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  • Nickatilynx
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2002
    • 819
    #401
    Originally posted by Fat Panda
    RUC was caught RED HANDED FUCKING AFFILIATES

    not to mention you can watch ALL their porn for free

    any affiliate promoting them is a MORON


    yeah all 11 or 12 of them like was explained ahahahaha

    seriously????? You really are the Moron. Anyone that actually can send proper joins to a program knows that.

    You fucking morons are suicidal. Thanks to this thread, another program has gone private. LOL You fucking moronic cunts are committing ritual suicide!!!!

    Get it? You minnows are out!!! LOL

    faketaxi is great converting content and everyone with half a brain knows that.

    Whales KNOW he did not shave.

    Whales KNOW its now a private program.

    RUC only wants whales now. The minnows whine too much when they lose 39 cents through a processing glitch.You do know that you guys are actually a joke don't you?

    So busy lobbing stones from your double wides as the players in their Bentley's , Porsche's and ferarris go by. LOL

    Hobbyiests? Get a real job. Your time in adult is up.

    You must be "this big" to ride.

    ahahahahahahahaha

    u guys make me laugh.
    Skype - Nickatilynx

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      • lucas131
        ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
        • Aug 2004
        • 11475
        #402
        Originally posted by Nickatilynx
        The minnows whine too much when they lose 39 cents through a processing glitch.You do know that you guys are actually a joke don't you?
        so because i wanted to know why my stats are fucked up, and i did test, and i have found that something is not working as it have to, i am whining here? you sire is also a bit out of reality dont you? maybe better if you go fish with your friend robert and leave other hard working guys trying their best

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          • Magnetron
            Lord High Groundhog
            • Jun 2013
            • 1841
            #403
            Originally posted by Jel
            I have, obviously it did, and no, 10 x traffic does not = 10 x sales, never has, never will
            Was it a quality site? Did you run 10x the traffic through it? Was the additional traffic of the same quality?

            Brokered traffic doesn't come close to quality and if the site is poorly designed, these are factors that don't bode well in the results.
            .
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            While your neighbors were busy killing off everyone in the neighborhood
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              • iSpyCams
                Amateur Gynecologist
                • May 2009
                • 4436
                #404
                So, TL;DR:

                Shaving is fine, Affiliates are not worth the money they earn, Dropping the ball is on sales tracking is a normal way of doing business, Whistle blowing gets you banned, If you are not a whale then you don't matter.

                It's heartwarming to see the outpouring of support for cheaters and their apologists.

                You fuckers think you are special and ballers cause you can put up some shitty content and add a biller or two to it, guess what, you're not. It doesn't take much talent or even cash to put together a paysite and 100% revshare is better than anything you can offer.
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                  • Nickatilynx
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2002
                    • 819
                    #405
                    Originally posted by lucas131
                    so because i wanted to know why my stats are fucked up, and i did test, and i have found that something is not working as it have to, i am whining here? you sire is also a bit out of reality dont you? maybe better if you go fish with your friend robert and leave other hard working guys trying their best
                    no...you made several threads about it instead of talking via email.

                    Like a pro would do. Half this thread is "why did you run to the board straight away like alittle bitch instead of behaving correctly. If u had, when he saw the error you found he may have credited you more than you will ever earn a month as a courtesy.

                    But no...being a troll is more rewarding to you, like it is other hobbyiests LOL

                    RUC explained what happened.

                    RUC then posted stats and averaged them over a period to show worse way an affiliate through the processing glitch would have lost approximately fuck and all. LOL

                    And what have you achieved?

                    You have cost him fuck all.

                    But you have now closed another program and made it private only.

                    You, you twat is what is killing the affiliate model.

                    No one can be assed with whiney little shits with 3 joins a month.

                    ahahahahahahahah you fucking self destructive morons...
                    Last edited by Nickatilynx; 04-16-2014, 09:31 AM.
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                      • The Porn Nerd
                        Living The Dream
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 19784
                        #406
                        This is for all Program Owners and Whale Affiliates with this attitude:

                        "It's only 0.00003% of sales so who the fuck cares? Fuck off I'm rich and I only play with rich BROS."

                        It doesn't matter if it's ONE SALE A YEAR. It doesn't matter if an affiliate sends 1k hits or 100k hits. This is about ATTITUDE and PROFESSIONALISM and how a Program runs their business.

                        Not giving a fuck because an affiliate isn't a 'whale' makes the Program look like cunts and BROS.

                        Perhaps, in the end, RUC and any other Program with this attitude will be just fine doing business with the BRO club circle jerk. But in the end this Industry will collapse upon itself and not even the BROS will be able to support each other. Many other industries have tried this approach - big whales only, fuck the little guys - and those industries have suffered, withered and died. Short-term greed and a "We're too big to play with you" attitude has been the demise of many egotistical, delusional fucks.

                        Treat people - affiliates are PEOPLE let's remember - with respect and be professional, even in the face of frustration and exasperation, and THEN you can be taken seriously as a business person. until then, all this BROspeak just proves to me that there is now a real divide between 'mega-players' and the rest of us. The irony here is that sooner or later even the BROS will be hurting and looking for affiliates one day. Everything is cyclical.

                        I just hope affiliates remember who treated them with respect and who treated them like fools when that day comes.
                        Last edited by The Porn Nerd; 04-16-2014, 09:35 AM.
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                          • dantheman
                            OG
                            • May 2002
                            • 3308
                            #407
                            I just finished the thread, not much to say since I don't have a dog(or traffic)in the fight.

