Back from a food break.

Took me a bit to find these, I couldn't remember the details.

Vaccine Court Awards Millions to Two Children With Autism

The federal Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, better known as "vaccine court," has just awarded millions of dollars to two children with autism for "pain and suffering" and lifelong care of their injuries, which together could cost tens of millions of dollars.

Read the rest: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-...b_2468343.html

And then there is this one...

Case Study: Autism and Vaccines

What's unique about Hannah's case is that for the first time federal authorities have conceded a connection between her autistic symptoms and the vaccines she received, though the connection is by no means simple.

Read the rest: http://content.time.com/time/health/...721109,00.html

And this gem from last year....

US media blackout: Court rules that MMR Vaccine caused autism

The Bocca family was awarded 174,000 euro after the Italian Health Ministry conceded the MMR vaccine caused autism in their nine-year-old son Valentino.

Read the rest: http://www.examiner.com/article/us-m...-caused-autism


Like I said before, I'm not saying vaccines are the cause, but I can't rule it out, especially when there are cases like these where they rule in favor of the child and in some cases lock away their medical data afterwards. If there was 100% no connection, then it would be cut and dry and they not award the children millions of dollars. For me, there is enough there to have concern and do a lot of research should the day come when I have to vaccinate my child. I know I turned out fine, so at the very least they would get what I got, but probably nothing more. Just in case.

Fiddy people that don't understand science.

Read Bad Science by Ben Goldacre.

Read someone who understands the research, who is English and not in Big Pharma pockets

http://www.badscience.net/category/mmr/

All I know is the last time I got the flu is when I was sitting next to someone at a bar on leave from the military who explained to me she had just been vaccinated with a flu shot all the while she was about to pass out not from drinking but from her very apparent illness.

Of course yes. It's idiots that don't understand research or basic math.

My first child will be born in a few weeks. I'lll be making sure it has all vaccines available because I am not a total fucking retard.

Your sources are SO unbiased and credible.

Oh, hang on...

Finally you quote a REAL scientist who totally understands media bias and double blind peer reviewed research.

Oh, wait...

let's all cherry pick sources its fun

Bill Gates: Vaccine-autism link 'an absolute lie'
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/0....world.health/

http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/about/

WHP, we get it - you really like reposting infantile jpgs with quotes superimposed on them.

It's exactly what's required; when people have been propagandized you need to use every angle possible to snap them out of it. :2 cents:

One angle you do NOT use is stating that your view could very well be wrong.

What the fuck has he got to do with it?

Bullshit like this is a killer - It's bad enough scientists have to fight a war against these diseases, but they have to fight a war with idiots like you as well...

He was a writer for fuck sake, no more qualified than you to share an opinion on the subject...

Thanks to vaccines we no longer have to worry about smallpox.....

The problem is in today's world, you can't always trust what the studies show, because so much of the research is paid for by companies whom have profits to protect. Seriously read some of the side effects from a random medication that is advertised during the 6:00 news. Half the side effects of the shit they try to push is worse than what you are treating.

Don't forget there was a time when scientist were saying cigarettes were healthy. Obviously paid scientist, but if you look at what goes on today most drug companies have university researchers on their payrolls. Most research in this country that isn't don't by the private sector is done by universities. Now the pharma companies have the university researchers in their pockets, whom can you trust?

I'm not against vaccinations but there are some that are very sketchy and might be linked to other problems and everything isn't always black & white.

Why would you even consider a Twitter entry from fucking Donald Trump of all the idiots on this earth would actually bring people to your side? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh Seriously, what is the thought process, it's posts like that that make me lean towards the WHPTroll theory.

This is a little off the topic, but your mentioning side effects reminded me of it. A while back there were a bunch of ads on TV for a drug that helped with social anxiety. The commercials showed this hot woman finally feeling good about herself, putting on a tight pair of shorts and a tank top and playing volleyball at a park with a bunch of people that could have been models.

As they list the side effects suicide, anal leakage, diarrhea and high blood pressure were among them...so it's great! You will feel like hanging out with people again! Sadly, you will shit yourself and leak from your ass while out with them then go home and shoot yourself.

It made me laugh, but when you think about it, should we really be putting drugs on the market where suicide is one of the side effects?

Trump has access to the best doctors money can buy :2 cents:

On another note I happen to be related to one of the top UK doctors, he privately recommends to avoid MMR

He's talking about numbers, the numbers are clear, more were dying from the vaccine. :2 cents:

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh - Now I know you are full of shit...

DANGEROUS THINKING, and even more dangerous to spread this kind of bullshit. This kind of crap is for the weakest of minds who couldn't be bothered to a google search.

Then why do they refuse to use real controls in their studies? A saline solution would do the job just fine, why always compare with another vaccine?

Why do they refuse to test the safety of the full vaccine schedule? Only one vaccine at a time, that's not good science.

Why do they claim to care about Herd Immunity but then recommend Tylenol / Paracetamol after vaccination which is known to prevent vaccines from working?

Why do they only test vaccines on the healthiest people, then push them onto the sick?

Why do they allow themselves to profit from the autoimmune diseases and allergies which their vaccines cause? (conflict of interest)

Why do they only use voluntary reporting of adverse effects? That means only 5%-10% of vaccine damage being reported.

Why are there not many independent studies? We have to trust that Pharma are going to honestly test their own products when they have a huge conflict of interest that if they make us sick they profit? It's clear we have a fox guarding the henhouse.

Why do they not do long-term safety testing? They like testing for a few days, "Yep this one's safe!" they say, yet autoimmune diseases can start 2 months, 12 months or even 5 years down the line.

If Big Pharma were doing the best possible job then I would respect that, but they are not, the whole thing smells like a scam, I've seen people around me go down sick after vaccines, 1 is now dead after having her childhood ruined by her vaccine damage, 1 was resuscitated after vaccination and was banned from having vaccines again, another is on treatment that just about keeps him alive, costs a lot of $'s! I also know of families who've lost babies to Crib Death (caused by the DPT vaccine), I know of people with Chronic Asthma (caused by the DPT vaccine), I have a relative who went down with Diabetes Type 1 after the HiB vaccine.

Unfortunately Big Pharma are profit-hungry scammers and liars, so I'm going to interpret the madness that's going on with vaccines as intentional. These corporations are owned by the same people who profit from war i.e. killing people, so it shouldn't cause a moral issue for them to make money from sickening us.

In fact here's an example of Bayer knowingly (according to their own documents) spreading HIV via one of their products to increase sales of HIV drugs. This is what greed does to people, it's no different to when someone in our industry loses their own moral compass for the sake of chasing the $. :2 cents:

Actually, I am related to him, he lives in a huge footballer style house, and my pro-vaxx sister couldn't believe it as she wanted her kid to get MMR. Try speaking to your own doctor on the topic, you might be surprised :2 cents:

No Mark, we are the people who patiently researched this topic, we started out pro-vax like you, but we did our research over many years, we listened to the experts and learned to filter out Pharmaceutical propaganda. If you haven't got the patience to spend time reading through the studies and listening to the experts then you'll keep falling for the propaganda. :2 cents:

http://vaccinesafetyconference.com/videos.html

"we" as in you and the other voices in your head?

Have a search around here - You might be surprised at what I am, what my speciality was and what my degree is in...

Its all here on the forum - Educate yourself.....

Vaccines are a TOTAL Hoax. Go ahead and be sick with their schtick and die with the lie