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I am also in the process of doing the same, and feel the same about my Reps at CCBill and Epoch. The only real differance between you and I JT is that you had the resources from the sale of YP to help fund your business (which I applaud) while I have had to start from zero to where I am now. If I had had even an influx of 100k we might be having lunch on my yacht. Sadly for me it must be on your yacht for now. :DActually, we are now in the midst of getting our own merchant account. Why have I left it this long? Many reasons...
My main objective from the beginning was to get to a magic number of "successful" sites in my network. I have that now. This now enables me to do what I set out to do when creating my company. Amongst many things, launch a tube.
The next step in the process is to get our own merchant account and to bring in the expertise we need. I had zero experience in running my own merchant account and saw this as a risk to my company and was more focused in the creation of new sites.
Processing with Epoch, Segpay and CCBill took away any billing headaches. I looked at their fee's, however high/low, as a cost of doing business. They take care of everything, and none of them have ever missed a payment. I have built up a very close relationship with all 3 companies and I have 100% trust in them. Quite simply, they are my friends.
Having my own merchant account will improve my already very healthy bottom line by a nice %. But until I was ready, I did not want the added risk to my company.
Not everyone will agree with how I have done it, but I am happy with the way I run my company.
Oh - and I believe 100% without question that simply adding Bitcoin to your Join page killed sales. I'm surprised by 50% but probably shouldn't be; Bitcoin is all over the news lately and not in a good way.Last edited by The Porn Nerd; 03-02-2014, 03:42 PM.My Affiliate Programs:
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Makes sense to me.
Back to the original post. I don't doubt your results with Bitcoin for a number of reasons. I think most were already stated in this thread.
I'd be willing to bet if you asked random people to play the word association game and you said Bitcoin their responses would be Hacked, Illegal Sites, Money Laundering, Drug Dealing or what the hell is that and they would have to go and look it up.
And for the few that understand cryptocurrency they 1. Probably know where to get free porn 2. Would need to verify conversion rates and 3. Why the need for anonymous transactions without recourse? Is this site on the up and up?
Being that there is no subscription model in place and how volatile BTC is I'm not sure it's worth even trying to figure it out until things in the Bitcoin market flatten out if ever.
There might be legitimate markets for anonymous payments but like someone else here posted you can pick up a prepaid credit card at any corner store.
I think your cc sales dropped due to the negative connotation of btc and nothing else.
Again, just a guess.
Edit: Sorry, a bit redundant after Porn Nerds post.Last edited by Paully; 03-02-2014, 03:46 PM.Comment
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I hear you, but without my knowledge of the tubes, I feel that I would have wasted the $100k investment because I know I would have been too precious over my content to give the tubes 40-50% of a full clip in an edited tube version.I am also in the process of doing the same, and feel the same about my Reps at CCBill and Epoch. The only real differance between you and I JT is that you had the resources from the sale of YP to help fund your business (which I applaud) while I have had to start from zero to where I am now. If I had had even an influx of 100k we might be having lunch on my yacht. Sadly for me it must be on your yacht for now. :D
Oh - and I believe 100% without question that simply adding Bitcoin to your Join page killed sales. I'm surprised by 50% but probably shouldn't be; Bitcoin is all over the news lately and not in a good way.
And I get sea sick, so you'll have to have lunch at one of my houses ;)Comment
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And that's the assumption I make too.Makes sense to me.
Back to the original post. I don't doubt your results with Bitcoin for a number of reasons. I think most were already stated in this thread.
I'd be willing to bet if you asked random people to play the word association game and you said Bitcoin their responses would be Hacked, Illegal Sites, Money Laundering, Drug Dealing or what the hell is that and they would have to go and look it up.
And for the few that understand cryptocurrency they 1. Probably know where to get free porn 2. Would need to verify conversion rates and 3. Why the need for anonymous transactions without recourse? Is this site on the up and up?
Being that there is no subscription model in place and how volatile BTC is I'm not sure it's worth even trying to figure it out until things in the Bitcoin market flatten out if ever.
There might be legitimate markets for anonymous payments but like someone else here posted you can pick up a prepaid credit card at any corner store.