                            But I do want to say hey to Nick, oldjeff and 12clicks, just good to see some folks around that I have talk to or interacted with from days gone bye.
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                              • Jel
                                Confirmed User
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 6904
                                #408
                                Originally posted by Magnetron
                                Was it a quality site? Did you run 10x the traffic through it? Was the additional traffic of the same quality?

                                Brokered traffic doesn't come close to quality and if the site is poorly designed, these are factors that don't bode well in the results.
                                'a'? 'it'? yes they were, yes they got more quality SE traffic - not all kephrases are buying keyphrases though, even when the words 'free' 'torrent' etc are nowhere to be seen.

                                If you are #1 for 'keyphrase 1' you aren't going to grow your traffic for that keyphrase (as an example). You then go and get #1 for 'keyphrase 2' and 'keyphrase 3'. Your traffic just more than doubled, quality SE traffic, but hmm, your sales didn't more than double, in fact they only jumped by an extra 50 - 60%. Rinse/repeat x 10.

                                Or would that mean there was a shave? Hobbyists, man..

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                                  • Nickatilynx
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Feb 2002
                                    • 819
                                    #409
                                    Originally posted by pompousjohn
                                    So, TL;DR:

                                    Shaving is fine, Affiliates are not worth the money they earn, Dropping the ball is on sales tracking is a normal way of doing business, Whistle blowing gets you banned, If you are not a whale then you don't matter.

                                    It's heartwarming to see the outpouring of support for cheaters and their apologists.

                                    You fuckers think you are special and ballers cause you can put up some shitty content and add a biller or two to it, guess what, you're not. It doesn't take much talent or even cash to put together a paysite and 100% revshare is better than anything you can offer.
                                    Shaving involves cheating.

                                    Any moron can see not only was it not RUC's intention to cheat, it would make absolutely no sense to!!!

                                    No fucking programs shaves anymore, they want to keep their affiliates.

                                    It was a processing glitch.

                                    RUC has shown that the result of this processing glitch would have cost his affiliates approximately fuck all. LOL

                                    This is a non event thread...

                                    A non event thread that has caused the program owner to close it to the public.

                                    Jesus you guys are dumb...

                                    I bet there is a few other program owners now considering closing their programs to the public.

                                    And this is why the affiliate model is dying...LOL!!!
                                    Skype - Nickatilynx

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                                      • Ruseful
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Apr 2014
                                        • 197
                                        #410
                                        Originally posted by lucas131
                                        this file is just a redirect. but if you download the file with download manager, you can see the source code, and in the source code, there is this



                                        there is some nats code, that is hard coded on the file/page, and the nats code is not the one i used to visit the site. it is nats code of someone or something else, not mine or not the one i came to the site with ... cant explain it better cause of my engrish ... maybe its all good, just some standart code and it dont affect the affiliates nats codes, just, everyone have to go through the page and through that nats code on that page ... sorry, cant explain better in english once again, maybe its all good, i just will be more happy to know and expand my knowledge about nats

                                        btw, two other guys, sitting on another places, have the same nats code hardcoded on the join.php file, so its nothing variable if i am right ...
                                        Another post that you are insinuating shaving or fraud on my part, classy.

                                        In response to your recent accusations:

                                        We run a more complicated system than a basic NATS install. But keep grabbing at straws Lucas131, as you are now making yourself look foolish.

                                        We use what's called an strack. The join page does a detection of a cookie to see if the incoming link is from the CCBill affiliate program or the NATS program. A type in gets a default NATS link for a type in, if it's an affiliate link the affiliate is credited.

                                        There is nothing "hard coded".

                                        Just to clarify a little more, each site in NATS has a "default join code". It also has a default FHG code that we put in all galleries so if you go to a gallery you'd see that as well and probably bitch to GFY. However, NATS over rides that with any incoming affiliate code. If it didn't, no affiliates would be getting any credit, ever. Obviously that's not the case. We use what NATS refers to as an s-track.

                                        This default system also takes over if any CCBill links come in as improperly formatted because NATS takes over by default. That means one could use a bad ccbill link and they would end up on Vendo because they'd be in NATS.

                                        If you click on a good ccbill link, you will go to the CCBill cascade. It is impossible to get to Vendo from the CCBill cascade. However, if you truncate the link or do something to screw it up, you will default to NATS which will use Vendo.

                                        Clear?
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                                          • lucas131
                                            ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
                                            • Aug 2004
                                            • 11475
                                            #411
                                            Originally posted by Ruseful
                                            Clear?
                                            yes this is clear already, and i am happy for the help and informations i got in this thread btw, again, what happenned around 5th?

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                                              • Nickatilynx
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Feb 2002
                                                • 819
                                                #412
                                                Originally posted by dantheman
                                                I just finished the thread, not much to say since I don't have a dog(or traffic)in the fight.

                                                But I do want to say hey to Nick, oldjeff and 12clicks, just good to see some folks around that I have talk to or interacted with from days gone bye.
                                                Hi mate , long time. Glad to see you about

                                                LOL..800ish posts here...I got dragged into a piss because of the idiocy of it LOL

                                                "RUC- Sorry processing glitch..average traffic lost to my 12 affiliates was a total of maybe $3...so sorry I cheated you all for $3"

                                                And now..minnows can not send traffic to RUC LOL

                                                the irony...another program closes , through whingers.
                                                Skype - Nickatilynx

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                                                  • lucas131
                                                    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
                                                    • Aug 2004
                                                    • 11475
                                                    #413
                                                    Originally posted by Ruseful
                                                    If you click on a good ccbill link, you will go to the CCBill cascade. It is impossible to get to Vendo from the CCBill cascade. However, if you truncate the link or do something to screw it up, you will default to NATS which will use Vendo.
                                                    btw, i have clicked the right ccbill link, it is counting hits, just not sales, because sales have been handled by other processor. the link was going first to vendo, then tried few days again and it was ccbill, then few days again it was epoch ... still the same link ... so, not sure what happenned, but link was still the same, just your processors have been jumping

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                                                      • 12clicks
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                        • 19813
                                                        #414
                                                        Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                        This is for all Program Owners and Whale Affiliates with this attitude:

                                                        "It's only 0.00003% of sales so who the fuck cares? Fuck off I'm rich and I only play with rich BROS."

