GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum

GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum (https://gfy.com/index.php)
-   Fucking Around & Business Discussion (https://gfy.com/forumdisplay.php?f=26)
-   -   Cam white label flagged for 'thin content' (Google) (https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1137006)

Cyber Fucker 03-30-2014 02:16 PM

This thread is very educative.

john1975 04-04-2014 03:54 PM

somebody should propose the question to Cutts the Putz ... So he could do a silly, little Youtube presentation on it.

what he feels Google's future stance on white labels is. because we need to know.

any others been getting the same Google Spam notices? plz mention the label affected as well if possible.

oppoten 04-04-2014 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john1975 (Post 20038802)
Cutts the Putz

Like it :thumbsup

If he thinks that scraper tubes are duplicate content, then it's reasonable to assume he thinks the same about white labels. Even ones that can be customized.

Stephen 04-04-2014 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john1975 (Post 20029878)
It's a white label... The same site material that hundreds or thousands of other webmasters have. No other changes, and no additional content pages...

Well that's the problem then isn't it?

Look at it from Google's perspective: why would they want to litter their listings with "The same site material that hundreds or thousands of other webmasters have."

Do you think that's what Google's users want?

Folks always harp about these penalties, but it's like if you ran a tube site with 1,000s of copies of the same clip, or a gallery post that all featured the same FHGs submitted by different wms

Zeiss 04-04-2014 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john1975 (Post 20038802)
somebody should propose the question to Cutts the Putz ... So he could do a silly, little Youtube presentation on it.

what he feels Google's future stance on white labels is. because we need to know.


xpimp 04-05-2014 02:22 AM

http://www.gay-or-straight.com/Matt%20Cutts

also

https://forums.digitalpoint.com/thre...al-gay.311696/

adultmobile 04-05-2014 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zealotry (Post 20038913)

Hes does not talk of whitelabels there, have him ever explicit talked of whitelabels?
What he say there it is: don't use iframe banners, rss feeds etc., instead write an unique review about each site you promote, with an affiliate link in it. So review sites (and forum posters) should have a very good time, is that so?

xpimp 04-05-2014 07:26 AM

Not too many people are creating those sites because they are so no profitable to monetize. They cannot compare with a sex cam site which provides an entertaining experience for the user and makes him come back again and again to spend more. Let Cutts the Putz to create them and make a living after those, i will not waste my time with some shit like that.

iwantchixx 04-05-2014 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john1975 (Post 20029878)
The same site material that hundreds or thousands of other webmasters have. No other changes, and no additional content pages...just the live cam pages that were allowed to promote.

Did you expect anything else from creating a spam page auto-filled with reused-same(exact) content as 1000's of other sites?

If somene reported it, then you obviously stepped on their toes with spam content.. sorry.. dont feel sorry for you.

iwantchixx 04-05-2014 03:04 PM

Let me add that people are misusing whitelabels. Using them as a site in itself.. Stupid move.

You cant compete with unique content and when you do.. it short-lived. Whitelabels are meant for inclusions in already built and legit sites. Such as we do with one of our sites.

We used a while label co-branded to our site and offered it up on a subdmain as added extra stuff for the viewer. Heck, its not even indexed because we know, you cant rank in search engines on 1000-time duplicated content. It's meant for added bonus and co-branding.. not as a product in itself. Cam programs that tell you different aren't speaking in your best interest, only theirs, while eventually shooting themselves in the foot.

ITraffic 04-05-2014 03:08 PM

churn and burn. the end.

CPA-Rush 04-06-2014 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 20032369)
Our cam program tubecamgirl.com never provided whitelabels, but honestly is not because we forecasted that google will penalize WLs... we do this just for branding, like MFC don't provided WLs.

I am quite sure that having no WLs helped for a while, until months ago we enjoyed fist page rank #2 or #3 place for "free cam girls" type of searches, just under chaturbate and often upper than myfreecams, which makes no sense but we didn't complained.

However, recently for same searches we're at page 2 or even #3, so rank 10th-30th, and we did not changed anything on our end. That's maybe fair as we're not top #5 cam site in the world really, but let me comment on... why google have pushed up in top page some WLs as bongaxxx.com or bongasexcams.com , putting down original content cam sites with no WL's?

