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SekobA 03-02-2014 03:14 PM

try to be more active.. do same exercises ..visit some mountan place....that can help you for sure!

MaDalton 03-02-2014 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20001514)
I stopped drinking beer pretty much, now it's just rum! And rum has zero carbs.

one liter of pure alcohol has 9000 calories - a shot of rum has like 60 calories

http://www.nutracheck.co.uk/calories...es_in_rum.html

doesnt matter if it has carbs or not

Vendzilla 03-02-2014 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by deltav (Post 20001870)
There is that little problem of all alcohol being converted to sugars, i.e. carbs.

Not all alcohol, Rum, Gin, Tequila and Vodka don't
http://voices.yahoo.com/alcoholic-be...s-3504395.html

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20001903)
one liter of pure alcohol has 9000 calories - a shot of rum has like 60 calories

http://www.nutracheck.co.uk/calories...es_in_rum.html

doesnt matter if it has carbs or not

Given my size and daily intake, 60 calories is nothing, compared to an apple that 116

TheSquealer 03-02-2014 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20001903)
one liter of pure alcohol has 9000 calories - a shot of rum has like 60 calories

http://www.nutracheck.co.uk/calories...es_in_rum.html

doesnt matter if it has carbs or not

This is a common misconception. Though alcohol has calories in terms of the energy value it possesses, your body has a very difficult time metabolizing it for energy and for the most part, its broken down into acetate, not stored as fat.

nexcom28 03-02-2014 04:06 PM

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by Brian837 (Post 20001776)
do you worry about getting the aids from having your ass plowed? That might be part of the problem


dyna mo 03-02-2014 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20001903)
one liter of pure alcohol has 9000 calories - a shot of rum has like 60 calories

http://www.nutracheck.co.uk/calories...es_in_rum.html

doesnt matter if it has carbs or not

I'm with MaDalton on this one, 1 shot of rum is pure sugar, 60+ calories of refined sugar = ~3-4 tablespoons of refined sugar.

Rum is refined from sugarcane, this sort of sugar is a carbohydrate, a bad one.

wehateporn 03-02-2014 06:27 PM

To lower blood pressure naturally simply eat lots of bananas and some dark chocolate (85%+) :2 cents:

oppoten 03-02-2014 08:10 PM

More pills doesn't always mean more meds. I'll be taking more pills with going back onto my *old* medication, but it's a lower dose than I'm taking right now.

And some pills are medically necessary, and not an avoidance of personal responsibility. There are certain users on GFY who clearly need to take their meds :2 cents:

bean-aid 03-02-2014 08:18 PM

http://www.blendtec.com/

The miracle blender.

Fruits, avocados, bananas, kale, greens, yogurt... throw it in the blender and make it a ritual every day. Your BP will lower.

420 03-02-2014 08:22 PM

Maybe the side effects of some of the first 20 meds is increased blood pressure?

Vendzilla 03-02-2014 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20002064)
I'm with MaDalton on this one, 1 shot of rum is pure sugar, 60+ calories of refined sugar = ~3-4 tablespoons of refined sugar.

Rum is refined from sugarcane, this sort of sugar is a carbohydrate, a bad one.

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Originally Posted by 420 (Post 20002165)
Maybe the side effects of some of the first 20 meds is increased blood pressure?

NOPE, Rum is made from sugar, but in the process, all the carbs go bye bye

http://www.livestrong.com/article/32...-sugars-carbs/

Rum is free from added sugar or carbs, is typically made from sugarcane or molasses, and comes in a variety of styles: white rum, amber rum, dark rum, spiced rum and aged rum.

Captain Kawaii 03-03-2014 01:39 AM

The problem is not the sugar in the alcohol. The problem is that alcohol raises your BP.
Raising your BP speeds up the rate the heart pumps and speeding up the rate it shoots blood through your kidneys, causing scarring. Scarring sends you on the road to kidney disease and eventual death if you don't have a heart attack or stroke first.

I have high BP and am taking drastic steps to reduce weight, change diet and trying not to drink. That is hard.

Weightlifting without losing weight first only adds strain to your heart because muscle weighs more than fat.

My doctor at UCLA Medical Center advised me to go on a 1250 calorie a day diet and walk at least 1 hour each day while taking prescribed meds.

No tricks, no games, no plans...just simple way.

After living outside US for 3 months now I can tell you I believe most American food is poison. Wholefoods type stores being the exception.

dyna mo 03-03-2014 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20002224)
NOPE, Rum is made from sugar, but in the process, all the carbs go bye bye

http://www.livestrong.com/article/32...-sugars-carbs/

Rum is free from added sugar or carbs, is typically made from sugarcane or molasses, and comes in a variety of styles: white rum, amber rum, dark rum, spiced rum and aged rum.

It says there's No ADDED sugar or carbs. They don't have to add sugar it's already got 64 calories of sugar.

calories come from 3 sources only- fats, proteins, carbs. That's it. That's no debatable So those 64 calories come from the sugar, such is a carb.

Rum is pure sugar.

dyna mo 03-03-2014 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 20002349)
The problem is not the sugar in the alcohol.

It's not an either or proposition. ALcholol is bad for blood pressure and blood sugars, and many other things.


