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  • Ruseful

    #151
    Originally posted by Paully
    My guess is his 3rd party rates with that volume are pretty close to that of having his own MID without the customer service issues, fighting chargebacks, volatility of merchant accounts etc...

    Just a guess though. I'm curious as well.
    Yep Paully, you are correct. I like to stay in a comfort zone when possible.

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    • bean-aid
      So Fucking Banned
      • Jun 2011
      • 16493

      #152
      Don't bill too much on any one MID. Get many of them... everyone has their own number per MID. Your experts can tell you what they recommend.

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      • The Porn Nerd
        Living The Dream
        • Jun 2009
        • 19787

        #153
        Originally posted by Ruseful
        Actually, we are now in the midst of getting our own merchant account. Why have I left it this long? Many reasons...

        My main objective from the beginning was to get to a magic number of "successful" sites in my network. I have that now. This now enables me to do what I set out to do when creating my company. Amongst many things, launch a tube.

        The next step in the process is to get our own merchant account and to bring in the expertise we need. I had zero experience in running my own merchant account and saw this as a risk to my company and was more focused in the creation of new sites.

        Processing with Epoch, Segpay and CCBill took away any billing headaches. I looked at their fee's, however high/low, as a cost of doing business. They take care of everything, and none of them have ever missed a payment. I have built up a very close relationship with all 3 companies and I have 100% trust in them. Quite simply, they are my friends.

        Having my own merchant account will improve my already very healthy bottom line by a nice %. But until I was ready, I did not want the added risk to my company.

        Not everyone will agree with how I have done it, but I am happy with the way I run my company.
        I am also in the process of doing the same, and feel the same about my Reps at CCBill and Epoch. The only real differance between you and I JT is that you had the resources from the sale of YP to help fund your business (which I applaud) while I have had to start from zero to where I am now. If I had had even an influx of 100k we might be having lunch on my yacht. Sadly for me it must be on your yacht for now. :D

        Oh - and I believe 100% without question that simply adding Bitcoin to your Join page killed sales. I'm surprised by 50% but probably shouldn't be; Bitcoin is all over the news lately and not in a good way.
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        • Paully
          www.Max-Hardcore.com
          • Nov 2005
          • 1556

          #154
          Originally posted by Ruseful
          Yep Paully, you are correct. I like to stay in a comfort zone when possible.
          Makes sense to me.

          Back to the original post. I don't doubt your results with Bitcoin for a number of reasons. I think most were already stated in this thread.

          I'd be willing to bet if you asked random people to play the word association game and you said Bitcoin their responses would be Hacked, Illegal Sites, Money Laundering, Drug Dealing or what the hell is that and they would have to go and look it up.

          And for the few that understand cryptocurrency they 1. Probably know where to get free porn 2. Would need to verify conversion rates and 3. Why the need for anonymous transactions without recourse? Is this site on the up and up?

          Being that there is no subscription model in place and how volatile BTC is I'm not sure it's worth even trying to figure it out until things in the Bitcoin market flatten out if ever.

          There might be legitimate markets for anonymous payments but like someone else here posted you can pick up a prepaid credit card at any corner store.

          I think your cc sales dropped due to the negative connotation of btc and nothing else.

          Again, just a guess.

          Edit: Sorry, a bit redundant after Porn Nerds post.
          Last edited by Paully; 03-02-2014, 03:46 PM.

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          • Ruseful

            #155
            Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
            I am also in the process of doing the same, and feel the same about my Reps at CCBill and Epoch. The only real differance between you and I JT is that you had the resources from the sale of YP to help fund your business (which I applaud) while I have had to start from zero to where I am now. If I had had even an influx of 100k we might be having lunch on my yacht. Sadly for me it must be on your yacht for now. :D

            Oh - and I believe 100% without question that simply adding Bitcoin to your Join page killed sales. I'm surprised by 50% but probably shouldn't be; Bitcoin is all over the news lately and not in a good way.
            I hear you, but without my knowledge of the tubes, I feel that I would have wasted the $100k investment because I know I would have been too precious over my content to give the tubes 40-50% of a full clip in an edited tube version.

