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DAMNMAN 03-29-2014 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 20031438)
I'm always buying 290X cards -- shoot me an offer. Scrypt-N has been insanely profitable to mine, and I expect it to continue to be in the future. Why 32GB of RAM on those machines? Why Xeon processors? Both seem like unnecessary frivolity.

Actually with the ram and Xeon etc... the machines take a bigger bite of crypto and with an on board memory controller the work load is huge. = more coin

DAMNMAN 03-29-2014 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by PikaPoka (Post 20031615)
We built 5 rigs yesterday with r290x.

http://i.imgur.com/GLzUtnX.jpg

So far so good ;)

Careful when you crank them to the max they get super hot and blow cards. EASY!!!
Got 6 bad/fried R9 290X cards on RMA

DAMNMAN 03-29-2014 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Lichen (Post 20031882)
Stop trying to scam people. Burnt out cards for $500 ??


http://clip2net.com/clip/m84465/1396...clip-144kb.jpg

Those are not R9 290X cards, they are just R9 290s

bushwacker 03-29-2014 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Lichen (Post 20031943)
they're the same cards, dumbass, R290

Wow!! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

DAMNMAN 03-29-2014 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 20031956)
I'm sure you are correct but I thought that cases actually kept machines cooler than having it open because it directs the air in and out as quickly as it can, creating a constant flow - like a river as opposed to a pond, if you see what I mean?

Open with a huge fan has been the best way. When I say these thuings get hot, it's an understatement. Some cards run at almost 90c, I've kept mine under 81c

edgeprod 03-29-2014 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DAMNMAN (Post 20031970)
Actually with the ram and Xeon etc... the machines take a bigger bite of crypto and with an on board memory controller the work load is huge. = more coin

From what I understand of the proof of work involved with Scrypt, that is not the case. What are your hash rates per card? I'd venture to say that they are very near someone using a Sempron 145 and 2GB of RAM. You can likely save yourself a lot of money by not buying unnecessary components. Ask yourself: if everyone else is doing something one way, and I'm breaking that trend, is it because I figured out a better way, or because I'm wrong?


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Originally Posted by DAMNMAN (Post 20031973)
Careful when you crank them to the max they get super hot and blow cards. EASY!!!
Got 6 bad/fried R9 290X cards on RMA

I run mine at 45% fan and 75C-80C, so that they can last for years without issues. In a datacenter, the environment is VERY different than at home -- the cold aisle / hot aisle cooling keeps my cards nice and chilly, the fans just move a bit of air across the surface components.


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Originally Posted by DAMNMAN (Post 20031976)
Those are not R9 290X cards, they are just R9 290s

He doesn't even understand the difference between what he posted and the R9 290's in my rigs, how can you expect him to understand model numbers? There's a reason those who can do, and those who can't troll. It's a lost cause. :1orglaugh

edgeprod 03-29-2014 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bushwacker (Post 20031978)
Wow!! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Yeah, sad that he'd think that ... but you can't expect everyone to know that a TV isn't the same just because it's the same size, LOL .. or a car isn't the same just because they both have four wheels. Some cards are good for gaming, some are good for mining .. if you don't know the difference (or why, and what to modify on the cards to make them perform and be maintainable), you'll just cost yourself money over time. Or, like that guy (I don't recall his name), you'll just sit on the sidelines thinking you know shit, haha.


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Originally Posted by DAMNMAN (Post 20031979)
Open with a huge fan has been the best way. When I say these thuings get hot, it's an understatement. Some cards run at almost 90c, I've kept mine under 81c

Hot aisle / cold aisle is an excellent cooling method -- the de facto for most of the big boys here in FL. You obviously shouldn't be running these from your house, so no data center nowadays shouldn't be able to accommodate your needs.

edgeprod 03-29-2014 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by PikaPoka (Post 20031615)
We built 5 rigs yesterday with r290x.

http://i.imgur.com/GLzUtnX.jpg

So far so good ;)

Yikes, I just noticed what you're mounted on. Be VERY careful with static build-up. Aluminum is better all around, with static-dissipation properties being just one factor.

mineistaken 03-29-2014 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 20031437)
Lost? How would that even be possible? Or do you just not understand the mechanisms of trading?