                                                        It doesn't matter if it's ONE SALE A YEAR. It doesn't matter if an affiliate sends 1k hits or 100k hits. This is about ATTITUDE and PROFESSIONALISM and how a Program runs their business.

                                                        Not giving a fuck because an affiliate isn't a 'whale' makes the Program look like cunts and BROS.

                                                        Perhaps, in the end, RUC and any other Program with this attitude will be just fine doing business with the BRO club circle jerk. But in the end this Industry will collapse upon itself and not even the BROS will be able to support each other. Many other industries have tried this approach - big whales only, fuck the little guys - and those industries have suffered, withered and died. Short-term greed and a "We're too big to play with you" attitude has been the demise of many egotistical, delusional fucks.

                                                        Treat people - affiliates are PEOPLE let's remember - with respect and be professional, even in the face of frustration and exasperation, and THEN you can be taken seriously as a business person. until then, all this BROspeak just proves to me that there is now a real divide between 'mega-players' and the rest of us. The irony here is that sooner or later even the BROS will be hurting and looking for affiliates one day. Everything is cyclical.

                                                        I just hope affiliates remember who treated them with respect and who treated them like fools when that day comes.
                                                        please, you jumped up nobody.........There are a million good ways to handle this besides seeing a problem and screaming SHAVE. Now I understand that you programs at the very bottom will use threads like this to suck up to the affiliate trash that start these threads but at the end of the day, calling your betters "BROS" simply makes you part of the rabble. When the rabble turns on you, you will have already lost the intelligent allies that might have pointed out where the rabble is wrong about you long ago with your childish antics in THIS thread.
                                                        But what do I know? I've lost more money to bad processors than you'll ever earn if you hang on here until you die.
                                                        I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                          • dehash
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • May 2011
                                                            • 889
                                                            #415
                                                            Originally posted by Nickatilynx
                                                            no...you made several threads about it instead of talking via email.

                                                            Like a pro would do. Half this thread is "why did you run to the board straight away like alittle bitch instead of behaving correctly. If u had, when he saw the error you found he may have credited you more than you will ever earn a month as a courtesy.

                                                            But no...being a troll is more rewarding to you, like it is other hobbyiests LOL

                                                            RUC explained what happened.

                                                            RUC then posted stats and averaged them over a period to show worse way an affiliate through the processing glitch would have lost approximately fuck and all. LOL

                                                            And what have you achieved?

                                                            You have cost him fuck all.

                                                            But you have now closed another program and made it private only.

                                                            You, you twat is what is killing the affiliate model.

                                                            No one can be assed with whiney little shits with 3 joins a month.

                                                            ahahahahahahahah you fucking self destructive morons...
                                                            Another dumb moron.
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                                                              • mopek1
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jun 2004
                                                                • 3191
                                                                #416
                                                                Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                calling your betters "BROS" simply
                                                                An example of the snobbishness he is talking about.

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                                                                  • Nickatilynx
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Feb 2002
                                                                    • 819
                                                                    #417
                                                                    Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                    I've lost more money to bad processors than you'll ever earn if you hang on here until you die.
                                                                    Amen

                                                                    Skype - Nickatilynx

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                                                                      • mopek1
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Jun 2004
                                                                        • 3191
                                                                        #418
                                                                        Originally posted by Ruseful
                                                                        ... Lucas131, as you are now making yourself look foolish.
                                                                        So are you to be fair.

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                                                                          • signupdamnit
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Aug 2007
                                                                            • 6697
                                                                            #419
                                                                            Thanks for the latest test on kink.com, Lucas. Like I said it's just the same people for the most part giving you shit. They do it in almost every topic like this one.

                                                                            Originally posted by klinton
                                                                            thats great... however their ratios are terrible in their niche... with such amazing content they should have 5 x times better ratios...
                                                                            Agreed. For many years Kink/cybernet/kinkydollars was my number one sponsor. It started falling apart around 2010 or 2011. There is an interview with the owner where he admits revenue declined for the first time in 2011. Personally I think it was because they took the tube strategy *their stuff was all over the tubes) and also they got hit by the same shit the rest of us got hit with.

                                                                            You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                                                                              • lucas131
                                                                                ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
                                                                                • Aug 2004
                                                                                • 11475
                                                                                #420
                                                                                Originally posted by Nickatilynx
                                                                                Amen

                                                                                are you also part of his pimpin projects like this one

                                                                                http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1101504

                                                                                ?

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                                                                                  • Nickatilynx
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Feb 2002
                                                                                    • 819
                                                                                    #421
                                                                                    Originally posted by dehash
                                                                                    Another dumb moron.
                                                                                    Fuck off, Twat.

                                                                                    Your betters are talking.

                                                                                    I was making millions before you knew of the web and will be after you have finally realised your job at target is a better life choice.

                                                                                    How's that for snobbishness , Mopek?

                                                                                    Its not snobbishness.