I think your cc sales dropped due to the negative connotation of btc and nothing else.
Again, just a guess.
Edit: Sorry, a bit redundant after Porn Nerds post.Comment
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Hi,Actually, we are now in the midst of getting our own merchant account. Why have I left it this long? Many reasons...
My main objective from the beginning was to get to a magic number of "successful" sites in my network. I have that now. This now enables me to do what I set out to do when creating my company. Amongst many things, launch a tube.
The next step in the process is to get our own merchant account and to bring in the expertise we need. I had zero experience in running my own merchant account and saw this as a risk to my company and was more focused in the creation of new sites.
Processing with Epoch, Segpay and CCBill took away any billing headaches. I looked at their fee's, however high/low, as a cost of doing business. They take care of everything, and none of them have ever missed a payment. I have built up a very close relationship with all 3 companies and I have 100% trust in them. Quite simply, they are my friends.
Having my own merchant account will improve my already very healthy bottom line by a nice %. But until I was ready, I did not want the added risk to my company.
Not everyone will agree with how I have done it, but I am happy with the way I run my company.
I am not sure if you are already working with NETbilling to obtain your own merchant account. If not, we can certainly help provide everything that you need including the MiD, platform, customer service, chargeback management and more.
Please let us know if we can help you in any way. We are experts in I helping merchants make the transition from 3rd party processors to having the control and flexibility of your own merchant account.
Thanks, Mitch
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Oh wow I had no idea JT was from YouPorn. Cool stuff.I am also in the process of doing the same, and feel the same about my Reps at CCBill and Epoch. The only real differance between you and I JT is that you had the resources from the sale of YP to help fund your business (which I applaud) while I have had to start from zero to where I am now. If I had had even an influx of 100k we might be having lunch on my yacht. Sadly for me it must be on your yacht for now. :D
Oh - and I believe 100% without question that simply adding Bitcoin to your Join page killed sales. I'm surprised by 50% but probably shouldn't be; Bitcoin is all over the news lately and not in a good way.Comment
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We took the same approach. I think it's a smart approach. Slow and steady.Actually, we are now in the midst of getting our own merchant account. Why have I left it this long? Many reasons...
My main objective from the beginning was to get to a magic number of "successful" sites in my network. I have that now. This now enables me to do what I set out to do when creating my company. Amongst many things, launch a tube.
The next step in the process is to get our own merchant account and to bring in the expertise we need. I had zero experience in running my own merchant account and saw this as a risk to my company and was more focused in the creation of new sites.
Processing with Epoch, Segpay and CCBill took away any billing headaches. I looked at their fee's, however high/low, as a cost of doing business. They take care of everything, and none of them have ever missed a payment. I have built up a very close relationship with all 3 companies and I have 100% trust in them. Quite simply, they are my friends.
Having my own merchant account will improve my already very healthy bottom line by a nice %. But until I was ready, I did not want the added risk to my company.
Not everyone will agree with how I have done it, but I am happy with the way I run my company.Comment
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Well,it is possible how it affect , especially now on mtgox demise.For example,i was just checking namesilo.com and noticed how they accept bitcoin,and it kind left me with a "bad taste in mouth".I am also in the process of doing the same, and feel the same about my Reps at CCBill and Epoch. The only real differance between you and I JT is that you had the resources from the sale of YP to help fund your business (which I applaud) while I have had to start from zero to where I am now. If I had had even an influx of 100k we might be having lunch on my yacht. Sadly for me it must be on your yacht for now. :D
Oh - and I believe 100% without question that simply adding Bitcoin to your Join page killed sales. I'm surprised by 50% but probably shouldn't be; Bitcoin is all over the news lately and not in a good way.
So if it affect me that way who knows everything about bitcoin and know about it's existence from beginning,imagine how would affect average who probably doesn't know anything about it except maybe mtgox demise.Comment
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The amusing thing about some of the responses in this thread, and the reddit posts, is that they think JT is somehow some kind of mis-informed idiot.
Idiot maybe, mis-informed certainly not.
His detractors, that have access to zero data about the results of his test, seem to think they have more knowledge than him to make their grand claims. Whereas JT looked at the evidence and reacted to what it told him.