            And I get sea sick, so you'll have to have lunch at one of my houses ;)

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            • Ruseful

              #156
              Originally posted by Paully
              Makes sense to me.

              Back to the original post. I don't doubt your results with Bitcoin for a number of reasons. I think most were already stated in this thread.

              I'd be willing to bet if you asked random people to play the word association game and you said Bitcoin their responses would be Hacked, Illegal Sites, Money Laundering, Drug Dealing or what the hell is that and they would have to go and look it up.

              And for the few that understand cryptocurrency they 1. Probably know where to get free porn 2. Would need to verify conversion rates and 3. Why the need for anonymous transactions without recourse? Is this site on the up and up?

              Being that there is no subscription model in place and how volatile BTC is I'm not sure it's worth even trying to figure it out until things in the Bitcoin market flatten out if ever.

              There might be legitimate markets for anonymous payments but like someone else here posted you can pick up a prepaid credit card at any corner store.

              I think your cc sales dropped due to the negative connotation of btc and nothing else.

              Again, just a guess.

              Edit: Sorry, a bit redundant after Porn Nerds post.
              And that's the assumption I make too.

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              • NETbilling
                Confirmed User
                • Jan 2002
                • 8598

                #157
                Originally posted by Ruseful
                Actually, we are now in the midst of getting our own merchant account. Why have I left it this long? Many reasons...

                My main objective from the beginning was to get to a magic number of "successful" sites in my network. I have that now. This now enables me to do what I set out to do when creating my company. Amongst many things, launch a tube.

                The next step in the process is to get our own merchant account and to bring in the expertise we need. I had zero experience in running my own merchant account and saw this as a risk to my company and was more focused in the creation of new sites.

                Processing with Epoch, Segpay and CCBill took away any billing headaches. I looked at their fee's, however high/low, as a cost of doing business. They take care of everything, and none of them have ever missed a payment. I have built up a very close relationship with all 3 companies and I have 100% trust in them. Quite simply, they are my friends.

                Having my own merchant account will improve my already very healthy bottom line by a nice %. But until I was ready, I did not want the added risk to my company.

                Not everyone will agree with how I have done it, but I am happy with the way I run my company.
                Hi,

                I am not sure if you are already working with NETbilling to obtain your own merchant account. If not, we can certainly help provide everything that you need including the MiD, platform, customer service, chargeback management and more.

                Please let us know if we can help you in any way. We are experts in I helping merchants make the transition from 3rd party processors to having the control and flexibility of your own merchant account.

                Thanks, Mitch


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                • Shap
                  Confirmed User
                  • May 2001
                  • 8313

                  #158
                  Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                  I am also in the process of doing the same, and feel the same about my Reps at CCBill and Epoch. The only real differance between you and I JT is that you had the resources from the sale of YP to help fund your business (which I applaud) while I have had to start from zero to where I am now. If I had had even an influx of 100k we might be having lunch on my yacht. Sadly for me it must be on your yacht for now. :D

                  Oh - and I believe 100% without question that simply adding Bitcoin to your Join page killed sales. I'm surprised by 50% but probably shouldn't be; Bitcoin is all over the news lately and not in a good way.
                  Oh wow I had no idea JT was from YouPorn. Cool stuff.

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                  • Shap
                    Confirmed User
                    • May 2001
                    • 8313

                    #159
                    Originally posted by Ruseful
                    Actually, we are now in the midst of getting our own merchant account. Why have I left it this long? Many reasons...

                    My main objective from the beginning was to get to a magic number of "successful" sites in my network. I have that now. This now enables me to do what I set out to do when creating my company. Amongst many things, launch a tube.

                    The next step in the process is to get our own merchant account and to bring in the expertise we need. I had zero experience in running my own merchant account and saw this as a risk to my company and was more focused in the creation of new sites.

                    Processing with Epoch, Segpay and CCBill took away any billing headaches. I looked at their fee's, however high/low, as a cost of doing business. They take care of everything, and none of them have ever missed a payment. I have built up a very close relationship with all 3 companies and I have 100% trust in them. Quite simply, they are my friends.

