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strainer · 03-07-2003, 01:06 PM

I have a niche paysite.

I have around a dozen movies so far, about an hour in length each broken into 5 minute segments.

Since it looks to me like the majority of my members have cable or dsl, members tend to join, download the whole site, and then cancel the recuriing. Then they come back a couple months later and join and get the new batch.

To try to maximize profit, I have been rotating the content. This tends to loose the rebills too, as they look around and don't see all that much.

To try for better retention, I am programming a member's "ticket system". The way this works is, the member gets a menu of all the movies avaialble. Then they can get up to 4 "tickets" a month to watch 4 1 hour movies, whichever ones they want.

The way I have programmed it so far, I track forever their "tickets" so retaining members can watch as many times as they want past movie selections, but get only an average of 1 a week of new movies.

I'm about ready to go live with this.

Any downsides anybody can think of? Seems like it will make the sufers happy, but I'd be intrested in hearing opinions.

playa · 03-07-2003, 01:13 PM

i am trying to get an understanding,,

but i think i better idea is to make those movies
unavailable if the member cancels

xdcdave · 03-07-2003, 01:16 PM

Sounds good but if you swap out a movie that the customer paid for only a few days or so after he paid for it, that will result in one very unhappy customer if he needs to purchase another ticket.

Just my

strainer · 03-07-2003, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by playa
i am trying to get an understanding,,

but i think i better idea is to make those movies
unavailable if the member cancels

That is correct - I didn't say it right. The whole area is still protected by .htaccess, so no membership = no movies. But if select a ticket, as long as you have that some membership you can always watch that movie again, or of course you can download it.

strainer · 03-07-2003, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xdcdave
Sounds good but if you swap out a movie that the customer paid for only a few days or so after he paid for it, that will result in one very unhappy customer if he needs to purchase another ticket.

Just my

The idea is now I never swap out anything. If you select movie "12" you can watch it every day for the rest of your life, as long as you retain.

ZoiNk · 03-07-2003, 01:21 PM

Why not throttle bandwidth or limit the max amount the person can download a day? Much easier.
ZoiNk

playa · 03-07-2003, 01:23 PM

the downside is how much work will it be involved encoding all the movies

strainer · 03-07-2003, 01:25 PM

I thought about throttling, but thats not really my intent. Believe it or not some members watch the same movie 6 times. Don't watnt it on their hard drives, I guess.

I don't have to change any encoding. Just front end the members are with some PHP to access.

J-Reel · 03-07-2003, 01:39 PM

I hate speeding tickets

Mutt · 03-07-2003, 01:49 PM

tough call, i see what you're trying to prevent but 4 movies a month might seem pretty skimpy to some members. Members who can go join AdultBouncer and watch lord knows how many movies, yes most stolen, but surfer doesn't give a shit about that.

if your stuff is really niche and exclusive hopefully enough fans will keep supporting you if you restrict them to 4 movies a month.

this is the reason I despise Bouncer and DeluxePass, they make life friggin tougher for guys like you who shoot or buy exclusive movie content.

Alky · 03-07-2003, 01:59 PM

sounds pretty easy to code, and pretty effective.

03-07-2003, 01:06 PM	#1
strainer Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 418	Members area "tickets"? I have a niche paysite. I have around a dozen movies so far, about an hour in length each broken into 5 minute segments. Since it looks to me like the majority of my members have cable or dsl, members tend to join, download the whole site, and then cancel the recuriing. Then they come back a couple months later and join and get the new batch. To try to maximize profit, I have been rotating the content. This tends to loose the rebills too, as they look around and don't see all that much. To try for better retention, I am programming a member's "ticket system". The way this works is, the member gets a menu of all the movies avaialble. Then they can get up to 4 "tickets" a month to watch 4 1 hour movies, whichever ones they want. The way I have programmed it so far, I track forever their "tickets" so retaining members can watch as many times as they want past movie selections, but get only an average of 1 a week of new movies. I'm about ready to go live with this. Any downsides anybody can think of? Seems like it will make the sufers happy, but I'd be intrested in hearing opinions.

03-07-2003, 01:16 PM	#3
xdcdave Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: North East Posts: 1,911	Sounds good but if you swap out a movie that the customer paid for only a few days or so after he paid for it, that will result in one very unhappy customer if he needs to purchase another ticket. Just my __________________

03-07-2003, 01:21 PM	#6
ZoiNk Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 2,370	Why not throttle bandwidth or limit the max amount the person can download a day? Much easier. ZoiNk __________________ "People can have the Model T in any color - so long as it's black." - Henry Ford

03-07-2003, 01:39 PM	#9
J-Reel Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Boneprone's guest house Posts: 3,782	I hate speeding tickets __________________ Scheck out the new girls at www.hawtmoney.com ICQ 177-447-671

03-07-2003, 01:49 PM	#10
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	tough call, i see what you're trying to prevent but 4 movies a month might seem pretty skimpy to some members. Members who can go join AdultBouncer and watch lord knows how many movies, yes most stolen, but surfer doesn't give a shit about that. if your stuff is really niche and exclusive hopefully enough fans will keep supporting you if you restrict them to 4 movies a month. this is the reason I despise Bouncer and DeluxePass, they make life friggin tougher for guys like you who shoot or buy exclusive movie content. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

03-07-2003, 01:13 PM	#2
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	i am trying to get an understanding,, but i think i better idea is to make those movies unavailable if the member cancels

03-07-2003, 01:23 PM	#7
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	the downside is how much work will it be involved encoding all the movies

03-07-2003, 01:25 PM	#8
strainer Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 418	I thought about throttling, but thats not really my intent. Believe it or not some members watch the same movie 6 times. Don't watnt it on their hard drives, I guess. I don't have to change any encoding. Just front end the members are with some PHP to access.

03-07-2003, 01:59 PM	#11
Alky Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 5,651	sounds pretty easy to code, and pretty effective.