Now if he had looked at the evidence and ignored it, and carried on accepting Bitcoin so that he could hang with the cool kids, now that would be the mark of a real fool.
Just the type of fool you need to keep your pyramid/ponzi/MLM scheme on track...........
For those of you who dont know, this all started when a Bitcoin fanboy was hyping the porn.com press release on another forum. JT decided to try it. The results speak for themselves."Americas Hitler" JD Vance.
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i dont want to get pissed, but this is not normal! 1:71 to 1:4482 overnight ... hope all is good at their side as my new announced project is going live very soon ...
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I hear you, but without my knowledge of the tubes, I feel that I would have wasted the $100k investment because I know I would have been too precious over my content to give the tubes 40-50% of a full clip in an edited tube version.
And I get sea sick, so you'll have to have lunch at one of my houses ;)
Nice to see a real business thread on GFY.
Care to share your YouPorn / Xhamster signup ratios?no sig, sorry
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1000s indeed yet the one you suggested would land you with a lawsuit, on top of not allowing billing through PayPal.
Derp.Last edited by DamianJ; 03-03-2014, 05:36 AM.Comment
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Ruseful why don't you provide your affiliates with better hosted videos like the ones you upload to the tubes? Why should surfers bother buying from us when they can get much better content on the tubes?Hey surfers how about some The Best Porn SitesComment
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Feel free to email me [email protected] and I'll look into it. None of my other affiliates, are seeing this, and neither are we on the site.Comment
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We are currently "in between" affiliate managers right now, but email me with your request/s and I'll see what we can do to help our affiliatesComment
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pfff every affiliate manager has said you don't want to do it :PHey surfers how about some The Best Porn SitesComment
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The last time I said no was months ago and I often do change my mind
A lot has changed now so I'd be willing to look into just what's needed from our side. We have fallen short in the support of our affiliates, that's very evident, but if I take one thing from this thread, it was Shap's comment about going after the 5-10% revenues! and I see potentially more by actually giving the affiliates what they really need.
That statement will sound pathetic I know, but as I alluded in my earlier post, I came into the Paysites business with a sole purpose of making use of the little knowledge I had of the adult industry. And that was monetizing the tubes, not in the support of affiliates. But now is a good time for me to learn, and with your help, I'll try and get you the tools you need.Comment
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The launch of my new Affiliate Program, Eleganxia Bucks, will show you (and anyone else interested) in what we'll be doing from now on with affiliates and tools. My current setup, Porn Nerd Cash, hasn't been updated in awhile since I've been focusing on the new Eleganxia Network (launching in 2 weeks). But before, I would give affs what I THOUGHT they needed: 2 minute clips, 30 second clips, etc. But after doing this for a few years, and considering how the landscape has changed since 2010, I'll be giving out full videos.The last time I said no was months ago and I often do change my mind
A lot has changed now so I'd be willing to look into just what's needed from our side. We have fallen short in the support of our affiliates, that's very evident, but if I take one thing from this thread, it was Shap's comment about going after the 5-10% revenues! and I see potentially more by actually giving the affiliates what they really need.
That statement will sound pathetic I know, but as I alluded in my earlier post, I came into the Paysites business with a sole purpose of making use of the little knowledge I had of the adult industry. And that was monetizing the tubes, not in the support of affiliates. But now is a good time for me to learn, and with your help, I'll try and get you the tools you need.
Well, the same "edited full" videos I give the tubes. After all, the biggest tube sites ARE affiliates and they get 6-10 minute clips so why shouldn't your average every day affiliate get the same thing? Many of them run smaller tubes who need those "full" clips, too.
Cha-ching!Last edited by The Porn Nerd; 03-03-2014, 01:43 PM.My Affiliate Programs:
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a very wise friend of mine once said that if you can't shout your domain name without having to spell it, to someone in a club, it is shit.
That name just looks like you spit random characters into a 'what domain is available' app.
wtf is wrong with pornnerdcash.com?Comment
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There's nothing wrong with Porn Nerd Cash. This new affiliate program is a more 'focused' collection of erotic-only HD sites (as opposed to a giant network of PORN). LOL
Eleganxia is a play on elegancia, latin for Elegant. So not really that odd. Maybe spanish-speakers can yell it in a club.