                                                                                    Its the difference in attitude between veteran professionals and 2 join a month beer money hobbyists.
                                                                                    Last edited by Nickatilynx; 04-16-2014, 09:58 AM.
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                                                                                      • The Porn Nerd
                                                                                        Living The Dream
                                                                                        • Jun 2009
                                                                                        • 19784
                                                                                        #422
                                                                                        Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                        please, you jumped up nobody.........There are a million good ways to handle this besides seeing a problem and screaming SHAVE. Now I understand that you programs at the very bottom will use threads like this to suck up to the affiliate trash that start these threads but at the end of the day, calling your betters "BROS" simply makes you part of the rabble. When the rabble turns on you, you will have already lost the intelligent allies that might have pointed out where the rabble is wrong about you long ago with your childish antics in THIS thread.
                                                                                        But what do I know? I've lost more money to bad processors than you'll ever earn if you hang on here until you die.
                                                                                        Thanks for proving my point. I am NOT "sucking up" to affiliates. I treat EVERY affiliate with the same level of respect. I don't go "Get away from me kid ya bother me" if I see they only send a join a year.

                                                                                        But basically you are saying I should choose to side with people who treat other people as inferior instead of treating everyone with respect? Yeah no thanks.

                                                                                        PS: If you have made millions in Adult then why do "my betters" act so defensive, snobbish, like superior cunts and, well, overcompensating children? You would think a successful person would have a sunnier attitude than many of the 'successful' people in this thread. Huh.
                                                                                        Last edited by The Porn Nerd; 04-16-2014, 10:01 AM.
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                                                                                          • Ruseful
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Apr 2014
                                                                                            • 197
                                                                                            #423
                                                                                            Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                                                            This is for all Program Owners and Whale Affiliates with this attitude:

                                                                                            "It's only 0.00003% of sales so who the fuck cares? Fuck off I'm rich and I only play with rich BROS."

                                                                                            It doesn't matter if it's ONE SALE A YEAR. It doesn't matter if an affiliate sends 1k hits or 100k hits. This is about ATTITUDE and PROFESSIONALISM and how a Program runs their business.

                                                                                            Not giving a fuck because an affiliate isn't a 'whale' makes the Program look like cunts and BROS.

                                                                                            Perhaps, in the end, RUC and any other Program with this attitude will be just fine doing business with the BRO club circle jerk. But in the end this Industry will collapse upon itself and not even the BROS will be able to support each other. Many other industries have tried this approach - big whales only, fuck the little guys - and those industries have suffered, withered and died. Short-term greed and a "We're too big to play with you" attitude has been the demise of many egotistical, delusional fucks.

                                                                                            Treat people - affiliates are PEOPLE let's remember - with respect and be professional, even in the face of frustration and exasperation, and THEN you can be taken seriously as a business person. until then, all this BROspeak just proves to me that there is now a real divide between 'mega-players' and the rest of us. The irony here is that sooner or later even the BROS will be hurting and looking for affiliates one day. Everything is cyclical.

                                                                                            I just hope affiliates remember who treated them with respect and who treated them like fools when that day comes.
                                                                                            Nice pitch to pick up all the smaller affiliates when the industry comes crashing down "again".

                                                                                            Believe it or not, the industry is evolving again, tubes are positioning (bracing) themselves, major companies are manoeuvring into positions. The Bro's you speak of, its those bro's in the bro's club that are working together, along with the whales, on platforms you could only dream of, and platforms that are owned and operated BY THE INDUSTRY, not an individual. I can only assume that you do not want to be part of such a platform and stick with the small affiliates. Its fine, I didn't have you down for an invite anyway ;)
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                                                                                              • iSpyCams
                                                                                                Amateur Gynecologist
                                                                                                • May 2009
                                                                                                • 4436
                                                                                                #424
                                                                                                Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                please, you jumped up nobody.........There are a million good ways to handle this besides seeing a problem and screaming SHAVE. Now I understand that you programs at the very bottom will use threads like this to suck up to the affiliate trash that start these threads but at the end of the day, calling your betters "BROS" simply makes you part of the rabble. When the rabble turns on you, you will have already lost the intelligent allies that might have pointed out where the rabble is wrong about you long ago with your childish antics in THIS thread.
                                                                                                But what do I know? I've lost more money to bad processors than you'll ever earn if you hang on here until you die.
                                                                                                Affiliates who get shaved or "become victims of processing glitches" are NOT the ones who need to watch their attitudes or be mindful of procedure. They are not the ones who fucked up.
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                                                                                                  • Ruseful
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Apr 2014
                                                                                                    • 197
                                                                                                    #425
                                                                                                    Originally posted by lucas131
                                                                                                    yes this is clear already, and i am happy for the help and informations i got in this thread btw, again, what happenned around 5th?
                                                                                                    We switched to vendo for a 2-3 day period and then switched back. Then when we switched again, after this date, thats when you found the CCBill issue, of which we thanked you.
                                                                                                    http://www.ReallyUsefulCash.com

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                                                                                                      • Nickatilynx
                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                        • Feb 2002
                                                                                                        • 819
                                                                                                        #426
                                                                                                        Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                                                                        Thanks for proving my point. I am NOT "sucking up" to affiliates. I treat EVERY affiliate with the same level of respect. I don't go "Get away from me kid ya bother me" if I see they only send a join a year.
                                                                                                        Oh you will....... ;)

                                                                                                        once you really get the affiliate business.

                                                                                                        You do know whales that can send you 100 joins in 12 hours read these threads? Prolly thought , nice sites. Good hardworking guy and a tryer.

                                                                                                        That's what I thought of you as a lurker.

