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  • MaDalton
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    • Feb 2004
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    #1

    The difference between Germany and the Ukraine and why (some) Ukrainians are pissed

    The former German President



    his house



    his car



    he had to resign over potential corruption and is currently on trial - over the total sum of 700 Euro


    The Ukrainian President



    His house



    his cars




    The Ukrainian President officially never had a position that paid more than $2000 per month (at least before he became president, but that also pays not much more)

    and then some people wonder why the people get upset.

    what i dont get though: why are there still people defending him?
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    • CDSmith
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      • May 2001
      • 51460
      #2
      His house? Don't you mean "houses"?


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      ~ DIMTRI PILTI, a shop owner in the Crimea region of Ukraine, where the ousted president, Viktor F. Yanukovych, was building a seaside retreat.
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        • sandman!
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            • Rochard
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              • Dec 2001
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              #4
              Originally posted by MaDalton

              what i dont get though: why are there still people defending him?
              Who is defending him?
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                • MaDalton
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                  • Feb 2004
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                  #5
                  Originally posted by Rochard
                  Who is defending him?
                  the mainly russian population in crimea for example
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                    • Klen
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 32235
                      #6
                      German president had to resign because he demanded from reporter to hide story,not just because of those 700 euros.And people who still support Yanukovich is beacuse of ideological reason -they will support someone no matter what he do as long he carry their ideology.That is why many bad people from history are still praised despise their crimes.

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                            • ZiggiZiggiCrew
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                              • Dec 2012
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                              #8
                              Originally posted by MaDalton
                              the mainly russian population in crimea for example
                              are you watch Fox News and CNN only?
                              Russians in Crimea and East of Ukraine hate Yanyk too
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                                • mineistaken
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                                  • Apr 2007
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                                  #9
                                  What's up with "THE" Ukraine?

                                  It was "the Ukrainian SSR" and now is just Ukraine.
                                  Last edited by mineistaken; 02-26-2014, 09:10 AM.

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                                    • MaDalton
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                                      • Feb 2004
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                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by ZiggiZiggiCrew
                                      are you watch Fox News and CNN only?
                                      Russians in Crimea and East of Ukraine hate Yanyk too
                                      i watch neither

                                      the only thing i saw was how Berkut forces were greeted with flowers in Crimea, pro western demonstrators were attacked and people that were interviewed claimed that Yanukovich was still their president and they would fight for him and hope that Russia comes with forces to support them

                                      maybe a small minority, i'd sure hope so

                                      i would wish that everyone would relax and not have feelings taking over (as obvious also with some people here)
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                                        • mineistaken
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                                          • Apr 2007
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                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by MaDalton
                                          The Ukrainian President officially never had a position that paid more than $2000 per month (at least before he became president, but that also pays not much more)
                                          Did he own any companies? Many businessmen who own companies do not pay out salaries to themselves (because it is more expensive than other methods of cashing out).
                                          Not defending him by any means as he is 100% corrupt, just saying that salary statement is not necessary always in play.

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                                            • mineistaken
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                                              • Apr 2007
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                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by ZiggiZiggiCrew
                                              are you watch Fox News and CNN only?
                                              Russians in Crimea and East of Ukraine hate Yanyk too
                                              Interesting, but did you see that video where they beat up anti yanukovic speakers and waved Russian flags?

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                                                • ZiggiZiggiCrew
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                                                  • Dec 2012
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                                                    • Scott McD
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                                                      • Nov 2002
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                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by MaDalton
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                                                        • slavdogg
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                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by MaDalton

                                                          what i dont get though: why are there still people defending him?
                                                          it's not that they're defending him.
                                                          The russian speaking population is more scared of the ethnic ukrainians that are not much different than the Nazi's. And are simply picking the better of 2 evils.
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                                                            • MaDalton
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                                                              • Feb 2004
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                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by slavdogg
                                                              it's not that they're defending him.
                                                              The russian speaking population is more scared of the ethnic ukrainians that are not much different than the Nazi's. And are simply picking the better of 2 evils.
                                                              hm... i know quite a few Ukrainians here and none of them comes across as a Nazi

                                                              but i know they exist - just like they exist in Russia, Germany, France, UK and many other countries

                                                              but i get your point - that's why quick REAL democratic elections would be the best (imho)
                                                              Last edited by MaDalton; 02-26-2014, 09:53 AM.
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