging out with people again! Sadly, you will shit yourself and leak from your ass while out with them then go home and shoot yourself.

It made me laugh, but when you think about it, should we really be putting drugs on the market where suicide is one of the side effects?

The increase in autism and autistic spectrum disorders in this part of Yokohama displays the same increase over time seen in other parts of the world. Here, though, the increase occurred even when the MMR vaccine was withdrawn. This destroys any possible causative link between use of the vaccine and autism.

Perhaps the most important features of the study were that it comprehensively covered a population, and that the population was served by a special service testing children for developmental; disorders and using standard methods over the whole period. The quality and validity of the study is superlative, and the size good.

Whatever causes autism, it is not the MMR vaccine.

http://www.medicine.ox.ac.uk/bandoli...nes/noMMR.html

Have a search around here - You might be surprised at what I am, what my speciality was and what my degree is in...

Its all here on the forum - Educate yourself.....

And Autism is up 78% in the past decade among children.

Go figure.

It's a tough call to make if you have kids and worry about such things.

My problem with vaccines aren't the vaccines themslves, but their one size fits all mentality and combining so many different vaccines in one shot. If a child has a reaction to a vaccine, it's tougher to determine what caused the reaction.

I'm not an anti-vaxxer, I'm more of a pick and choose the vaccines. I'd prefer indivual injections as opposed to a one size fits all, just go ahead and combine everything into one shot, type of person. As someone who has a child that's had extremely adverse reactions to a vaccine and the doctor couldn't pinpoint which element it was, I might be just a bit biased on that point...

yes children growing up in unnatural, alien and sterile environments, cut off from nature and blasted 24-7 with intense and hypnotic information from the electronic devices they are tethered to has nothing to do with impairing normal cognitive development. it must be vaccines ... yeah that's it.

The advances in the way we diagnose autism also have nothing to with the increase...

where did autism go up? world wide?

my feeling is that today every kid that stares for more than 2 minutes out of the window is diagnosed as autistic...

besides that - even if there was a relation, i'd rather "risk" the very small chance of my kid become autistic than having it die from something that could have easily be prevented

Its simply that it is over diagnosed in the US and I suspect under in many other countries - Neurotic American parents like to have a label like that for their less that perfect children...

if your kids are vaccinated, then why worry? Shouldn't the vaccine protect them?

Back from a food break.

Took me a bit to find these, I couldn't remember the details.

Vaccine Court Awards Millions to Two Children With Autism

The federal Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, better known as "vaccine court," has just awarded millions of dollars to two children with autism for "pain and suffering" and lifelong care of their injuries, which together could cost tens of millions of dollars.

Read the rest: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-...b_2468343.html

And then there is this one...

Case Study: Autism and Vaccines

What's unique about Hannah's case is that for the first time federal authorities have conceded a connection between her autistic symptoms and the vaccines she received, though the connection is by no means simple.

Read the rest: http://content.time.com/time/health/...721109,00.html

And this gem from last year....

US media blackout: Court rules that MMR Vaccine caused autism

The Bocca family was awarded 174,000 euro after the Italian Health Ministry conceded the MMR vaccine caused autism in their nine-year-old son Valentino.

Read the rest: http://www.examiner.com/article/us-m...-caused-autism


Like I said before, I'm not saying vaccines are the cause, but I can't rule it out, especially when there are cases like these where they rule in favor of the child and in some cases lock away their medical data afterwards. If there was 100% no connection, then it would be cut and dry and they not award the children millions of dollars. For me, there is enough there to have concern and do a lot of research should the day come when I have to vaccinate my child. I know I turned out fine, so at the very least they would get what I got, but probably nothing more. Just in case.

The problem is in today's world, you can't always trust what the studies show, because so much of the research is paid for by companies whom have profits to protect. Seriously read some of the side effects from a random medication that is advertised during the 6:00 news. Half the side effects of the shit they try to push is worse than what you are treating.

Don't forget there was a time when scientist were saying cigarettes were healthy. Obviously paid scientist, but if you look at what goes on today most drug companies have university researchers on their payrolls. Most research in this country that isn't don't by the private sector is done by universities. Now the pharma companies have the university researchers in their pockets, whom can you trust?

I'm not against vaccinations but there are some that are very sketchy and might be linked to other problems and everything isn't always black & white.

Of course yes. It's idiots that don't understand research or basic math.

My first child will be born in a few weeks. I'lll be making sure it has all vaccines available because I am not a total fucking retard.

The obvious conclusion is that vaccines containing thimerosal have nothing or at best extremely little to do with autism

An obvious hypothesis explaining the continuing rise of cases diagnosed is that we are getting better at identifying it, and/or that the use of the term autism spectrum includes more symptoms that were previously not considered to be related.