                                                                                                        Now...well..I hope you one day become a grizzled old vet

                                                                                                        and lucas..kiss my ass ;)
                                                                                                        Skype - Nickatilynx

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                                                                                                          • Ruseful
                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                            • Apr 2014
                                                                                                            • 197
                                                                                                            #427
                                                                                                            Originally posted by lucas131
                                                                                                            btw, i have clicked the right ccbill link, it is counting hits, just not sales, because sales have been handled by other processor. the link was going first to vendo, then tried few days again and it was ccbill, then few days again it was epoch ... still the same link ... so, not sure what happenned, but link was still the same, just your processors have been jumping
                                                                                                            yes, because we have been testing billers. Vendo primary, then Epoch primary then Vendo Primary
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                                                                                                              • 12clicks
                                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                • 19813
                                                                                                                #428
                                                                                                                Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                                                                                PS: If you have made millions in Adult then why do "my betters" act so defensive, snobbish, like superior cunts and, well, overcompensating children? You would think a successful person would have a sunnier attitude than many of the 'successful' people in this thread. Huh.
                                                                                                                is that how it looks from the bottom?
                                                                                                                No son, I'm simply playing with the irrelevant while I wait for a con call. Perhaps you should attend a show and see how much smiling your betters actually do.
                                                                                                                extrapolating how we treat industry trash to how we live our lives would be inaccurate.

                                                                                                                but enjoy your hunt for noobs. someone should want them.
                                                                                                                I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                  • Nickatilynx
                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                    • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                    • 819
                                                                                                                    #429
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Ruseful
                                                                                                                    Nice pitch to pick up all the smaller affiliates when the industry comes crashing down "again".

                                                                                                                    Believe it or not, the industry is evolving again, tubes are positioning (bracing) themselves, major companies are manoeuvring into positions. The Bro's you speak of, its those bro's in the bro's club that are working together, along with the whales, on platforms you could only dream of, and platforms that are owned and operated BY THE INDUSTRY, not an individual. I can only assume that you do not want to be part of such a platform and stick with the small affiliates. Its fine, I didn't have you down for an invite anyway ;)
                                                                                                                    people should bookmark this post....
                                                                                                                    Skype - Nickatilynx

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                                                                                                                      • lucas131
                                                                                                                        ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
                                                                                                                        • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                        • 11475
                                                                                                                        #430
                                                                                                                        it will be funny to see 12clicks and other bros starting their business few years ago two weeks and back to mc donalds ...

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                                                                                                                          • 12clicks
                                                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                            • 19813
                                                                                                                            #431
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by pompousjohn
                                                                                                                            Affiliates who get shaved or "become victims of processing glitches" are NOT the ones who need to watch their attitudes or be mindful of procedure. They are not the ones who fucked up.
                                                                                                                            sorry chump, thats simply not the case.
                                                                                                                            when industry trash tries to combine shaving with glitches, the industry trash identifies themselves as people to not do business with.
                                                                                                                            If a program loses trash, it doesn't matter, if the trash lose the programs, its a problem for them.


                                                                                                                            but you keep thinking you've got it right.
                                                                                                                            I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                              • 12clicks
                                                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                • 19813
                                                                                                                                #432
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by lucas131
                                                                                                                                it will be funny to see 12clicks and other bros starting their business few years ago two weeks and back to mc donalds ...
                                                                                                                                dear bottom runger, almost ALL of my contemporaries washed out of this business. trust me, child, I'm still on top for a reason and it ain't because I got here early.
                                                                                                                                I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                                  • Magnetron
                                                                                                                                    Lord High Groundhog
                                                                                                                                    • Jun 2013
                                                                                                                                    • 1841
                                                                                                                                    #433
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Jel
                                                                                                                                    'a'? 'it'? yes they were, yes they got more quality SE traffic - not all kephrases are buying keyphrases though, even when the words 'free' 'torrent' etc are nowhere to be seen.

                                                                                                                                    If you are #1 for 'keyphrase 1' you aren't going to grow your traffic for that keyphrase (as an example). You then go and get #1 for 'keyphrase 2' and 'keyphrase 3'. Your traffic just more than doubled, quality SE traffic, but hmm, your sales didn't more than double, in fact they only jumped by an extra 50 - 60%. Rinse/repeat x 10.

                                                                                                                                    Or would that mean there was a shave? Hobbyists, man..
                                                                                                                                    Sure, in a scenario as rigid as this .... where you don't have traffic coming in from multiple sources - SE#1, SE#2, SE#3, toplists, hardlink swaps, trades, forums, pinboards and other SN sites like FB, Twitter, Pinterest, etc.

                                                                                                                                    Man..
                                                                                                                                    .
                                                                                                                                    Approach the mirrored reflection saying his name three times : "Butcher .... Butcher .... Butcher ....."
                                                                                                                                    and wait to see if this Bogeyman urban legend manifests in the background, looming over shoulder
                                                                                                                                    While your neighbors were busy killing off everyone in the neighborhood
                                                                                                                                    with your own butcher knife in hand concealed behind your back
                                                                                                                                    you stood for
                                                                                                                                    ever before the window saying
                                                                                                                                    nothing

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                                                                                                                                      • lucas131
                                                                                                                                        ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
                                                                                                                                        • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                        • 11475
                                                                                                                                        #434
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                                                        dear bottom runger, almost ALL of my contemporaries washed out of this business. trust me, child, I'm still on top for a reason and it ain't because I got here early.
                                                                                                                                        what you do i dont call business, so not sure what you are talking about

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                                                                                                                                          • looky_lou
                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                            • 1771
                                                                                                                                            #435
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                                                                                                            This is for all Program Owners and Whale Affiliates with this attitude:

                                                                                                                                            "It's only 0.00003% of sales so who the fuck cares? Fuck off I'm rich and I only play with rich BROS."

