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  • Nurgle
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2001
    • 2337

    #51
    Originally posted by xxxjay
    there aren't enough sales out there anymore for it to even make sense for an affiliate program to shave its sponsors... the only way I would even consider shaving would be reversed shaving where I add sales to an affiliate to get them motivated, but shaving is so 1999
    if only more sponsors would reverse shave! LOL
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    • klinton
      So Fucking Banned
      • Apr 2003
      • 8766

      #52
      Originally posted by bigluv
      And then there's the large obvious fact of the shaving that was uncovered last year when "a banned user" did some testing causing that program to withdraw from the boards.
      which program ? which banned user ?

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      • bigluv
        Confirmed User
        • Jul 2008
        • 850

        #53
        Originally posted by klinton
        which program ? which banned user ?
        Sorry, it was extremely public, if you missed it you obviously weren't here at the time.

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        • mineistaken
          See signature :)
          • Apr 2007
          • 29656

          #54
          Originally posted by bigluv
          you obviously weren't here at the time.
          That is why he is asking

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          • dehash
            Confirmed User
            • May 2011
            • 889

            #55
            Another fail thread? I already seen few before. Don't be like the rest - bring as some results pleaseeeeeeeeee.
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            • iSpyCams
              Amateur Gynecologist
              • May 2009
              • 4436

              #56
              I am sure if he found anything worth reporting he would have said something by now, Teencat doesn't usually hold back.
              - As soon as I think up a good sig it's going here.

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              • dehash
                Confirmed User
                • May 2011
                • 889

                #57
                I mean positive result is also a result. I am not looking for negative result only.
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                • lucas131
                  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 11475

                  #58
                  oh guys first, i have been one week at european summit, not working of course. next thing, testing is not like i do one now and all done. it will be spread in next weeks, to get bigger time frame, everywhere will be like two or three test joins, all documented, and all, even success ones, will be reported. documents reported will depends on how much drama will be looking from the report, but all my tests will be reported, all of them stay tuned, and dont be hurry, it would be not serious testing then have a nice day everyone and thanks for the interest!

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                  • mineistaken
                    See signature :)
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 29656

                    #59
                    Originally posted by lucas131
                    oh guys first, i have been one week at european summit, not working of course. next thing, testing is not like i do one now and all done. it will be spread in next weeks, to get bigger time frame, everywhere will be like two or three test joins, all documented, and all, even success ones, will be reported. documents reported will depends on how much drama will be looking from the report, but all my tests will be reported, all of them stay tuned, and dont be hurry, it would be not serious testing then have a nice day everyone and thanks for the interest!
                    Looking forward (Of course some sponsors will keep your account "good" since you reported this thing in public).

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                    • nexcom28
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 3716

                      #60
                      Any news on this?

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                      • lucas131
                        ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 11475

                        #61
                        in progress ... have a nice weekend everyone

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                        • Phoenix
                          BACON BACON BACON
                          • Nov 2002
                          • 35475

                          #62
                          lets see it
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                          • dehash
                            Confirmed User
                            • May 2011
                            • 889

                            #63
                            We didn't forget about this thread.
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                            • MasterBlow
                              Confirmed User
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 2059

                              #64
                              Originally posted by dehash
                              We didn't forget about this thread.

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                              • anexsia
                                Confirmed User
                                • May 2010
                                • 5735

                                #65
                                What's going on with this??

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                                • dehash
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • May 2011
                                  • 889

                                  #66
                                  My guess was he is watching all kinky movies from ALL members areas he purchased access to.
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                                  • mineistaken
                                    See signature :)
                                    • Apr 2007
                                    • 29656

                                    #67
                                    He said "it would be spread in next weeks".

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                                    • mopek1
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jun 2004
                                      • 3198

                                      #68
                                      Subscribed.

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                                      • lucas131
                                        ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
                                        • Aug 2004
                                        • 11475

                                        #69
                                        lol guys if i say it will take few weeks, it doesnt mean i will publish anything in few days find something else meanwhile, i will bump this thread when some updates will come

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                                        • Paul&John
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Aug 2005
                                          • 8644

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by lucas131
                                          lol guys if i say it will take few weeks, it doesnt mean i will publish anything in few days find something else meanwhile, i will bump this thread when some updates will come
                                          looking forward to it
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                                          • PornDiscounts-V
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Oct 2003
                                            • 5744

                                            #71
                                            K.. been a few weeks. Even more than a couple!
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                                            • Nurgle
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Feb 2001
                                              • 2337

                                              #72
                                              u can always do your own tests instead of being lazy waiting for these!
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                                              • CurrentlySober
                                                Too lazy to wipe my ass
                                                • Aug 2002
                                                • 38956

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by nexcom28
                                                Any news on this?
                                                YES!

