MrTrollkien

I have a few questions about Google Disavow Tool.

Seth Manson

Why ask if there is anyone here to ask?

Just ask the damn question.

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If your website makes money, Google wants you to pay for AdWords, that's all you need to know to understand SEO.

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nico-t

don't use the disavow tool - another scheme from google to make webmasters do the job of google. Like the nazis did in WWII who made traitor civilians rat out jews.

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There is no such thin as an SEO Expert!

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MrTrollkien

Well, I just found today that some domains have xx,xxx links to one of my website.
One domain has 60,000 links to my website (according to google tools).
Do you recommend to add all these links to dishavow list?
Also, which links shall I add, these which has low page rank?

pinkz

do not use the disavow tool do not pass go and do not collect $200

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HerPimp

Remember once you invite Google into your home it must always be sparkling clean and legit.

If you use it, you will be looked at as a responsible webmaster and given a little bump on your other links, yes.

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MrTrollkien

Since my website lost very good google results, I have not many capabilities.

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It's easier not to care about google.

scottybuzz

What to do about a negative SEO attack then?

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MrTrollkien

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Any more thoughts?

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If a site link to your site from thousands pages, maybe that site have your link on all pages. You need to investigate before decide if you disavow that link or not.
If you have to disavow it, you can disavow the whole domain or only some pages.

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MrTrollkien

Some of them have links in footer but it shows (list downloaded from google tools) that they links to my website in many threads but I can not find there links expect that links in the footer. Shall I dishavow links these links as well?

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pinkz

No one here can help you without a domain and list of links pointing at that domain. If you want some help I would suggest you go away and research what a good link is Vs what a bad link is, then go back to webmaster tools and disavow all those links that you have found to be bad.

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MrTrollkien

There are 277 domens with almost 200 000 links. There are 5 domains which have 150 000 links together. Most linked website has 5 page rank (they have 60 000 links to my website), it is website like reddit but for Western European countries - I have never linked there. Rest of 4 pages are blogs/boards which link to my homepage website, they are not spam site but have low page rank (0-1). What you think shall I disavow them?

MrTrollkien

Bump for more views.

mopek1

It doesn't do anything.

Google is an ass.

They put it there but then ask webmasters not to use it so webmasters themselves can do the work for 'G' - but then tell us only to use it as a last resort.

Then, when a webmaster does use it nothing happens.

Just keep doing what you were doing before and move on.

MrTrollkien

I added to them the list which contains 84 domains.

Let see what happens, I read many positive feedbacks about that tool.

nm_

that's what it is there for though - if you're hit with a manual penalty and need to show google that you're making a valid effort to clean up your mistakes (a last resort effort).

it doesn't do anything when you don't follow the guidelines for submitting a request, or submit a request without showing that you've attempted to fix anything first (ie removed the links manually, contacted the webmasters of each site up to 3 times, etc)

lots say that it CAN be used to prune/clean your backlink profile in order to prevent penalties (many believe that the disavow tool essentially nofollows links that you submit to it), and this is where most people probably think it's not working. you usually won't get a response from google when submitting a request, and it can take months to process.

all in all, it does work, mainly when you need to submit a reconsideration request and have someone manually review your site for reinclusion in search.

the main thing OP really should ask himself is doing all this cleaning/rebuilding really worth the time and effort, or is just starting more new sites a better use of time. you can rebound from algo/manual penalties, but it is slow and painful and it takes a ton of time , and + you really need to have a good idea where you fucked up in order to not make things worse/harder on yourself

mopek1

You're right about that. It may work if you've been de-indexed but I know plenty of webmasters (myself included) who have links coming in from all sorts of bad places, WITHOUT any manual penalty, who have tried to use the disavow tool but never got any response.

Klen

Well i'l say,use it if you dont have anything to hide(like mobile redirect,on page black hat seo,etc).If you do have something to hide,then your only option is to get more "good"backlinks which will neutralize effect of bad backlinks.

dehash

Have same problem. . 78 000 fucking back links sitewide from one site(by the way this guy sells links here on GFY and wouldn't remove them per request or even return your email ). I had to use disavow. Just write domain: site.com for entire domain.

On other side if you have a lot of really good links from good domains (good PR/DA/PA), then you don't have to worry(look at big tubes, they have millions back links, but it only coming few thousands domains).
But if you have nothing to loose, then try to use disavow, see if big G. will return you back in top. And you will have to keep adding links from good sites too, not just disavow bad ones. Or it is not going to work.
(took info from here adultseotraining.com )

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MrTrollkien

I done that already, just trying now to get good quality backlinks and waiting if that tool works properly.

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DannyA

If you've got a shitload of footer links there's a good chance that's what caused your penalty. Disavow works but it's only as good as your best guess. There's also a fine line crossed between those links helping you and hurting you, so you may find you don't come back as strong as before those links set off any flags.

With the information given, I probably say go for it, but don't overdo it. Like other people mentioned the alternative is to build the link profile up so the bad links don't outweigh the good, but you have to consider that's going to be time consuming while disavow won't and weight the cost/benefit of it all.

dehash

I mean if after all you will get back in top and will get your 500 hits a day with conversion 1:20 000 then fuck it. Start from scratch. With new keywords.

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nm_

yea you'll never get a response from a disavow request alone, sorry that's what i was trying to explain. You'll only ever get a real human response when you submit a reconsideration request (they look through your disavow as part of the reconsideration process)

i've only had to use the disavow tool on 1 adult site so far, but have used it on lots of different mainstream sites. I haven't ever received a response from a disavow alone, but still do feel it helps. With the adult site, I was hit with the oct 4 penguin update (algo penalty, not manual, my links were really shitty), and made the decision to say fuck it and fix it. Now in March the site is still live, and search traffic has grown every month since. So I personally believe it works if you use it in addition to building more quality links.

nico-t

If it's truly a negative seo attack from for example shitty russian sites Google will eventually notice. If it's really out of proportions, then i would contact Google with a reconsideration request explaining the situation. I'd never use the disavow tool, i hate shit like that from google. Then again i hate google, period.

But it's always guessing what the cause is. I once had a wordpress site. I changed it to another script, with good subpage url redirects to the new subpages to let google know where to go. Then i paid an indian for 10,000 backlinks. Result: gone from the high SERPs.
I though it was the backlink bulk package. 2 years later, when i didn't even think about the old great SERPs anymore, i changed the site back to wordpress. Result: SERPS back. After 2 years of thinking it were the spammy 10,000 links.

dehash

Of course it is. Google saw your instant 10000 links and then next 2 years almost no back links.

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