                                                                                                                                            It doesn't matter if it's ONE SALE A YEAR. It doesn't matter if an affiliate sends 1k hits or 100k hits. This is about ATTITUDE and PROFESSIONALISM and how a Program runs their business.

                                                                                                                                            Not giving a fuck because an affiliate isn't a 'whale' makes the Program look like cunts and BROS.

                                                                                                                                            Perhaps, in the end, RUC and any other Program with this attitude will be just fine doing business with the BRO club circle jerk. But in the end this Industry will collapse upon itself and not even the BROS will be able to support each other. Many other industries have tried this approach - big whales only, fuck the little guys - and those industries have suffered, withered and died. Short-term greed and a "We're too big to play with you" attitude has been the demise of many egotistical, delusional fucks.

                                                                                                                                            Treat people - affiliates are PEOPLE let's remember - with respect and be professional, even in the face of frustration and exasperation, and THEN you can be taken seriously as a business person. until then, all this BROspeak just proves to me that there is now a real divide between 'mega-players' and the rest of us. The irony here is that sooner or later even the BROS will be hurting and looking for affiliates one day. Everything is cyclical.

                                                                                                                                            I just hope affiliates remember who treated them with respect and who treated them like fools when that day comes.
                                                                                                                                            Bravo! Some of those Bros are really showing their true colors in this thread.

                                                                                                                                            Why should the Bros be concerned with programs going "private" and closing to the public? Small affiliates are not needed anyway and generally just a pain in the ass, right?

                                                                                                                                            It was just a small error that only effected a few affiliates for a few days, right? But what if it was not caught and left that way for the next year? That might buy a nice round of drinks for the Bros at a show.
                                                                                                                                            PUSSY - PUSSY - PUSSY!
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                                                                                                                                              • 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                • 19813
                                                                                                                                                #436
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by mopek1
                                                                                                                                                An example of the snobbishness he is talking about.
                                                                                                                                                dear fool. This is one of the only businesses you can directly communicate with people who have succeeded in your business. Most of us started at the very bottom of this biz and rose to the top.
                                                                                                                                                Instead of trying to pick our brains, you spend your day calling us thieves.
                                                                                                                                                its why you'll never be anything more than the bottom.
                                                                                                                                                wasted opportunity.
                                                                                                                                                I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                                                  • signupdamnit
                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                    • Aug 2007
                                                                                                                                                    • 6697
                                                                                                                                                    #437
                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by lucas131
                                                                                                                                                    btw, anyone knows how to best test cams? i mean, if i signup as member, how much do i must spend to make pps? and will all revs be credited to me asap? and those ppl, how that works? really interested in this ... thank you for in advance for any info!
                                                                                                                                                    As someone said check the terms of the program to be sure there aren't thresholds but generally probably revshare is the easiest one to test and less likely to get the sponsor claiming you committed "fraud" against them or that the sale never showed up because their automated anti-fraud system flagged it as "fraud" (this is a favorite tactic and claim of sponsors who get caught). I would probably do the revshare signup, load up some tokens or $20 on the account and then give it 24-48 hours to see if you have credit by then.

                                                                                                                                                    Btw I'm in the US so if you have a tricky sponsor you think might be looking for your test signups feel free to PM me a revshare (has to be revshare so they can't call it fraud) link to use and I'll try to signup and send you a screenshot or video of me doing it along with the date or something so we can see if they credit you. As long as it's under $40 I'm not even worried about getting a refund or anything. It's the least I can do to help the effort.

                                                                                                                                                    You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                                                                                                                                                      • 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                        • 19813
                                                                                                                                                        #438
                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by lucas131
                                                                                                                                                        what you do i dont call business, so not sure what you are talking about
                                                                                                                                                        I figured that long ago.
                                                                                                                                                        I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                                                          • lucas131
                                                                                                                                                            ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
                                                                                                                                                            • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                            • 11475
                                                                                                                                                            #439
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                            I figured that long ago.
                                                                                                                                                            and you call business, trying to sell non unique content on sites like from 2005, and trying to bill members with xsales? there is enough complaints on the internet, do you know about them?

                                                                                                                                                            I subscribed to this site months ago. One of my biggest online mistakes. They make it impossible to cancel. I tried using their cancel membership forms, sent numerous e-mails to no avail. I am still being billed 34.62USD a month.

                                                                                                                                                            The only option I have left is to cancel my credit card.

                                                                                                                                                            12xmovies and siaccess are a big ripoff.
                                                                                                                                                            I got a charge for 39.62 from MERCHSALE.ORG on 07/25...I do NOT recall pruchasing ANYTHING from them...I wish to complaing and to write to the Better Business Bureau regarding them.
                                                                                                                                                            Similar complaint. Similar amount, in this case $35.62

                                                                                                                                                            merchsale.org may be a payment processor, taking billing information from their customer companies and processing it into ACH or other electronic payment forms to charge consumer accounts.

                                                                                                                                                            The company originating the charge in the complaint above, "12xmovies.com", may be running some sort of "membership" scam, duping consumers to sign up, resulting in monthly charges, then putting barriers in the way of cancelling. That also says something about their payment processor, to take that type of business.

                                                                                                                                                            Note that the charge in the complaint below is also similar: $34.62
                                                                                                                                                            and so ... so, it is really not business, and if yes, it is scammy business

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                                                                                                                                                              • lucas131
                                                                                                                                                                ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
                                                                                                                                                                • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                                • 11475
                                                                                                                                                                #440
                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by signupdamnit
                                                                                                                                                                As someone said check the terms of the program to be sure there aren't thresholds but generally probably revshare is the easiest one to test and less likely to get the sponsor claiming you committed "fraud" against them or that the sale never showed up because their automated anti-fraud system flagged it as "fraud" (this is a favorite tactic and claim of sponsors who get caught). I would probably do the revshare signup, load up some tokens or $20 on the account and then give it 24-48 hours to see if you have credit by then.