                    Having my own merchant account will improve my already very healthy bottom line by a nice %. But until I was ready, I did not want the added risk to my company.

                    Not everyone will agree with how I have done it, but I am happy with the way I run my company.
                    We took the same approach. I think it's a smart approach. Slow and steady.

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                    • Klen
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 32235

                      #160
                      Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                      I am also in the process of doing the same, and feel the same about my Reps at CCBill and Epoch. The only real differance between you and I JT is that you had the resources from the sale of YP to help fund your business (which I applaud) while I have had to start from zero to where I am now. If I had had even an influx of 100k we might be having lunch on my yacht. Sadly for me it must be on your yacht for now. :D

                      Oh - and I believe 100% without question that simply adding Bitcoin to your Join page killed sales. I'm surprised by 50% but probably shouldn't be; Bitcoin is all over the news lately and not in a good way.
                      Well,it is possible how it affect , especially now on mtgox demise.For example,i was just checking namesilo.com and noticed how they accept bitcoin,and it kind left me with a "bad taste in mouth".
                      So if it affect me that way who knows everything about bitcoin and know about it's existence from beginning,imagine how would affect average who probably doesn't know anything about it except maybe mtgox demise.

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                      • NewNick
                        Confirmed User
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 7229

                        #161
                        Originally posted by ITraffic
                        The amusing thing about some of the responses in this thread, and the reddit posts, is that they think JT is somehow some kind of mis-informed idiot.

                        Idiot maybe, mis-informed certainly not.

                        His detractors, that have access to zero data about the results of his test, seem to think they have more knowledge than him to make their grand claims. Whereas JT looked at the evidence and reacted to what it told him.

                        Now if he had looked at the evidence and ignored it, and carried on accepting Bitcoin so that he could hang with the cool kids, now that would be the mark of a real fool.

                        Just the type of fool you need to keep your pyramid/ponzi/MLM scheme on track...........

                        For those of you who dont know, this all started when a Bitcoin fanboy was hyping the porn.com press release on another forum. JT decided to try it. The results speak for themselves.
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                        • lucas131
                          ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 11475

                          #162
                          maybe thats the reason why i had with hostpital 6 sales at ratio 1:71 first 4 days, then i am from fifth day till now with one sale with ratio 1:4482? it must be this, or shaving ...

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                          • lucas131
                            ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 11475

                            #163
                            nevemind, i dont want to get pissed today ... edit

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                            • lucas131
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                              • Aug 2004
                              • 11475

                              #164
                              Originally posted by lucas131
                              maybe thats the reason why i had with hostpital 6 sales at ratio 1:71 first 4 days, then i am from fifth day till now with one sale with ratio 1:4482? it must be this, or shaving ...
                              i dont want to get pissed, but this is not normal! 1:71 to 1:4482 overnight ... hope all is good at their side as my new announced project is going live very soon ...

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                              • SpicyM
                                Confirmed User
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 4575

                                #165
                                Originally posted by Ruseful
                                I hear you, but without my knowledge of the tubes, I feel that I would have wasted the $100k investment because I know I would have been too precious over my content to give the tubes 40-50% of a full clip in an edited tube version.

                                And I get sea sick, so you'll have to have lunch at one of my houses ;)

                                Nice to see a real business thread on GFY.

                                Care to share your YouPorn / Xhamster signup ratios?
                                no sig, sorry

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                                • DamianJ
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Jul 2006
                                  • 15808

                                  #166
                                  Originally posted by beaner
                                  And me showing through an image 1 way it would not kill sales... and having Damian for 2 pages attack the *copyright* banner of epoch... is ridiculous. 1000 ways to skin a cat...
                                  1000s indeed yet the one you suggested would land you with a lawsuit, on top of not allowing billing through PayPal.

                                  Derp.
                                  Last edited by DamianJ; 03-03-2014, 05:36 AM.