Plus, it has an X in it! I'm so clever....:D
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I couldn't agree more. Possibly the worst affiliate program name I've ever seen.Comment
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QFT!


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My
... You should seriously rethink that one.
It may sound clever to you, but it looks like an incorrectly spelled name. Not to mention, you are expecting all of your affiliates to remember that bizarre spelling, which they won't. K.I.S.S.Comment
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all i got out of this thread is i'd like to have reallyusefulcash using my feeds
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I was personally a little stunned to see this. Why would you use a domain name that stands little to zero chance of people typing it in or typing the correct word in a search engine... much less, remembering it or even speaking it?.
Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.
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If you have nothing invested in the name yet, just change it. However, even if you have invested in it and you really want to keep that name...
1 Register PornNerdCash.com
2 Redirect Elgancxiaswhateveryouwant.com to PornNerdCash.com
3 ProfitComment
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Interesting read. Since testing for the past 3 weeks, our results are somewhat better. 40SomethingMag went from 1:718 to 1:599; XLGirls went from 1:713 to 1:633; Scoreland went from 1:562 to 1:454. February isn't a great month to test change of options, specially with shorter month and V-day right smack in the middle, but even so, our results were not so bad.GetSCORECash.com | In the Biz Since 1991
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GetSCORECash.com | In the Biz Since 1991
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Interesting read. Since testing for the past 3 weeks, our results are somewhat better. 40SomethingMag went from 1:718 to 1:599; XLGirls went from 1:713 to 1:633; Scoreland went from 1:562 to 1:454. February isn't a great month to test change of options, specially with shorter month and V-day right smack in the middle, but even so, our results were not so bad.
So as usual the advice is that some stuff works for some people and tanks for others - you just have to test it and see.
Although you say your ratios improved, but not whether any revenue came in directly through Bitcoin."Americas Hitler" JD Vance.
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Let's wait and see the sites themselves then people can judge. I've shown the name to MANY "non-porn" people and they loved it.
Affiliates will signup if they can make money.
The affiliate program name however I am willing to change - it was done quickly to have something in place when I began this. But Eleganxia people can pronounce. LOL Think 'Elegance..ia. Not that hard and many Spanish-speakers know that word.
Thanks for the feedback.
People on this very board told me the same exact thing about:
ErosExotica
Fellucia Blow
And both those sites have earned millions in revenue over the past 4 years. Type-ins? Through the roof. UNIQUENESS sells, even if it's a made-up word. In time, with branding, people "get it". So I hold my own council when it comes to naming things.
PS: Affiliates will be promoting the 4 HD sites in the Network, NOT "Eleganxia" itself.Last edited by The Porn Nerd; 03-04-2014, 08:32 AM.My Affiliate Programs:
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The difference is in doing things where one looks at little details and seeing that they either offer you another small advantage, or another small disadvantage.Let's wait and see the sites themselves then people can judge. I've shown the name to MANY "non-porn" people and they loved it.
Affiliates will signup if they can make money.
The affiliate program name however I am willing to change - it was done quickly to have something in place when I began this. But Eleganxia people can pronounce. LOL Think 'Elegance..ia. Not that hard and many Spanish-speakers know that word.
Thanks for the feedback.
People on this very board told me the same exact thing about:
ErosExotica
Fellucia Blow
And both those sites have earned millions in revenue over the past 4 years. Type-ins? Through the roof. UNIQUENESS sells, even if it's a made-up word. In time, with branding, people "get it". So I hold my own council when it comes to naming things.
PS: Affiliates will be promoting the 4 HD sites in the Network, NOT "Eleganxia" itself..
Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.
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That's actually a main reason for doing this new network. It won't have the word 'porn' in it anywhere, and many affs who want to promote 'erotic'-style content won't do so if the word PORN is splattered everywhere.
When the sites launch you will see the attention to detail and how this new operation is more 'focused' than Porn Nerd Network (which is going strong and will continue to grow).