                                                I still like poo...


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                                                • lucas131
                                                  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                  • 11475

                                                  #74
                                                  ok, so lets start, slowly ... first tried was nubiles. made two transactions, first, from my card to my account, on nubiles casting, transaction came through, no problem. then, two weeks later, did another transaction, on nubiles porn, using friends credit card, to another friends account, and again, all goes through fast and well ... so, nubiles and their stats are working well, no shaving detected if all goes well, i will post only this small report, when there will be some shaving or something suspicious, i will post bigger report, with screens and so ... so, more to come, stay tuned and have luck with your business everyone!

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                                                  • mopek1
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jun 2004
                                                    • 3198

                                                    #75
                                                    Thanks for getting it started.

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                                                    • Fat Panda
                                                      Porn is Dead. Move along.
                                                      • Aug 2006
                                                      • 13296

                                                      #76
                                                      nice work teencat

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                                                      • klinton
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • Apr 2003
                                                        • 8766

                                                        #77
                                                        thx man and bump........

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                                                        • lucas131
                                                          ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                          • 11475

                                                          #78
                                                          ok, so here we go with another one ... not that good a previous nubiles ... this time, reallyusefulcash. first test join have been about two weeks ago, made with their nats link from ruc nats, on fakehospital site, used my card and my nats account. all goes well, sale have been listed fast, no problem. then, here we go: problem. second transaction, few days ago. made on fakehospital on their ccbill link listed on fakehospital site, used friends card and another friends account. now, clicked on ccbill link takes you to fakehospital site, but when clicking on join, it takes you to vendo biller, no ccbill form, no chance to get ccbill join form. so, reallyusefulcash is not counting sales from their ccbill links, sale is not in ccbill, sale is not in nats. that means reallyusefulcash is shaving on their ccbill links. i can post screens, or you can try by yourself. all have been made on clean opened firefox browser, all cookies cleared. reallyusefulcash simply shave on ccbill join links ... hope to hear from them more to come, stay tuned, and wish you best with your business everyone!
                                                          Last edited by lucas131; 04-10-2014, 01:02 AM. Reason: had to make some collors in there ... ;)

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                                                          • Nice_Nick
                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                            • Mar 2014
                                                            • 865

                                                            #79
                                                            Interested to hear from them as well. Good stuff.

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                                                            • MrTrollkien
                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                              • Mar 2014
                                                              • 2360

                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by Nice_Nick
                                                              Interested to hear from them as well. Good stuff.
                                                              What you think they will say? That they will confirm, they shave Of course they will try to defend themselves.

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                                                              • mopek1
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jun 2004
                                                                • 3198

                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by lucas131
                                                                more to come, stay tuned,
                                                                Keep them coming.

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                                                                • lucas131
                                                                  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                  • 11475

                                                                  #82
                                                                  btw, about the reallyusefulcash. some of you maybe didnt even know that they are on ccbill, but every of their site is on ccbill first, then it is on nats few days later. me, as i am pushing new sites as early as possible, it was always about using those ccbill links, and most of my traffic is coming from serps with those ccbill links ... so, waiting for explanation, but if it is like it looks like, shaving on payment cascade, or how to call this, can you imagine how much sales and rebills i have lost? really waiting for answer from them ... but i doubt it will be any satisfying one ...

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                                                                  • mopek1
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jun 2004
                                                                    • 3198

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by lucas131
                                                                    btw, about the reallyusefulcash. some of you maybe didnt even know that they are on ccbill,
                                                                    I didn't. I pushed them a little but not enough to make a real judgement.

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                                                                    • lucas131
                                                                      ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                      • 11475

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by mopek1
                                                                      I didn't. I pushed them a little but not enough to make a real judgement.
                                                                      every of their site have page like this

                                                                      http://fakehospital.com/tour/webmasters.html

                                                                      so you can choose ccb or nats, if you choose ccb, it is likely you will never make a sale ... what a thievery ...

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                                                                      • iSpyCams
                                                                        Amateur Gynecologist
                                                                        • May 2009
                                                                        • 4436

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by lucas131
                                                                        every of their site have page like this

                                                                        http://fakehospital.com/tour/webmasters.html

                                                                        so you can choose ccb or nats, if you choose ccb, it is likely you will never make a sale ... what a thievery ...
                                                                        Isn't RUC those same russian spammers from wtf? - I am asking, not accusing.
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                                                                        • DamianJ
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Jul 2006
                                                                          • 15808

                                                                          #86
                                                                          Originally posted by pompousjohn
                                                                          Isn't RUC those same russian spammers from wtf? - I am asking, not accusing.
                                                                          No. It's JT who set up youporn. Nothing to do with the spamming russian fucks.