                                                                                                                                                                Btw I'm in the US so if you have a tricky sponsor you think might be looking for your test signups feel free to PM me a revshare (has to be revshare so they can't call it fraud) link to use and I'll try to signup and send you a screenshot or video of me doing it along with the date or something so we can see if they credit you. As long as it's under $40 I'm not even worried about getting a refund or anything. It's the least I can do to help the effort.
                                                                                                                                                                thank you for the help, will keep you in my contact book

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                                                                                                                                                                  • looky_lou
                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                                    • 1771
                                                                                                                                                                    #441
                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by signupdamnit
                                                                                                                                                                    As someone said check the terms of the program to be sure there aren't thresholds but generally probably revshare is the easiest one to test and less likely to get the sponsor claiming you committed "fraud" against them or that the sale never showed up because their automated anti-fraud system flagged it as "fraud" (this is a favorite tactic and claim of sponsors who get caught). I would probably do the revshare signup, load up some tokens or $20 on the account and then give it 24-48 hours to see if you have credit by then.

                                                                                                                                                                    Btw I'm in the US so if you have a tricky sponsor you think might be looking for your test signups feel free to PM me a revshare (has to be revshare so they can't call it fraud) link to use and I'll try to signup and send you a screenshot or video of me doing it along with the date or something so we can see if they credit you. As long as it's under $40 I'm not even worried about getting a refund or anything. It's the least I can do to help the effort.
                                                                                                                                                                    I am also willing to run some tests in exchange for doing some tests for me. I am also in the US. Just let me know.
                                                                                                                                                                    PUSSY - PUSSY - PUSSY!
                                                                                                                                                                    Wet & Puffy - Wet & Pissy - We Like To Suck
                                                                                                                                                                    Puffy Cash

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                                                                                                                                                                      • OldJeff
                                                                                                                                                                        Big Fucking hahahaha
                                                                                                                                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                                                        • 2489
                                                                                                                                                                        #442
                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by lucas131
                                                                                                                                                                        thank you for the help, will keep you in my contact book
                                                                                                                                                                        That contact and 4 bucks will get you a coffee at Starbucks, meanwhile the people you have alienated in this thread could have gotten you a new Bentley.

                                                                                                                                                                        The BRO(ke) club for the big win of staying in the kiddie pool
                                                                                                                                                                        "As pornographers we must act responsibly! ;))"- Nickatilynx

                                                                                                                                                                        I might be Old and Tired, but at least I don't support a whiney cunt

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                                                                                                                                                                          • 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                                            • 19813
                                                                                                                                                                            #443
                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by lucas131
                                                                                                                                                                            and you call business, trying to sell non unique content on sites like from 2005, and trying to bill members with xsales? there is enough complaints on the internet, do you know about them?







                                                                                                                                                                            and so ... so, it is really not business, and if yes, it is scammy business
                                                                                                                                                                            Any program doing the millions of joins I have done has complaints. Again, internet trash trying to prove a point that is totally irrelevant to people actually doing business.

                                                                                                                                                                            very important to trolls, however.
                                                                                                                                                                            I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                                                                              • lucas131
                                                                                                                                                                                ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
                                                                                                                                                                                • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                • 11475
                                                                                                                                                                                #444
                                                                                                                                                                                Last edited by lucas131; 04-16-2014, 10:51 AM. Reason: doh!

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                                                                                                                                                                                  • PR_Glen
                                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                    • Oct 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 9058
                                                                                                                                                                                    #445
                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by signupdamnit
                                                                                                                                                                                    As someone said check the terms of the program to be sure there aren't thresholds but generally probably revshare is the easiest one to test and less likely to get the sponsor claiming you committed "fraud" against them or that the sale never showed up because their automated anti-fraud system flagged it as "fraud" (this is a favorite tactic and claim of sponsors who get caught). I would probably do the revshare signup, load up some tokens or $20 on the account and then give it 24-48 hours to see if you have credit by then.

                                                                                                                                                                                    Btw I'm in the US so if you have a tricky sponsor you think might be looking for your test signups feel free to PM me a revshare (has to be revshare so they can't call it fraud) link to use and I'll try to signup and send you a screenshot or video of me doing it along with the date or something so we can see if they credit you. As long as it's under $40 I'm not even worried about getting a refund or anything. It's the least I can do to help the effort.
                                                                                                                                                                                    If someone did a test join with their own card and didn't report it after their test was completed how is that not fraud? Please explain.
                                                                                                                                                                                    webmaster at pimproll dot com

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • lucas131
                                                                                                                                                                                        ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
                                                                                                                                                                                        • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 11475
                                                                                                                                                                                        #446
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                                                        Any program doing the millions of joins I have done has complaints. Again, internet trash trying to prove a point that is totally irrelevant to people actually doing business.

                                                                                                                                                                                        very important to trolls, however.
                                                                                                                                                                                        you mean your bros who are you doing this shady business with do not complains? yeah, that is trange right? you do shitty business in my eyes, thats all, bro howgh

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                                                                                                                                                                                          • OldJeff
                                                                                                                                                                                            Big Fucking hahahaha
                                                                                                                                                                                            • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 2489
                                                                                                                                                                                            #447
                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by lucas131
                                                                                                                                                                                            it will be funny to see 12clicks and other bros starting their business few years ago two weeks and back to mc donalds ...
                                                                                                                                                                                            Started mine 2 years ago, was an employee for a long time, so far have doubled my income each year being in business, will be doubling it again this year (if not a larger increase)

                                                                                                                                                                                            The reason people have lasted in this business is they do not blame (pick your industry destroying flavor of the week) is they tend to their own business while simultaneously not giving a shit what other people are doing.