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                                  • cybermike
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jan 2002
                                    • 4121

                                    #167
                                    Ruseful why don't you provide your affiliates with better hosted videos like the ones you upload to the tubes? Why should surfers bother buying from us when they can get much better content on the tubes?
                                    Hey surfers how about some The Best Porn Sites

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                                    • Ruseful

                                      #168
                                      Originally posted by lucas131
                                      i dont want to get pissed, but this is not normal! 1:71 to 1:4482 overnight ... hope all is good at their side as my new announced project is going live very soon ...
                                      Feel free to email me [email protected] and I'll look into it. None of my other affiliates, are seeing this, and neither are we on the site.

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                                      • Ruseful

                                        #169
                                        Originally posted by cybermike
                                        Ruseful why don't you provide your affiliates with better hosted videos like the ones you upload to the tubes? Why should surfers bother buying from us when they can get much better content on the tubes?
                                        We are currently "in between" affiliate managers right now, but email me with your request/s and I'll see what we can do to help our affiliates

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                                        • cybermike
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jan 2002
                                          • 4121

                                          #170
                                          pfff every affiliate manager has said you don't want to do it :P
                                          Hey surfers how about some The Best Porn Sites

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                                          • Ruseful

                                            #171
                                            Originally posted by cybermike
                                            pfff every affiliate manager has said you don't want to do it :P
                                            The last time I said no was months ago and I often do change my mind A lot has changed now so I'd be willing to look into just what's needed from our side. We have fallen short in the support of our affiliates, that's very evident, but if I take one thing from this thread, it was Shap's comment about going after the 5-10% revenues! and I see potentially more by actually giving the affiliates what they really need.

                                            That statement will sound pathetic I know, but as I alluded in my earlier post, I came into the Paysites business with a sole purpose of making use of the little knowledge I had of the adult industry. And that was monetizing the tubes, not in the support of affiliates. But now is a good time for me to learn, and with your help, I'll try and get you the tools you need.

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                                            • The Porn Nerd
                                              Living The Dream
                                              • Jun 2009
                                              • 19787

                                              #172
                                              Originally posted by Ruseful
                                              The last time I said no was months ago and I often do change my mind A lot has changed now so I'd be willing to look into just what's needed from our side. We have fallen short in the support of our affiliates, that's very evident, but if I take one thing from this thread, it was Shap's comment about going after the 5-10% revenues! and I see potentially more by actually giving the affiliates what they really need.

                                              That statement will sound pathetic I know, but as I alluded in my earlier post, I came into the Paysites business with a sole purpose of making use of the little knowledge I had of the adult industry. And that was monetizing the tubes, not in the support of affiliates. But now is a good time for me to learn, and with your help, I'll try and get you the tools you need.
                                              The launch of my new Affiliate Program, Eleganxia Bucks, will show you (and anyone else interested) in what we'll be doing from now on with affiliates and tools. My current setup, Porn Nerd Cash, hasn't been updated in awhile since I've been focusing on the new Eleganxia Network (launching in 2 weeks). But before, I would give affs what I THOUGHT they needed: 2 minute clips, 30 second clips, etc. But after doing this for a few years, and considering how the landscape has changed since 2010, I'll be giving out full videos.

                                              Well, the same "edited full" videos I give the tubes. After all, the biggest tube sites ARE affiliates and they get 6-10 minute clips so why shouldn't your average every day affiliate get the same thing? Many of them run smaller tubes who need those "full" clips, too.

                                              Cha-ching!
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                                              • DamianJ
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Jul 2006
                                                • 15808

                                                #173
                                                Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                ]Eleganxia Network
                                                a very wise friend of mine once said that if you can't shout your domain name without having to spell it, to someone in a club, it is shit.

                                                That name just looks like you spit random characters into a 'what domain is available' app.

                                                wtf is wrong with pornnerdcash.com?

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                                                • Paul
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                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                  • 2637

                                                  #174
                                                  Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                  a very wise friend of mine once said that if you can't shout your domain name without having to spell it, to someone in a club, it is shit.

                                                  That name just looks like you spit random characters into a 'what domain is available' app

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                                                  • The Porn Nerd
                                                    Living The Dream
                                                    • Jun 2009
                                                    • 19787

                                                    #175
                                                    Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                    a very wise friend of mine once said that if you can't shout your domain name without having to spell it, to someone in a club, it is shit.

