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"Americas Hitler" JD Vance.
“There isn’t really an upside to Trump.” Tucker Carlson.
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Approach the mirrored reflection saying his name three times : "Butcher .... Butcher .... Butcher ....."
and wait to see if this Bogeyman urban legend manifests in the background, looming over shoulder
While your neighbors were busy killing off everyone in the neighborhood
with your own butcher knife in hand concealed behind your back
you stood for
ever before the window saying
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gfy 2014 = surfers defending programs assfucking affiliatesComment
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Of course you fail to mention the declining paysite sales as well. It wasn't just affiliates that the tube sites harmed.
Your success is an interesting tale of launching tubes of questionable copyright legitimacy, hijacking industry traffic by giving away for free what surfers previously had to pay for, helping to kill affiliate and paysite sales and then opening your own paysites to promote on said tubes.Comment
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What are affiliates bringing to the table that couldn't be done cheaper and better in house?
(Aside from threads like this where a single data point is used to accuse a company of scamming, cheating and ripping people off in a libellous manner?)
Pretend you are a programme owner. Your choice is
a) Recruit some web masters in house and keep 100% of the sales and none of the bullshit drama
b) Have a public programme where 5% of affiliates send 95% of the sales and 95% of the affiliates bitch and moan and demand having their arses wiped and spoon fed whilst sending 20 hits a day and 3 sales a month
That's my point. It's just not worth the hassle.Comment
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dont steal, no problems, no hassle! what dont you get? are you even affiliate? instead of your pseudo marketing blog, do you send traffic somewhere? do you know where is most traffic and how hard is to get it? do you know that those few joins sending small affiliates dont need to mean join next time, but maybe another lurker on free tubes? oh man, yeah, affiliates are waste of time, thats why the biggest companies are on private invite basis, right? ... oh man, wake up ...
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That applies to some affiliates. Not all. Some affiliates do have good traffic and many program owners/managers are still happy to have affiliates and are actively looking for them.
Many of us here were waiting for Lucas's data. After his first find, most of us did not jump on Ruseful's back and attack him. Most of us are sitting and waiting patiently and taking it in.
If it was easy that would be great. But program owners are also finding it harder to get traffic since the launch of tubes.
It's still money no matter how much bitching goes on. Problems go the other way too.
Then why don't they close their doors?
They still need/want affiliates.Comment
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What do YOU bring to the table that I couldn't get from hiring someone in house.
The point is, and sorry you don't get it, that if it takes a lot of time and resource to provide all the content lazy affiliates want, all the hand holding, the arse wiping, and it generates 2 sales a month, it's not worth it.
I think you'll find more and more will be going invite only and certainly new launches will be invite only. People can just do it cheaper in house, and get none of the shit.
Not ones that libel them after CCBill fail to track one sale. ONE sale.Comment
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are you ill? or you really knows shit about how billing works ... looks like this has nothing to do with ccbill, but you guru knows better? ... gfy finally smart ass ... 
first check, ccbill > vendo, fail ... second check, over the weekend, ccbill > ccbill, ok ... third check, today, ccbill > epoch, fail ... even ruc owner said they have been testing something, and that results in bad ccbill linking ... wake the fuck up or gfy!
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Hypothetically speaking, what if you had launched those same paysites 10 years ago? Do you think you would have made more then or more now?
You like to position yourself as a visionary that helps evolve the industry, but the reality is that the industry is making less money under the new model.
You've made it work for you, but the reality is that 98% of your success was launching with the YouPorn.com domain name. It was the funny play on YouTube that went viral. The remaining 2% was having enough balls to harbor unauthorized content and hide behind DMCA (which at that time was something few were willing to do).
Just call a spade a spade and get off the high horse.Comment
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It's really starting to look like we need a forum only for affiliates. It's nice to see there are some real ones still out there.
Anyway I'm putting Relentless on ignore. Enough is enough. Please go on, Lucas. Never mind the distractions.Last edited by signupdamnit; 04-15-2014, 08:01 AM.
You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.
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Not interested in engaging with you Teencat. If you don't have the wherewithal to speak without using insults and name calling, I'm not interested.are you ill? or you really knows shit about how billing works ... looks like this has nothing to do with ccbill, but you guru knows better? ... gfy finally smart ass ... first check, ccbill > vendo, fail ... second check, over the weekend, ccbill > ccbill, ok ... third check, today, ccbill > epoch, fail ... even ruc owner said they have been testing something, and that results in bad ccbill linking ... wake the fuck up or gfy!Comment
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