I've mentioned here I am a 30+ year serious type 1 diabetic, I know from studying this and from monitoring my own blood sugars and seeing the spikes from the sugars that come in hard liquors.

In fact, those spikes can and do contribute to blood pressure issues. And that's just one thing shitty blood sugars complicates.

The problem is very much the sugar in alcohol.

Jel 03-03-2014 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by oppoten (Post 20002158)
And some pills are medically necessary, and not an avoidance of personal responsibility. There are certain users on GFY who clearly need to take their meds :2 cents:

lifestyle choices are (almost) always about personal responsibility. eg Over-worrying is a choice. Might not feel like it, but you can do something about it. If you don't, that's your choice, and your prerogative of course, but that is still a lifestyle choice.

I should know, I over-worry the absolute shit out of fucking TONS of stuff, and should the point ever come that my BP is way high, I'll need to change that, or die young :thumbsup

So anyway yeah, of course some pills are medically necessary, but if I'm taking heart pills because eg I'm a bloated 350 slob, my lack of personal responsibility has led to me being grossly overweight, and thus having to take heart pills and whatever else fat fucks need to stave off death.

Whining about how I eat too much because blahblahblah or how I worry too much because that's just the way I am, and not doing anything about it = avoiding my responsibilities :2 cents:

Bryan G 03-03-2014 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20002457)
It's not an either or proposition. ALcholol is bad for blood pressure and blood sugars, and many other things.


I've mentioned here I am a 30+ year serious type 1 diabetic, I know from studying this and from monitoring my own blood sugars and seeing the spikes from the sugars that come in hard liquors.

In fact, those spikes can and do contribute to blood pressure issues. And that's just one thing shitty blood sugars complicates.

The problem is very much the sugar in alcohol.

What about beer is there as much sugar in beers as hard liquors?

Vendzilla 03-03-2014 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20002451)
It says there's No ADDED sugar or carbs. They don't have to add sugar it's already got 64 calories of sugar.

calories come from 3 sources only- fats, proteins, carbs. That's it. That's no debatable So those 64 calories come from the sugar, such is a carb.

Rum is pure sugar.

If you do a simple search asking how many carbs are in Rum, the answer you get back on Google is Zero!

dyna mo 03-03-2014 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 20002524)
What about beer is there as much sugar in beers as hard liquors?


Yes, beer has different sugars, but most all alcohols are sugars to varying degrees.


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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20002783)
If you do a simple search asking how many carbs are in Rum, the answer you get back on Google is Zero!

Well, It does. But doing the same search for how many calories are in Rum, the answer is 64.

Those calories are probably too few to register as a % of total diet/carbs, thus the 0 carbs but they are there. I'd bet if the scale were more refined they would show up on the google carb search.


But again, all calories can only come from protein, fat or carbs. those 64 cals are pure sugar.

Vendzilla 03-03-2014 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20002871)
Yes, beer has different sugars, but most all alcohols are sugars to varying degrees.




Well, It does. But doing the same search for how many calories are in Rum, the answer is 64.

Those calories are probably too few to register as a % of total diet/carbs, thus the 0 carbs but they are there. I'd bet if the scale were more refined they would show up on the google carb search.


But again, all calories can only come from protein, fat or carbs. those 64 cals are pure sugar.

I'm not concerning myself with calories or fat, just carbs. Alcohol in rum gets it calories from the sugar it uses in fermentation, that same fermentation eliminates the carbs.
They are empty calories, but a Rum and diet coke is zero everything else. I drink rum straight on the rocks. And I'm starting to lose weight again.

dyna mo 03-03-2014 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20002904)
I'm not concerning myself with calories or fat, just carbs. Alcohol in rum gets it calories from the sugar it uses in fermentation, that same fermentation eliminates the carbs.
They are empty calories, but a Rum and diet coke is zero everything else. I drink rum straight on the rocks. And I'm starting to lose weight again.

Well, I think I also have an overly strict interpretation of what sugars are. I know when I drink hard liquor I'll need to take some insulin because my blood sugar will go up. If I plan on drinking beers, I'll have to take even more/longer acting.


So for me, alcohol = sugars = carbs = required insulin. That's what's been beat into my brain anyway! :1orglaugh

PR_Glen 03-03-2014 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 20001682)
So I just looked up your BP, you are in the highest category! Stop drinking and start running bloke!

that's not always the case. I was running 10k a day running marathons and in top form when i was diagnosed with high blood pressure. I hardly drink at all, I have a low carb diet, i use a cpap machine for sleep apnea and that hasn't helped lower it in the least. Two pills a day keeps it under control though--whether i do all that or not. Mine was higher than his when I first found out.

MaDalton 03-03-2014 12:46 PM

there are no "empty" calories - when you take in more calories than you burn, you gain weight. and vice versa. end of story

it's just that carbs as energy source are stored by the body in fat cells when you dont need the energy right away - opposed to fat (as weird as it sounds)

thats why low carb diets work when you dont work out

pornguy 03-03-2014 01:35 PM

My BP went up about 3 years ago. was like 156/110 or something. I started shortly there after watching what I eat and exercising with a pretty good diet. I lost 38 pounds. My BP now seems to be at an average of 117/77 I do still take 1/2 pill a day but see the doc in 2 weeks and I find out if I can come off of that.


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