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Shap 03-06-2014 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 20006769)
Shap once posted something I liked. He said that the member should get the impression when they first log in that the members area never seems to end. You don't want them to feel like they're getting a limited amount of content.

Thanks :thumbsup

Shap 03-06-2014 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by joepusher (Post 19991816)
I'm selling my paysite JoePusher.com but I'm looking for some expert opinions on what the value is.

ccbill revenue is about $2,500 every month. I don't promote the site at all. I also, have never done any upselling. That means its wide open for someone to get busy with it.

Online since 2001. Almost 300 original, real amateur pov scenes, with exclusive amateur girls. Not pornstars or agency girls. None of the content has been licensed out yet either, so there's a goldmine for someone to license content packages if they want to.

site has monthly subscriptions, download to own, pay-per-view, webcam, and a physical product store, all integrated with ccbill custom billing.

Any expert opinions?

As was mentioned probably 6 to 12 month multiple on what you are making.

joepusher 03-06-2014 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 20006826)
As was mentioned probably 6 to 12 month multiple on what you are making.

That's cool. Thanks for the advice. I'll just have to keep it unless someone offers a lot more than that.

http://www.JoePusher.com

Far-L 03-06-2014 06:41 PM

My GFY Bullshit-o-meter broke on this thread.

Seems the mix of truth and pure bs was more than it could handle. I am going to have to get it repaired and re-calibrated.

joepusher 03-06-2014 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by hardcorehosting (Post 20006502)
I don't know your customer base, but going from my experience with TF, yes!!

More scenes inside means longer membership renewal. Look at it this way, we get customers to sign-up because they see one hot girl that they have to see more of, if I want to keep them as a customer I have to have more of the same inside to keep them paying to stay :)

As for the updates, I found that daily updates keeps them and the review sites really happy. We don't add movies everyday, that's why you should start to add pics also. Gives you a cheap update option that believe it or not, there are still a lot of customers that like the pics. When your shooting girls, just take along the camera and shoot 40 or 50 pics so you can get maybe 20 to 25 that can be put up after the video goes on-line. Many of the non-exclusive deals that I've been buying include photo-sets when you get the video, so its really a no-brainer to use them as content :thumbsup

If you update JP every other week with new stuff, and then add something to the 3 bonus sites every few days. Mon, Wed and Friday for amateur site. Tue Thru and Sat for the interracial site, and Sun and Wed for the party site. That way your making updates everyday to your network.

just my :2 cents:

That all makes sense. Thanks for all the tips.

http://www.JoePusher.com

Far-L 03-06-2014 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by joepusher (Post 20007277)
That all makes sense. Thanks for all the tips.

http://www.JoePusher.com

Great advice, if you plan on spending more than the site currently generates per month on worthwhile content.

shimmy2 03-06-2014 08:53 PM

i remember seeing joe pusher ads on backpage in the escort category, it was quite clever marketing idea.

joepusher 03-06-2014 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 20007301)
Great advice, if you plan on spending more than the site currently generates per month on worthwhile content.

I'm trying to follow what you're saying.

The other guy was suggesting to spend a few grand to set up some more sites as part of my program, with enough content to stretch it out for a year or two. How does that relate to 1 single month of revenue? Is that another formula?

I'm not saying that it's right or wrong. I just really don't understand what you meant.

http://www.JoePusher.com

ezgirl 03-07-2014 08:52 AM

Bullshit-o-meter
 
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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 20007239)
My GFY Bullshit-o-meter broke on this thread.

Seems the mix of truth and pure bs was more than it could handle. I am going to have to get it repaired and re-calibrated.

Yep. Best post on this thread.

joepusher 03-07-2014 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by shimmy2 (Post 20007313)
i remember seeing joe pusher ads on backpage in the escort category, it was quite clever marketing idea.

I used to get a lot of signups from that, but then backpage started tripping and saying that I had to put the ads in the "website and phone sex" category which doesn't get any traffic. The escort section gets all the traffic.