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                                                                          • iSpyCams
                                                                            Amateur Gynecologist
                                                                            • May 2009
                                                                            • 4436

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                                            No. It's JT who set up youporn. Nothing to do with the spamming russian fucks.
                                                                            Oops, sorry then.
                                                                            - As soon as I think up a good sig it's going here.

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                                                                            • CaptainHowdy
                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                              • Dec 2004
                                                                              • 94741

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Keep it up, teencat ...

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                                                                              • signupdamnit
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Aug 2007
                                                                                • 6697

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by lucas131
                                                                                btw, about the reallyusefulcash. some of you maybe didnt even know that they are on ccbill, but every of their site is on ccbill first, then it is on nats few days later. me, as i am pushing new sites as early as possible, it was always about using those ccbill links, and most of my traffic is coming from serps with those ccbill links ... so, waiting for explanation, but if it is like it looks like, shaving on payment cascade, or how to call this, can you imagine how much sales and rebills i have lost? really waiting for answer from them ... but i doubt it will be any satisfying one ...
                                                                                I'm not really surprised at all. Of course they will claim ignorance. They always do. Then they never offer a reasonable automatic compensation to all webmasters. Instead they pretend it never happened and that they didn't benefit from it. At most they will ask each individual webmaster to "hit them up" for compensation when they know damn well it affected all CCBILL webmasters.

                                                                                The thing is these are million dollar operations and you're telling me they didn't bother to do a test join to make sure affiliates get credit or that no one on the staff has the brains to realize that affiliates aren't getting credit with other processors? Yeah right. Of course this shit is waaaaay more common than most affiliates realize.

                                                                                Anyway thanks for your work, Lucas!
                                                                                Last edited by signupdamnit; 04-10-2014, 06:04 AM.

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                                                                                • bean-aid
                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                  • Jun 2011
                                                                                  • 16493

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Well... on the positive side, looks like he setup his merchant account. I wouldn't be surprised, at all, if he cans the entire ccbill program and forces all affiliates to use nats. I am assuming vendo is his setup... i have never heard of them and no third party would set their page up like that.

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                                                                                  • Relentless
                                                                                    www.EngineFood.com
                                                                                    • Aug 2006
                                                                                    • 5697

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    WebsiteSecure.org does random test joins regularly on the sites that we monitor. We do it without any affiliate codes because our primary goal is to verify that the sites are treating consumers in an ethical manner. We also read through the terms pages, privacy policy, test for spam mailers and so on to provide consumers with a an easy way to identify sites they can trust... and improve ratios for ethical site owners in the process.

                                                                                    While I can not 'guarantee' affiliate payouts from programs because it is not something we specifically test for, I believe you'll find every WebsiteSecure.org certified site is safe to join, and safe to send traffic. If ever you discover a site with a seal behaving improperly in any way please be sure to report it to us immediately: http://www.websitesecure.org/contact...re=Enforcement. We will independently verify claims and take further action when necessary.

                                                                                    You can easily see which sites are WebsiteSecure.org certified by looking for our trademarked certification seal on their site pages or by finding their reviews on major review sites which report certified paysites to their clientele. Several affiliates have mentioned using our certification seals as another way to identify affiliate programs worth working with and we appreciate their trust.

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                                                                                    Last edited by Relentless; 04-10-2014, 06:39 AM.


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                                                                                    • robwod
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Nov 2005
                                                                                      • 2540

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Lucas, while I understand the point of your thread, would it not be more productive to speak to any program owners directly to inform and resolve any possible issues versus public accusations?

                                                                                      I'm just not seeing where the outcome of these results can be productive for you as it may very well sour any business relationship you may otherwise have with a program you accuse of shady behaviour.

                                                                                      I monitor my own links and if I find something I question, I deal with a program owner directly, and in private. I just can't see anything beneficial from public accusations.
                                                                                      Last edited by robwod; 04-10-2014, 06:54 AM.
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                                                                                      • mopek1
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Jun 2004
                                                                                        • 3198

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by robwod
                                                                                        I just can't see anything beneficial from public accusations.
                                                                                        I'm happy with it this way.

                                                                                        I know that glitches are possible but I am educated enough to be able to take what he posts as one piece of 'data' only.

                                                                                        If I happen to promote a program and get amazing results with it and so do many others in this thread then we'd be more open to a discussion with the affiliate owner/manager here.

                                                                                        The data in that case would be:

                                                                                        1- My own stats
                                                                                        2- What others have to say in this thread (affiliates)
                                                                                        3- How the program owner handles it
                                                                                        4- Past GFY searches on the program
                                                                                        5- Lucas' test.

                                                                                        I would look at it as one piece of the overall picture and so I am happy he is doing this publicly.