                                                                                                                                                                                            Everything I have ever seen posted as the end of the industry I have treated as a different way to profit.
                                                                                                                                                                                            Last edited by OldJeff; 04-16-2014, 10:57 AM.
                                                                                                                                                                                            "As pornographers we must act responsibly! ;))"- Nickatilynx

                                                                                                                                                                                            I might be Old and Tired, but at least I don't support a whiney cunt

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • lucas131
                                                                                                                                                                                                ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
                                                                                                                                                                                                • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 11475
                                                                                                                                                                                                #448
                                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by PR_Glen
                                                                                                                                                                                                If someone did a test join with their own card and didn't report it after their test was completed how is that not fraud? Please explain.
                                                                                                                                                                                                and how it is fraud? if i want to buy a site and use my ref link? same as anyone else, my friend can be sitting here near me and if he buy it, then its different? explain please ... really want to know your point ...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • The Porn Nerd
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Living The Dream
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Jun 2009
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 19784
                                                                                                                                                                                                    #449
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Ruseful
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Nice pitch to pick up all the smaller affiliates when the industry comes crashing down "again".

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Believe it or not, the industry is evolving again, tubes are positioning (bracing) themselves, major companies are manoeuvring into positions. The Bro's you speak of, its those bro's in the bro's club that are working together, along with the whales, on platforms you could only dream of, and platforms that are owned and operated BY THE INDUSTRY, not an individual. I can only assume that you do not want to be part of such a platform and stick with the small affiliates. Its fine, I didn't have you down for an invite anyway ;)
                                                                                                                                                                                                    You see THIS is the problem right here. Why is it an 'either/or' situation? Why can't a Program or business work with BOTH "the Whales" and the smaller affiliates? My point is that whether an affiliate is a 'Whale' or a small-time affiliate HOW YOU TREAT THEM AND COMMUNICATE WITH THEM SHOULD BE EXACTLY THE SAME.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Internally, in-house, say whatever you want about this aff or that aff. But when it comes to PUBLIC COMMUNICATION your attitude and comments should be respectful to EVERYONE. Giving this 'Fuck you you ain't worth shit to me anyway' attitude is the problem.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    And don't assume I don't want to be a part of something new that would help my business. You know my sites and my content and you KNOW how well they do. So of course I would want to be a part of whatever new thing is coming. However, this does NOT mean that I would suddenly stop working with my smaller affiliates and treat them like they no longer matter.


                                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Nickatilynx
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Oh you will....... ;)

                                                                                                                                                                                                    once you really get the affiliate business.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    You do know whales that can send you 100 joins in 12 hours read these threads? Prolly thought , nice sites. Good hardworking guy and a tryer.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    That's what I thought of you as a lurker.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Now...well..I hope you one day become a grizzled old vet

                                                                                                                                                                                                    As you and I discussed before there are many ways to work and there are many differant kinds of affiliates. Some affiliates use blackhat methods, some are small time, some are big. So it all depends on what kind of business you want to run, that's all. Plus, I don't have a problem with ANY company doing what it must do to stay in business. What I have a problem with is this attitude from RUC (and others) that borders on the meglomaniacal. LOL I mean, do 'small-time' affiliates (or 'minnows' as you call them, which is a great word for them) bring this level of consternation to program owners? Seems like a lot of bashing going on here towards people trying to run their business the best way they can. It's uncalled for.


                                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                                                                    is that how it looks from the bottom?
                                                                                                                                                                                                    No son, I'm simply playing with the irrelevant while I wait for a con call. Perhaps you should attend a show and see how much smiling your betters actually do.
                                                                                                                                                                                                    extrapolating how we treat industry trash to how we live our lives would be inaccurate.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    but enjoy your hunt for noobs. someone should want them.
                                                                                                                                                                                                    I have new affiliates (noobs as you call them) plus I have the same exact affiliates that RUC and others have (whales). You do not know me or my business obviously. And we have never met at any of the shows I DO attend so perhaps this is why you think I'm some loser. LOL Perhaps you will be in Mallorca in May so we can meet then, or Amsterdam or Prague in the Fall....

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Regardless, your comments and RUC's (and others) are the real problem here. Whether affiliates are worth the trouble or not does NOT give a Program the right to bash honest people for questioning some confusing data. I mean let's be decent people here and try and treat EVERYONE with a basic level of respect. Otherwise you (and others) just come across like cunts. And I'm sure, in 'real life', you and JT and Nick etc are NOT cunts. So if you think this approach is doing anything but hurting your reputation, image and standing you are wrong. it is NOT helping any of you long-term.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • OldJeff
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Big Fucking hahahaha
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • 2489
                                                                                                                                                                                                        #450
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by lucas131
                                                                                                                                                                                                        and how it is fraud? if i want to buy a site and use my ref link? same as anyone else, my friend can be sitting here near me and if he buy it, then its different? explain please ... really want to know your point ...
                                                                                                                                                                                                        You just seriously asked this question ???

                                                                                                                                                                                                        You are actually dumber than I thought, which is really fucking hard to do, I had you pegged at slightly smarter than a potato

                                                                                                                                                                                                        "As pornographers we must act responsibly! ;))"- Nickatilynx

                                                                                                                                                                                                        I might be Old and Tired, but at least I don't support a whiney cunt

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