My guess it is, since "bongacams.com" it was the fastest growing domain in the cams scope recently, the algorithm associated the keyword cams with bonga, and so pushed up whatever domain with bonga in it. That's where machine learnin AI fails against human editing, now "bonga" is a sex cams keyword for google :)

For some reason, for 3 and 4 word searches there's less bonga WLs, so we're still in first page (barely) for "free girl cams" #9, "free web cam girls" #9:

http://www.google.com/ncr#hl=en&safe...oogle.com&fp=1
http://www.google.com/ncr#hl=en&safe...oogle.com&fp=1

I am not going to add "bonga" words in pages, of course, but SEO guys should take note.

based on your conclusion .. should i buy domain include bonga name ?

i have 2 wls pointed to bongacash - minus word "bonga" but they are really young to get any valuable traffic from google

on another domain some russian visitors come via yandex.ru i think i dont want them :1orglaugh


beside mostly only come when they search for models names not keywords free cam , live chat etc, therefore that traffic not going to participate since the original cam is exist and probably seen it before

socialerts 04-06-2014 05:46 AM

We still didn't get any clear answer as to which cam affiliate got hit this time.
Last rounds were streamate and jasmin (which I don't think have recovered since)

So? Who is it this time?

adultmobile 04-07-2014 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by socialerts (Post 20039830)
We still didn't get any clear answer as to which cam affiliate got hit this time.
Last rounds were streamate and jasmin (which I don't think have recovered since)

So? Who is it this time?

Some whitelabels of streamate and jasmin still rank high for some keywords, and anyway each week things change, it is not easy to answer. Try several cam keywords and search for whitelabels in first page, that's the best way to know the truth.

magicmike 04-07-2014 10:00 AM

Got this notice Jan 24th for our white label so you were lucky you lasted so long.

xpimp 04-07-2014 10:41 AM

Yeah, know the feeling, launching a wl and in 2 months it has been hit by this google shit. In those 2 months, about 10k pages had the time to be indexed and now everything has stopped, as a matter of fact i see a bit of decrease of the old indexed pages. Bonga wl here...

Quote:

Originally Posted by magicmike (Post 20040927)
Got this notice Jan 24th for our white label so you were lucky you lasted so long.


socialerts 04-08-2014 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 20040919)
Some whitelabels of streamate and jasmin still rank high for some keywords, and anyway each week things change, it is not easy to answer. Try several cam keywords and search for whitelabels in first page, that's the best way to know the truth.

True but people here in the thread said they personally received these messages on Google webmaster tools - don't see a reason why they wouldn't share which platform it was.

Also - anyone who did get these messages, did you use any blackhat techniques which might have raised the red flags for Google's algo?

xpimp 04-08-2014 05:07 AM

me, in any case no, i sincerely don t know what those black hat techniques are presuming

adultmobile 04-08-2014 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xpimp (Post 20041866)
me, in any case no, i sincerely don t know what those black hat techniques are presuming

http://www.seo-united.de/blog/wp-con...matt_cutts.gif

http://www.morepro.com/Wordpress/wp-...in-consult.gif

kasun0777 07-23-2014 09:16 AM

I am facing this trouble too. I earned more than $30K with webcamwiz whitelabels.:( I think google catched thousands of webcamwiz whitelabels. We need to change all web page contents. But we can't edit all pages in our whitelabels. Because models are updating automatically to all whitelabels. I think we need to unpublish temporary and send the request to google. After 2,3 week we can add again. Share your best solution please.

1215 07-23-2014 09:44 AM

Thin...how about no content?

If too many people are posting the exact same white label things, it's a shock you guys don't get nailed for dupe content too.

Google needs to leave shit alone tho. They're well passed the point of annoying.

xpimp 07-23-2014 01:03 PM

i will report google to google for thin content - it hasn't any unique content, just scraps all day content from other sites

oppoten 07-23-2014 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 20042087)
<--Kutz-->

Don't feed his ego. I think he probably reads GFY.

lezinterracial 07-23-2014 08:35 PM

Switch to Bing. Tell people they can earn gift cards from their searches. I got an Amazon gift card.

adultmobile 07-24-2014 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lezinterracial (Post 20168250)
Switch to Bing. Tell people they can earn gift cards from their searches. I got an Amazon gift card.