So nobody lose when trading?
I thought for someone to earn in trading someone has to lose. Apparently losing is not possible... :thumbsup

edgeprod 03-29-2014 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20031990)
So nobody lose when trading?
I thought for someone to earn in trading someone has to lose. Apparently losing is not possible... :thumbsup

His implication (through his lack of understanding) was that the value of the currency somehow affected me or even mattered. As a market-maker, I make money regardless of whether the trade is up or down.

2030 03-29-2014 04:13 PM

fid for sal\\

mineistaken 03-29-2014 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 20031994)
His implication (through his lack of understanding) was that the value of the currency somehow affected me or even mattered. As a market-maker, I make money regardless of whether the trade is up or down.

But you also mine a lot of stuff so coin price affects your bottom line.

Penny24Seven 03-29-2014 04:51 PM

holy crap Edge. When we did it which was less then half it was so fucking hot in the room I thought the FBI would raid it thinking we had a grow house LOL.
You are really in this big time. Very cool

edgeprod 03-29-2014 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20032002)
But you also mine a lot of stuff so coin price affects your bottom line.

Only if you have a shitty understanding of mining. As prices fall, competition decreases, which lowers the overall difficulty. I mine more coins during these periods, more reliably, which turns into the same or more money. Alternatively, you mine more coins with less competition, then sell them later, which is a very large multiple (this is often what I do with mining proceeds during downturns).

For me personally, since some of my equipment is on contract, I make money no matter what the price.

And that is why I chuckle at the "so far off base, they're not even in the same ballpark" attempts to troll. I only even bother to respond to them so other less-informed people don't take the words of fools as gospel.

edgeprod 03-29-2014 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian837 (Post 20032015)
holy crap Edge. When we did it which was less then half it was so fucking hot in the room I thought the FBI would raid it thinking we had a grow house LOL.
You are really in this big time. Very cool

Indeed. For security and cooling reasons, my rigs are in data centers. I'd never run them in my house, that's amateur-hour. Asking for someone to either come rob you or for a fire to start.

DAMNMAN 03-29-2014 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 20031982)
Yeah, sad that he'd think that ... but you can't expect everyone to know that a TV isn't the same just because it's the same size, LOL .. or a car isn't the same just because they both have four wheels. Some cards are good for gaming, some are good for mining .. if you don't know the difference (or why, and what to modify on the cards to make them perform and be maintainable), you'll just cost yourself money over time. Or, like that guy (I don't recall his name), you'll just sit on the sidelines thinking you know shit, haha.




Hot aisle / cold aisle is an excellent cooling method -- the de facto for most of the big boys here in FL. You obviously shouldn't be running these from your house, so no data center nowadays shouldn't be able to accommodate your needs.

At my mining center I have a 48 inch exhaust fan pulling 23,000 CFM through the miners and out of the room. Keeps things very cool. No cooling just heat removal. (Cheap)

DAMNMAN 03-29-2014 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by anexsia (Post 20031677)
How do you like the 290X ? I have a 7950 @ 1050/1500 for gaming right now but I plan on selling my old i5 2500k and 7950 on Ebay so I can buy a Radeon 290 (non X) for gaming.

BTW, you can flash this 290 to an 290X easy.

edgeprod 03-29-2014 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DAMNMAN (Post 20032040)
BTW, you can flash this 290 to an 290X easy.

To the bios, yes, but not all 290 cards had 290X components. It was actually a small number of them, and is a big reason I can get such a good price for mine.

keysync 03-29-2014 10:42 PM

I'm curious what the average amount of dogecoin mined in a day with the current difficulty and using just one of those 290 cards.

ROI is what I'm curious about.

Marcus Aurelius 03-30-2014 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 20031981)
He doesn't even understand the difference between what he posted and the R9 290's in my rigs

How are your cards different?

Lichen 03-30-2014 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DAMNMAN (Post 20031976)
Those are not R9 290X cards, they are just R9 290s

And he is selling R9 290s

ruff 03-30-2014 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 20031438)
I'm always buying 290X cards -- shoot me an offer. Scrypt-N has been insanely profitable to mine, and I expect it to continue to be in the future. Why 32GB of RAM on those machines? Why Xeon processors? Both seem like unnecessary frivolity.

I just switched over to mining Scrypt-N. I get about half the hashrate, but still experimenting. There is some difficulty getting each machine running smoothly. That seems to be discouraging some miners. I have found that in some rigs, I need a little more board memory to get the cards to work properly. Definitely making more money though. You really have to experiment to get your hashrate up, there is no one size fits all.

edgeprod 03-30-2014 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius (Post 20032218)
How are your cards different?

