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Old 03-18-2014, 11:04 AM   #1
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If Russia was USA's ally and the Ukraine was Russia, how would the news be different?

What would be different about the reporting on this situation if the allegiances of these countries were switched?
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Old 03-18-2014, 11:17 AM   #2
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news is always told in the perspective of bullshit
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Old 03-18-2014, 11:29 AM   #4
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Two kids get in a fight, we'll call them David and Roger. David's dad says it's Roger's fault. Roger's dad says it's David's fault.

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Old 03-18-2014, 11:33 AM   #5
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What would be different about the reporting on this situation if the allegiances of these countries were switched?
This dude would have been sent in by now...

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Old 03-18-2014, 12:51 PM   #6
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What would be different about the reporting on this situation if the allegiances of these countries were switched?
you bet ? of course.
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Old 03-18-2014, 01:42 PM   #7
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The idea of people getting together and deciding what country they want to be part of scares the shit out of the world's leaders. Because freedom is and always has been an illusion. To the rest of us it doesn't matter. If NY decided to join Canada you can bet the white house would send troops. Not because the rest of the USA wanted them to, just because you don't get to decide who you pay taxes to. The man with the gun decides that.
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Old 03-18-2014, 02:55 PM   #8
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Ukraine sits on 39 trillion cubic feet of natural gas reserves. That's about one-quarter the world's entire proven reserves. One company that has bet big on Ukraine's natural gas is US-based Chevron.

Back in November 2013, the company signed a 50-year deal with Ukraine's ousted president Viktor Yanukovich. The deal involved developing the Olesska shale gas field with $350 million to $400 million spent on exploratory drilling. The total investment would then go up to $10 billion. Ukraine's then-Energy Minster Stavytsky estimated that as much as 353 billion cubic feet of natural gas could be extracted every year. That translates to roughly $1.7 billion in revenues per year on the upper end given current natural gas prices.

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Without Crimea, Ukraine looks set to lose an important piece of its economic and energy future: valuable undersea oil and gas fields that lie just offshore the Crimean peninsula. Exploiting those Black Sea fields could help reduce Ukraine?s dependence on Russian gas imports.

And Big Oil had been interested: Before the overthrow of former President Viktor Yanukovych, Ukraine was on the verge of signing a deal with a group, including Exxon Mobil (XOM) and Royal Dutch Shell (RDS.B), that was prepared to spend $735 million to drill two wells off Crimea?s southwest coast. ?Exxon and Shell are now in a legal limbo,?

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If Europe wants Russian oil and gas, chances are it?s going through Ukraine. Actually, it doesn?t just want it: Europe needs it. Russia supplies 40 per cent of Europe?s oil and gas; 80 per cent of that goes through Ukraine.

Right now, the pipelines flow west from Russia and into Romania, Hungary, Slovakia and Poland. But there are plans for the routes to extend further and take fuel onwards to Italy, Austria and Germany ? the biggest consumer of Russian fuel.

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Whose interest would it be in to destabilize the Ukraine government of Yanukovich?
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Old 03-18-2014, 03:11 PM   #9
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Whose interest would it be in to destabilize the Ukraine government of Yanukovich?
you need to post the photo of an european minister in ukraine to answer...
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Old 03-18-2014, 03:38 PM   #10
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Whose interest would it be in to destabilize the Ukraine government of Yanukovich?
That's a good question, both sides are aware what's at stake.

One of them acting and using all the triumphs they hold (Russia) the other one going hysterical and trying to play the "democracy" card ("The West").

Both of them are in it for gold.

Whatever the western plan to "support democracy" in Ukraine was it's becoming a horrible clusterfuck and I wish they'll be able to suck up their loss and won't get into anything stupid or violent that would further affect the regular folks there.
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