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                                                                                        • mineistaken
                                                                                          See signature :)
                                                                                          • Apr 2007
                                                                                          • 29656

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Originally posted by robwod
                                                                                          Lucas, while I understand the point of your thread, would it not be more productive to speak to any program owners directly to inform and resolve any possible issues versus public accusations?

                                                                                          I'm just not seeing where the outcome of these results can be productive for you as it may very well sour any business relationship you may otherwise have with a program you accuse of shady behaviour.

                                                                                          I monitor my own links and if I find something I question, I deal with a program owner directly, and in private. I just can't see anything beneficial from public accusations.
                                                                                          So instead of warning other webmasters you better go directly to program and get your money straight leaving all the other webmasters in the dark?
                                                                                          Do you think sponsor will compensate all the others when you report them shaving? No, they will compensate only you and continue to shave others.
                                                                                          "keeping it quiet" is caring only about yourself and screwing the rest.

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                                                                                          • robwod
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Nov 2005
                                                                                            • 2540

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            mineistaken: No, I am saying that my first inclination if I see a problem is to deal with people I work with directly, and discreetly rather than running to a public board and making accusations.

                                                                                            Incidentally, I was just speaking to some other webmasters and wondered how long it take for someone to spin my thoughts on professionalism / professional courtesy to something negative. Only 21 minutes, thanks
                                                                                            Last edited by robwod; 04-10-2014, 07:20 AM.
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                                                                                            • Relentless
                                                                                              www.EngineFood.com
                                                                                              • Aug 2006
                                                                                              • 5697

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Originally posted by robwod
                                                                                              mineistaken: No, I am saying that my first inclination if I see a problem is to deal with people I work with directly, and discreetly rather than running to a public board and making accusations. Incidentally, I was just speaking to some other webmasters and wondered how long it take for someone to spin my thoughts on professionalism / professional courtesy to something negative. Only 21 minutes, thanks
                                                                                              I owe you a drink Robert. I expected on GFY that people would mistakenly claim you were 'in favor of shaving' since you posted that people should be professionals - just because that's what the mob always does... but I never expected it would take less than 30 minutes.
                                                                                              Last edited by Relentless; 04-10-2014, 07:23 AM.


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                                                                                              • Fat Panda
                                                                                                Porn is Dead. Move along.
                                                                                                • Aug 2006
                                                                                                • 13296

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                RUC is a fucking joke. anyone who still promotes them deserves to get assfucked

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                                                                                                • robwod
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Nov 2005
                                                                                                  • 2540

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Originally posted by mopek1
                                                                                                  I would look at it as one piece of the overall picture and so I am happy he is doing this publicly.
                                                                                                  Of course others benefit from public information. My question was what benefit will Lucas get from it? One would assume it damages his image with other programs, and certainly it is conceivable he gets terminated from the ones he accuses of wrong doing.

                                                                                                  So yes, others benefit from his testing, but what does he get out of it? He's the one spending money. Are all of the people waiting with anticipation of the results going to line up and send him money to at least recover the cost of the test joins he is making for their benefit? Somehow I seriously doubt it.
                                                                                                  Last edited by robwod; 04-10-2014, 07:36 AM.
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                                                                                                  • bean-aid
                                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                    • Jun 2011
                                                                                                    • 16493

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    Originally posted by beaner
                                                                                                    Well... on the positive side, looks like he setup his merchant account. I wouldn't be surprised, at all, if he cans the entire ccbill program and forces all affiliates to use nats. I am assuming vendo is his setup... i have never heard of them and no third party would set their page up like that.
                                                                                                    nevermind.... I was on my phone (phone page looked good). Vendo looks to be another European 3rd party

                                                                                                    Now I have nothing positive to say.

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                                                                                                    • iSpyCams
                                                                                                      Amateur Gynecologist
                                                                                                      • May 2009
                                                                                                      • 4436

                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      Originally posted by robwod
                                                                                                      mineistaken: No, I am saying that my first inclination if I see a problem is to deal with people I work with directly, and discreetly rather than running to a public board and making accusations.

                                                                                                      Incidentally, I was just speaking to some other webmasters and wondered how long it take for someone to spin my thoughts on professionalism / professional courtesy to something negative. Only 21 minutes, thanks
                                                                                                      Some of us are interested in the integrity of the community, and don't see any point in being a "professional" in a profession filled with scammers.

                                                                                                      An affiliate program has a responsibility to accurately track and pay for referrals. They should be ready to have that tested at any time, and if they fail the test, intentionally or otherwise then they don't deserve any level of public confidence than what their theft or negligence has caused the result of that test to be.

                                                                                                      Lucas is not damaging anyone's business by pointing out flaws. The business is damaging itself and Lucas is just pointing it out. They should have tested on their own.

                                                                                                      Sharing a personal experience is not an accusation.
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