The cards he appears to be talked about are the ones I offered to keys -- those are 290X cards in 290 clothing. The cards he posted in comparison are true 290's. The manufacturing process that used 290X components is long over with. Early on, there was a shortage of 290 components, so manufacturers used 290X components in the 290 cards. When flashed to the 290X bios, the full power of a 290X card is unlocked. This was a VERY SMALL portion of the 290 cards, and only those who carefully researched and purchased were able to get them.

What I'm asking in this thread, however, is where people who sell rigs and components sell them. I'm interested in having my tech build 290X rigs and then resell them at a profit (my volume gets me favorable pricing), but I am unsure of the channel to do so. eBay sounds iffy, so far, is what I've gotten. Sadly, those who know the least know it the loudest, so any good information has kind of been drowned out by "hurr hurr buttcoinsssss". But hey -- GFY.

edgeprod 03-30-2014 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ruff (Post 20032320)
I just switched over to mining Scrypt-N. I get about half the hashrate, but still experimenting. There is some difficulty getting each machine running smoothly. That seems to be discouraging some miners. I have found that in some rigs, I need a little more board memory to get the cards to work properly. Definitely making more money though. You really have to experiment to get your hashrate up, there is no one size fits all.

Yes, the money was great when I switched a while back, and is still damn good now. The technical-know-how barrier to entry is pleasantly high. Also, with the ASIC resistance that Scrypt-N provides, I can keep my GPU farm on that and put the Titans on DOGE, etc, when they get here.

ruff 03-30-2014 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 20032380)
Yes, the money was great when I switched a while back, and is still damn good now. The technical-know-how barrier to entry is pleasantly high. Also, with the ASIC resistance that Scrypt-N provides, I can keep my GPU farm on that and put the Titans on DOGE, etc, when they get here.

The new scrypt ASIC miners are what caused me to switch to Scrypt-N. I ordered a Gridseed to play around with. It mines BTC and Litecoin simultaneously. When the others hit the market, which will be soon, it is going to change the GPU situation a lot and push a lot of miners to Scrypt-N. Don't know what to expect. I suppose a lot of coin devs will be real busy. At any rate, it's very interesting to fuck around with and even more interesting to be able to make money doing it.

edgeprod 03-30-2014 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ruff (Post 20032394)
The new scrypt ASIC miners are what caused me to switch to Scrypt-N. I ordered a Gridseed to play around with. It mines BTC and Litecoin simultaneously. When the others hit the market, which will be soon, it is going to change the GPU situation a lot and push a lot of miners to Scrypt-N. Don't know what to expect. I suppose a lot of coin devs will be real busy. At any rate, it's very interesting to fuck around with and even more interesting to be able to make money doing it.

For sure. Check out the Titans. Order 10 if you can, it's worth the gamble of them not being delivered. $9,995 gets you 250 Mh/s. For under $100k, you're at 2.5 Gh/s on Scrypt. That's amazing for price-per-hash. Oh, and about 4-4.5 amps on a 208V circuit to boot. That means that all 10 Titans can fit on a pair of 30A 208V drops in a data center. It's going to be insane. I can't wait for mine to get here.

Lichen 03-30-2014 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 20032378)
The cards he appears to be talked about are the ones I offered to keys -- those are 290X cards in 290 clothing. The cards he posted in comparison are true 290's. The manufacturing process that used 290X components is long over with. Early on, there was a shortage of 290 components, so manufacturers used 290X components in the 290 cards. When flashed to the 290X bios, the full power of a 290X card is unlocked. This was a VERY SMALL portion of the 290 cards, and only those who carefully researched and purchased were able to get them.

What I'm asking in this thread, however, is where people who sell rigs and components sell them. I'm interested in having my tech build 290X rigs and then resell them at a profit (my volume gets me favorable pricing), but I am unsure of the channel to do so. eBay sounds iffy, so far, is what I've gotten. Sadly, those who know the least know it the loudest, so any good information has kind of been drowned out by "hurr hurr buttcoinsssss". But hey -- GFY.

yoiu're so fucking full of shit :1orglaugh

loser

edgeprod 03-30-2014 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Lichen (Post 20032404)
yoiu're so fucking full of shit :1orglaugh

loser

Nice well-thought-out rebuttal. Sadly, everything I am saying is easily Google'd. You're just not that interesting, sorry.


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