Young 03-07-2014 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Markul (Post 19992812)
The reality is this:

If you can't sell your site for what you are asking, you are asking too much. It's simple
business acumen.

Thank God I wasn't here to take your advice when my house sat on the market for 7 months. I was ready to dump the thing based on "simple business acumen." 2 weeks before I did the right buyer came along and I kept the $100k I was going to take a bath on.

There's a right buyer for everything.

joepusher 03-08-2014 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Young (Post 20008223)
Thank God I wasn't here to take your advice when my house sat on the market for 7 months. I was ready to dump the thing based on "simple business acumen." 2 weeks before I did the right buyer came along and I kept the $100k I was going to take a bath on.

There's a right buyer for everything.

Do you still got the 100k? Want to buy a website?

http://JoePusher.com

Far-L 03-08-2014 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by joepusher (Post 20007317)
I'm trying to follow what you're saying.

The other guy was suggesting to spend a few grand to set up some more sites as part of my program, with enough content to stretch it out for a year or two. How does that relate to 1 single month of revenue? Is that another formula?

I'm not saying that it's right or wrong. I just really don't understand what you meant.

http://www.JoePusher.com

I guess I am saying that deciding to invest a lot of money into new content and potentially new sites to create a multi-site all access pass type deal seems like a great way to dig yourself into a big hole when you aren't happy with the money you are currently making insofar as you are looking to sell the site you have.

I am also saying that investing in more content only makes sense if you have the traffic conversions to support it because you can update everyday and it won't matter a bit if the traffic is not converting in the first place.

And I think buying super cheap "filler" content that is already whore'd out won't do much since surfers see that stuff anywhere and everywhere; whereas, paying for decent, exclusive content to provide enough updates is an expensive proposition. We are super cheap when it comes to paying for content and it still costs a fortune to maintain our daily updates. Seen a lot of companies go under trying to play that game.

Finally, I think the advice you like to hear should be discounted greatly and the advice you don't want to hear can often profit you more. When it comes to business advice of this nature I would ask for credentials, references, and examples. GFY has a lot of opinions but very few experts.:2 cents:

Markul 03-08-2014 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Young (Post 20008223)
Thank God I wasn't here to take your advice when my house sat on the market for 7 months. I was ready to dump the thing based on "simple business acumen." 2 weeks before I did the right buyer came along and I kept the $100k I was going to take a bath on.

There's a right buyer for everything.

Good for you. But that situation has little to do with this. You cannot compare a house sale with an adult website sale for so many very obvious reasons.

joepusher 03-08-2014 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Markul (Post 20008446)
Good for you. But that situation has little to do with this. You cannot compare a house sale with an adult website sale for so many very obvious reasons.

I don't think that the person was saying that he thinks that websites are like houses.

I think he's referring to the basic idea that sometimes you can wait for the right buyer to come along for something that you are selling. He was just using sale of his house as an example.

It doesn't mean that it's guaranteed to happen. It just means that it could happen.

http://www.JoePusher.com

arock10 03-08-2014 04:30 PM

Why do you keep writing your site name it the posts

ottopottomouse 03-08-2014 10:56 PM

When he's added 100 links the asking price is going to triple.

joepusher 03-09-2014 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 20008859)
Why do you keep writing your site name it the posts

Just to have the link so any potential buyers can click. Why what's up?

CurrentlySober 03-09-2014 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by joepusher (Post 20009098)
Just to have the link so any potential buyers can click. Why what's up?

Why not just put in your sig? Job done!

joepusher 03-09-2014 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 20009100)
Why not just put in your sig? Job done!

where do I do that at? I'm not really used to coming on here that much until now. I don't have 20,000 posts.

CurrentlySober 03-09-2014 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by joepusher (Post 20009102)
where do I do that at? I'm not really used to coming on here that much until now. I don't have 20,000 posts.