                                                    That name just looks like you spit random characters into a 'what domain is available' app.

                                                    wtf is wrong with pornnerdcash.com?
                                                    There's nothing wrong with Porn Nerd Cash. This new affiliate program is a more 'focused' collection of erotic-only HD sites (as opposed to a giant network of PORN). LOL

                                                    Eleganxia is a play on elegancia, latin for Elegant. So not really that odd. Maybe spanish-speakers can yell it in a club. Plus, it has an X in it! I'm so clever....:D
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                                                    • Shap
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • May 2001
                                                      • 8313

                                                      #176
                                                      Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                      a very wise friend of mine once said that if you can't shout your domain name without having to spell it, to someone in a club, it is shit.

                                                      That name just looks like you spit random characters into a 'what domain is available' app.

                                                      wtf is wrong with pornnerdcash.com?
                                                      I couldn't agree more. Possibly the worst affiliate program name I've ever seen.

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                                                      • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                                                        Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn
                                                        • Jul 2004
                                                        • 38323

                                                        #177
                                                        Originally posted by DamianJ

                                                        a very wise friend of mine once said that if you can't shout your domain name without having to spell it, to someone in a club, it is shit.
                                                        QFT!

                                                        Originally posted by The Porn Nerd

                                                        Eleganxia is a play on elegancia, latin for Elegant. So not really that odd. Maybe spanish-speakers can yell it in a club. Plus, it has an X in it! I'm so clever....:D




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                                                        • DWB
                                                          Registered User
                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                          • 31779

                                                          #178
                                                          Originally posted by The Porn Nerd

                                                          Eleganxia is a play on elegancia, latin for Elegant. So not really that odd. Maybe spanish-speakers can yell it in a club. Plus, it has an X in it! I'm so clever....:D
                                                          My ... You should seriously rethink that one.

                                                          It may sound clever to you, but it looks like an incorrectly spelled name. Not to mention, you are expecting all of your affiliates to remember that bizarre spelling, which they won't. K.I.S.S.

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                                                          • Phoenix
                                                            BACON BACON BACON
                                                            • Nov 2002
                                                            • 35475

                                                            #179
                                                            all i got out of this thread is i'd like to have reallyusefulcash using my feeds
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                                                            • Shap
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • May 2001
                                                              • 8313

                                                              #180
                                                              Originally posted by DWB
                                                              My ... You should seriously rethink that one.

                                                              It may sound clever to you, but it looks like an incorrectly spelled name. Not to mention, you are expecting all of your affiliates to remember that bizarre spelling, which they won't. K.I.S.S.

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                                                              • ITraffic
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jul 2013
                                                                • 2725

                                                                #181
                                                                can't pronounce that name.

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                                                                • TheSquealer
                                                                  Mayor of Thneedville
                                                                  • Oct 2004
                                                                  • 26174

                                                                  #182
                                                                  Originally posted by The Porn Nerd

                                                                  Eleganxia is a play on elegancia, latin for Elegant. So not really that odd. Maybe spanish-speakers can yell it in a club. Plus, it has an X in it! I'm so clever....:D
                                                                  I was personally a little stunned to see this. Why would you use a domain name that stands little to zero chance of people typing it in or typing the correct word in a search engine... much less, remembering it or even speaking it?
                                                                  .
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                                                                  • Relentless
                                                                    www.EngineFood.com
                                                                    • Aug 2006
                                                                    • 5697

                                                                    #183
                                                                    If you have nothing invested in the name yet, just change it. However, even if you have invested in it and you really want to keep that name...