I use bing often since some months, at times I open both bing and google to search certain stuff.

baddog 07-24-2014 08:44 PM

Yeah, switching to a different search engine is definitely the way to go; no one uses Google anyway.

anexsia 07-24-2014 09:43 PM

I don't really have any trouble with Google but I find that a lot of my visitors are coming from Bing more and more anyways

baddog 07-24-2014 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anexsia (Post 20169476)
I don't really have any trouble with Google but I find that a lot of my visitors are coming from Bing more and more anyways

Well, if your site is flagged for thin content I think I understand why. :winkwink:

john1975 07-25-2014 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kasun0777 (Post 20167628)
I am facing this trouble too. I earned more than $30K with webcamwiz whitelabels.:( I think google catched thousands of webcamwiz whitelabels. We need to change all web page contents. But we can't edit all pages in our whitelabels. Because models are updating automatically to all whitelabels. I think we need to unpublish temporary and send the request to google. After 2,3 week we can add again. Share your best solution please.

hehe, just noticed my thread here bumped while searching whats goin on.

I've lost webcamwiz google keyword traffic lately as well...but haven't updated my front page with the new stuff they've been recommending the last few months yet. (additional stuff / descriptions added to distinguish our white label main page from others)

you recommend any paid keyword traffic for signups or no? i'm guessin u had decent organic google traffic.

Andreweb 07-25-2014 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john1975 (Post 20169909)
hehe, just noticed my thread here bumped while searching whats goin on.

I've lost webcamwiz google keyword traffic lately as well...but haven't updated my front page with the new stuff they've been recommending the last few months yet. (additional stuff / descriptions added to distinguish our white label main page from others)

you recommend any paid keyword traffic for signups or no? i'm guessin u had decent organic google traffic.

I updated my wls home page I added custom title and metadescription to more than 100 pages in english and over 50 in italian , I have a lots of blog post and all of this was useless my wl was fagged for thin content, the entire network was hited by google ! I'm wondering who's next ?

Denny 07-25-2014 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andreweb (Post 2017010)
I'm wondering who's next ?

Are there currently any cam WLs that still rank on Google? I don't think so.

oppoten 07-25-2014 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denny (Post 20170115)
Are there currently any cam WLs that still rank on Google? I don't think so.

Some of the big Streamate ones do, and some Chaturbate.

PornDiscounts-V 07-25-2014 11:50 AM

With the ability to create your own webcam site using XML feeds why use a white label?

Zeiss 07-25-2014 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vvvvv (Post 20170271)
With the ability to create your own webcam site using XML feeds why use a white label?

cause of lazyness to write script or cause of having to pay hosting :1orglaugh:1orglaugh usually that's why

Andreweb 07-25-2014 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denny (Post 20170115)
Are there currently any cam WLs that still rank on Google? I don't think so.

I have a WL which is doing pretty well right now but I am sure not for long time !:1orglaugh

Klen 07-25-2014 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andreweb (Post 20170292)
I have a WL which is doing pretty well right now but I am sure not for long time !:1orglaugh

If i would have WL which still ranks good i would do following:
-analyst for what keywords i rank,and to which pages it goes
-download entire site locally
-convert local site to cms like wordpress or any other,,and upload it
-scramble descriptions,by auto replacing words with synonyms
-remove some of content to further reduce duplication ratio
-add new non related content to completely remove duplication ratio

Zeiss 07-25-2014 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 20170319)
If i would have WL which still ranks good i would do following:
-download entire site locally

And how do you download the live stream? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Klen 07-25-2014 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeiss (Post 20170335)
And how do you download the live stream? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

With some sort of hotlink :)

Zeiss 07-25-2014 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 20170339)
With some sort of hotlink :)

Most programs with embed live chat option have their logo on it... :Oh crap:disgust

CPA-Rush 07-25-2014 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeiss (Post 20170341)
Most programs with embed live chat option have their logo on it... :Oh crap:disgust

i use rtmpdump to grab streamed shows and there is no logo , but i think u mean something more tricky :)


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:23 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
©2000-, AI Media Network Inc123