I still believe having something unique and differant works well in this over-saturated 'free porn' environment.My Affiliate Programs:
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I'll be more obvious next time. Yes, the extra sales came through BitCoin.
On a related note, newly added options can also drive users to use other less-used options particularly when the price differs. Ive seen this happen over and over again over the years.Last edited by SCORE Ralph; 03-04-2014, 08:45 AM.GetSCORECash.com | In the Biz Since 1991
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Any idea of bitcoin targeted traffic? Did you market for additional traffic?
Meaning... is it at *all* possible your normal traffic shot to say 1:1500 but then targeted bit traffic brought the ratio back down to lower then average?
p.s. I looked at your pre-join page and it, to me, is set up very well. Nice and compact and easy to follow. Default to credit card join and text not too big.Comment
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I am talking about the program name, not the pay sites in the network.Let's wait and see the sites themselves then people can judge. I've shown the name to MANY "non-porn" people and they loved it.
Affiliates will signup if they can make money.
The affiliate program name however I am willing to change - it was done quickly to have something in place when I began this. But Eleganxia people can pronounce. LOL Think 'Elegance..ia. Not that hard and many Spanish-speakers know that word.Comment
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Well I will consider a new Affiliate Program name (if I can come up with one) since I never liked 'Eleganxia Bucks' to begin with. I threw it up there because I was working on six websites simultaneously. For now it's just a domain and a Header so easily changeable.
BTW: Proven affiliates are already promoting the 'SD' versions of these websites now and making bank so they will signup to promote the HD versions, too.
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Here ya go.
Free of charge.
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The sales points on that are so dull.
"50/50 revshare" - really? FUCK ME! that is amazingly unusual!
"weekly updates" - holy moly, that's a new idea!
"100% exclusive content" - I have just shat myself, no one EVER does that!!!
"high converting tours" - thank fuckery. i hate low converting tours!
you see my point. EVERY FUCKING PROGRAMME does that. there are many things I am sure are unique to the porn nerd network. Pick those things, not the things every single other programme does!
almost everyone does this, look at any programme's ads or home page. all the same. you could take a logo off one, put it on another and no one would know!
Alternatives:
Option One
"Whatever your niche, the porn nerd will convert it"
"Erotica, Busty, Vintage, Bollywood, MILFs and more"
"Click here to get started"
Option Two
"Talk Nerdy to me"
"The Porn Nerd wants your traffic"
"Click here to get nerdy"
Option Three
"Revenge of the Porn Nerds"
"We're taking over. Join us"
"Become a porn nerd today - click here"
etc
See my point? Do something DIFFERENT and your ad will get much higher response.Comment
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Thanks very much!The sales points on that are so dull.
"50/50 revshare" - really? FUCK ME! that is amazingly unusual!
"weekly updates" - holy moly, that's a new idea!
"100% exclusive content" - I have just shat myself, no one EVER does that!!!
"high converting tours" - thank fuckery. i hate low converting tours!
you see my point. EVERY FUCKING PROGRAMME does that. there are many things I am sure are unique to the porn nerd network. Pick those things, not the things every single other programme does!
almost everyone does this, look at any programme's ads or home page. all the same. you could take a logo off one, put it on another and no one would know!
Alternatives:
Option One
"Whatever your niche, the porn nerd will convert it"
"Erotica, Busty, Vintage, Bollywood, MILFs and more"
"Click here to get started"
Option Two
"Talk Nerdy to me"
"The Porn Nerd wants your traffic"
"Click here to get nerdy"
Option Three
"Revenge of the Porn Nerds"
"We're taking over. Join us"
"Become a porn nerd today - click here"
etc
See my point? Do something DIFFERENT and your ad will get much higher response.
Yes I totally agree with you - that banner was a 'quickie' since I had to have something in place right away. So I need to come up with some new ads.
Now where do I send the PayPal for your consultants fee?
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As a tag line, I'd go with something like: "Nerds Do Get Paid For Porn"Comment
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No fee at this stage, that was a freebie showing you the sort of thinking I do. If you want to talk about working together in the future, feel free to email me damianjennings gmailComment
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That's very exciting thinking!
Can we get back to bitcoin discussion causing damage, or not causing damage?Comment




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