                                                                    1 Register PornNerdCash.com
                                                                    2 Redirect Elgancxiaswhateveryouwant.com to PornNerdCash.com
                                                                    3 Profit


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                                                                    • SCORE Ralph
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                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                      • 2090

                                                                      #184
                                                                      Interesting read. Since testing for the past 3 weeks, our results are somewhat better. 40SomethingMag went from 1:718 to 1:599; XLGirls went from 1:713 to 1:633; Scoreland went from 1:562 to 1:454. February isn't a great month to test change of options, specially with shorter month and V-day right smack in the middle, but even so, our results were not so bad.
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                                                                      • SCORE Ralph
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                                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                                        • 2090

                                                                        #185
                                                                        Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                                        You should just block the US then.
                                                                        Ding, ding, ding! Voice of reason, is reasonable ;) This option is obviously not meant to be used across the board.
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                                                                        • NewNick
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Mar 2009
                                                                          • 7229

                                                                          #186
                                                                          Originally posted by SCORE Ralph
                                                                          Interesting read. Since testing for the past 3 weeks, our results are somewhat better. 40SomethingMag went from 1:718 to 1:599; XLGirls went from 1:713 to 1:633; Scoreland went from 1:562 to 1:454. February isn't a great month to test change of options, specially with shorter month and V-day right smack in the middle, but even so, our results were not so bad.

                                                                          So as usual the advice is that some stuff works for some people and tanks for others - you just have to test it and see.

                                                                          Although you say your ratios improved, but not whether any revenue came in directly through Bitcoin.
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                                                                          • The Porn Nerd
                                                                            Living The Dream
                                                                            • Jun 2009
                                                                            • 19787

                                                                            #187
                                                                            Originally posted by DWB
                                                                            My ... You should seriously rethink that one.

                                                                            It may sound clever to you, but it looks like an incorrectly spelled name. Not to mention, you are expecting all of your affiliates to remember that bizarre spelling, which they won't. K.I.S.S.
                                                                            Let's wait and see the sites themselves then people can judge. I've shown the name to MANY "non-porn" people and they loved it.

                                                                            Affiliates will signup if they can make money.

                                                                            The affiliate program name however I am willing to change - it was done quickly to have something in place when I began this. But Eleganxia people can pronounce. LOL Think 'Elegance..ia. Not that hard and many Spanish-speakers know that word.

                                                                            Thanks for the feedback.

                                                                            Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                            I was personally a little stunned to see this. Why would you use a domain name that stands little to zero chance of people typing it in or typing the correct word in a search engine... much less, remembering it or even speaking it?
                                                                            People on this very board told me the same exact thing about:

                                                                            ErosExotica
                                                                            Fellucia Blow

                                                                            And both those sites have earned millions in revenue over the past 4 years. Type-ins? Through the roof. UNIQUENESS sells, even if it's a made-up word. In time, with branding, people "get it". So I hold my own council when it comes to naming things.

                                                                            PS: Affiliates will be promoting the 4 HD sites in the Network, NOT "Eleganxia" itself.
                                                                            Last edited by The Porn Nerd; 03-04-2014, 08:32 AM.
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                                                                            • TheSquealer
                                                                              Mayor of Thneedville
                                                                              • Oct 2004
                                                                              • 26174

                                                                              #188
                                                                              Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                                              Let's wait and see the sites themselves then people can judge. I've shown the name to MANY "non-porn" people and they loved it.

                                                                              Affiliates will signup if they can make money.

                                                                              The affiliate program name however I am willing to change - it was done quickly to have something in place when I began this. But Eleganxia people can pronounce. LOL Think 'Elegance..ia. Not that hard and many Spanish-speakers know that word.

                                                                              Thanks for the feedback.



                                                                              People on this very board told me the same exact thing about:

                                                                              ErosExotica
                                                                              Fellucia Blow

                                                                              And both those sites have earned millions in revenue over the past 4 years. Type-ins? Through the roof. UNIQUENESS sells, even if it's a made-up word. In time, with branding, people "get it". So I hold my own council when it comes to naming things.

                                                                              PS: Affiliates will be promoting the 4 HD sites in the Network, NOT "Eleganxia" itself.
                                                                              The difference is in doing things where one looks at little details and seeing that they either offer you another small advantage, or another small disadvantage.
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                                                                              Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

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                                                                              • The Porn Nerd
                                                                                Living The Dream
                                                                                • Jun 2009
                                                                                • 19787

                                                                                #189
                                                                                Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                                The difference is in doing things where one looks at little details and seeing that they either offer you another small advantage, or another small disadvantage.
                                                                                That's actually a main reason for doing this new network. It won't have the word 'porn' in it anywhere, and many affs who want to promote 'erotic'-style content won't do so if the word PORN is splattered everywhere.

                                                                                When the sites launch you will see the attention to detail and how this new operation is more 'focused' than Porn Nerd Network (which is going strong and will continue to grow).

                                                                                I still believe having something unique and differant works well in this over-saturated 'free porn' environment.
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                                                                                • SCORE Ralph
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                                  • 2090

                                                                                  #190
                                                                                  Originally posted by NewNick
                                                                                  So as usual the advice is that some stuff works for some people and tanks for others - you just have to test it and see.

                                                                                  Although you say your ratios improved, but not whether any revenue came in directly through Bitcoin.
                                                                                  I'll be more obvious next time. Yes, the extra sales came through BitCoin.

                                                                                  On a related note, newly added options can also drive users to use other less-used options particularly when the price differs. Ive seen this happen over and over again over the years.
                                                                                  Last edited by SCORE Ralph; 03-04-2014, 08:45 AM.
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                                                                                  • bean-aid
                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                    • Jun 2011
                                                                                    • 16493

                                                                                    #191
                                                                                    Originally posted by SCORE Ralph
                                                                                    I'll be more obvious next time. Yes, the extra sales came through BitCoin.

                                                                                    On a related note, newly added options can also drive users to use other less-used options particularly when the price differs. Ive seen this happen over and over again over the years.
                                                                                    Any idea of bitcoin targeted traffic? Did you market for additional traffic?

                                                                                    Meaning... is it at *all* possible your normal traffic shot to say 1:1500 but then targeted bit traffic brought the ratio back down to lower then average?

                                                                                    p.s. I looked at your pre-join page and it, to me, is set up very well. Nice and compact and easy to follow. Default to credit card join and text not too big.

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                                                                                    • DWB
                                                                                      Registered User
                                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                                      • 31779

                                                                                      #192
                                                                                      Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                                                      Let's wait and see the sites themselves then people can judge. I've shown the name to MANY "non-porn" people and they loved it.

                                                                                      Affiliates will signup if they can make money.

                                                                                      The affiliate program name however I am willing to change - it was done quickly to have something in place when I began this. But Eleganxia people can pronounce. LOL Think 'Elegance..ia. Not that hard and many Spanish-speakers know that word.
                                                                                      I am talking about the program name, not the pay sites in the network.

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                                                                                      • The Porn Nerd
                                                                                        Living The Dream
                                                                                        • Jun 2009
                                                                                        • 19787

                                                                                        #193
                                                                                        Originally posted by DWB
                                                                                        I am talking about the program name, not the pay sites in the network.
                                                                                        Well I will consider a new Affiliate Program name (if I can come up with one) since I never liked 'Eleganxia Bucks' to begin with. I threw it up there because I was working on six websites simultaneously. For now it's just a domain and a Header so easily changeable.

                                                                                        BTW: Proven affiliates are already promoting the 'SD' versions of these websites now and making bank so they will signup to promote the HD versions, too.
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                                                                                        • Paully
                                                                                          www.Max-Hardcore.com
                                                                                          • Nov 2005
                                                                                          • 1556

                                                                                          #194
                                                                                          Here ya go. Free of charge.

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                                                                                          • adultmobile
                                                                                            No, I am not banned
                                                                                            • Nov 2003
                                                                                            • 5345

                                                                                            #195
                                                                                            Originally posted by beaner
                                                                                            Any idea of bitcoin targeted traffic? Did you market for additional traffic?
                                                                                            Reddit, bitcointalk, coinbase and the such.

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                                                                                            • DamianJ
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • Jul 2006
                                                                                              • 15808

                                                                                              #196
                                                                                              Originally posted by Paully
                                                                                              Here ya go. Free of charge.
                                                                                              The sales points on that are so dull.

                                                                                              "50/50 revshare" - really? FUCK ME! that is amazingly unusual!
                                                                                              "weekly updates" - holy moly, that's a new idea!
                                                                                              "100% exclusive content" - I have just shat myself, no one EVER does that!!!
                                                                                              "high converting tours" - thank fuckery. i hate low converting tours!

                                                                                              you see my point. EVERY FUCKING PROGRAMME does that. there are many things I am sure are unique to the porn nerd network. Pick those things, not the things every single other programme does!

                                                                                              almost everyone does this, look at any programme's ads or home page. all the same. you could take a logo off one, put it on another and no one would know!

                                                                                              Alternatives:

                                                                                              Option One
                                                                                              "Whatever your niche, the porn nerd will convert it"
                                                                                              "Erotica, Busty, Vintage, Bollywood, MILFs and more"
                                                                                              "Click here to get started"

                                                                                              Option Two
                                                                                              "Talk Nerdy to me"
                                                                                              "The Porn Nerd wants your traffic"
                                                                                              "Click here to get nerdy"

                                                                                              Option Three
                                                                                              "Revenge of the Porn Nerds"
                                                                                              "We're taking over. Join us"
                                                                                              "Become a porn nerd today - click here"

                                                                                              etc

                                                                                              See my point? Do something DIFFERENT and your ad will get much higher response.

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                                                                                              • The Porn Nerd
                                                                                                Living The Dream
                                                                                                • Jun 2009
                                                                                                • 19787

                                                                                                #197
                                                                                                Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                                                                The sales points on that are so dull.

                                                                                                "50/50 revshare" - really? FUCK ME! that is amazingly unusual!
                                                                                                "weekly updates" - holy moly, that's a new idea!
                                                                                                "100% exclusive content" - I have just shat myself, no one EVER does that!!!
                                                                                                "high converting tours" - thank fuckery. i hate low converting tours!

                                                                                                you see my point. EVERY FUCKING PROGRAMME does that. there are many things I am sure are unique to the porn nerd network. Pick those things, not the things every single other programme does!

                                                                                                almost everyone does this, look at any programme's ads or home page. all the same. you could take a logo off one, put it on another and no one would know!

                                                                                                Alternatives:

                                                                                                Option One
                                                                                                "Whatever your niche, the porn nerd will convert it"
                                                                                                "Erotica, Busty, Vintage, Bollywood, MILFs and more"
                                                                                                "Click here to get started"

                                                                                                Option Two
                                                                                                "Talk Nerdy to me"
                                                                                                "The Porn Nerd wants your traffic"
                                                                                                "Click here to get nerdy"

                                                                                                Option Three
                                                                                                "Revenge of the Porn Nerds"
                                                                                                "We're taking over. Join us"
                                                                                                "Become a porn nerd today - click here"

                                                                                                etc

                                                                                                See my point? Do something DIFFERENT and your ad will get much higher response.
                                                                                                Thanks very much!

                                                                                                Yes I totally agree with you - that banner was a 'quickie' since I had to have something in place right away. So I need to come up with some new ads.

                                                                                                Now where do I send the PayPal for your consultants fee?
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                                                                                                • Relentless
                                                                                                  www.EngineFood.com
                                                                                                  • Aug 2006
                                                                                                  • 5697

                                                                                                  #198
                                                                                                  As a tag line, I'd go with something like: "Nerds Do Get Paid For Porn"


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                                                                                                  • DamianJ
                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                    • Jul 2006
                                                                                                    • 15808

                                                                                                    #199
                                                                                                    Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                                                                    Thanks very much!

                                                                                                    Yes I totally agree with you - that banner was a 'quickie' since I had to have something in place right away. So I need to come up with some new ads.

                                                                                                    Now where do I send the PayPal for your consultants fee?
                                                                                                    No fee at this stage, that was a freebie showing you the sort of thinking I do. If you want to talk about working together in the future, feel free to email me damianjennings gmail

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                                                                                                    • bean-aid
                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                      • Jun 2011
                                                                                                      • 16493

                                                                                                      #200
                                                                                                      Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                                                                      No fee at this stage, that was a freebie showing you the sort of thinking I do. If you want to talk about working together in the future, feel free to email me damianjennings gmail
                                                                                                      That's very exciting thinking!

                                                                                                      Can we get back to bitcoin discussion causing damage, or not causing damage?

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