Click on User CP - On the left, under 'Settings and Options - Click 'Edit Signature'

Add your link in there - (Click SAVE) From then on in, Every-time you post anything, it will appear below your post :thumbsup

Good luck with the sale :)

joepusher 03-09-2014 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 20009109)
Click on User CP - On the left, under 'Settings and Options - Click 'Edit Signature'

Add your link in there - (Click SAVE) From then on in, Every-time you post anything, it will appear below your post :thumbsup

Good luck with the sale :)

alright thanks.

CurrentlySober 03-09-2014 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by joepusher (Post 20009159)
alright thanks.

Woot Wot! it Worky...

arock10 03-09-2014 06:01 AM

I expect it to be sold 2 years sooner with that sig in place. Good job

OneHungLo 03-09-2014 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Young (Post 20008223)
Thank God I wasn't here to take your advice when my house sat on the market for 7 months. I was ready to dump the thing based on "simple business acumen." 2 weeks before I did the right buyer came along and I kept the $100k I was going to take a bath on.

There's a right buyer for everything.

^ this right here.

You'd be crazy to sell it for 30k if you're netting $2500 a month consistently.

Contact every website broker that you can find and try to list it with them. I've seen sites making $300 a month sell for 30k. It's all about who you get it in front of.

Alice22 03-09-2014 08:29 AM

I also believe its really depends on the buyer.

I can speak for my self...i can buy sites for much more that what people list here, if i see the right potential.
I will give an example:

I have traffic in some micro niche, and i know i can make sells, other guy, can open a great site in the same niche, but has no traffic and make very little, let's say, only 100$ a month.
Here everybody say, he will sell it for 600- 1200$ max, but in my case, i willing to pay much much more, as i know i can make with it much more than he can.

So, it's all about potential for the buyer.

AdultKing 03-09-2014 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Alice22 (Post 20009257)
So, it's all about potential for the buyer.

When visiting the link in your sig and going here

http://everestcash.com/partners/register.cgi

There's a ton of broken images in the top of the page.

That's not going to encourage people to sign up to the program.

arock10 03-09-2014 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Alice22 (Post 20009257)
I also believe its really depends on the buyer.

I can speak for my self...i can buy sites for much more that what people list here, if i see the right potential.
I will give an example:

I have traffic in some micro niche, and i know i can make sells, other guy, can open a great site in the same niche, but has no traffic and make very little, let's say, only 100$ a month.
Here everybody say, he will sell it for 600- 1200$ max, but in my case, i willing to pay much much more, as i know i can make with it much more than he can.

So, it's all about potential for the buyer.

It goes both ways too though. Current owner is far more familiar with the site and maybe able to run it just right to maintain current earnings. Also with porn in this day and age you constantly need more traffic to just maintain. So trying to see a year into the future can be difficult and risky

Markul 03-09-2014 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by joepusher (Post 20008766)
I don't think that the person was saying that he thinks that websites are like houses.

I think he's referring to the basic idea that sometimes you can wait for the right buyer to come along for something that you are selling. He was just using sale of his house as an example.

It doesn't mean that it's guaranteed to happen. It just means that it could happen.

http://www.JoePusher.com

It's an extremely bad example that just reveals that the poster is probably pretty clueless. Anyhow, a regular car for sale would have been a much better example.

The point is that the longer it takes to sell your website, the less it will be sold for.

Same with my car, I am trying to sell one. It's not being sold. I could lower the price or wait. Result is probably the same in the end = I get less money for my car... unless if it's a super special car that gets more valuable as it ages. But it's not. Kinda like your site, it won't get more valuable if you wait, it'll get less valuable.

The fact is that you have been trying to sell this for a long time - and not been able to - tells me that you are either trying to sell this the wrong way, at the wrong place or for the wrong price.

But yea, you might get lucky. I hope you do. But I wouldn't bet on it :)

OneHungLo 03-09-2014 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Markul (Post 20009363)
It's an extremely bad example that just reveals that the poster is probably pretty clueless. Anyhow, a regular car for sale would have been a much better example.

The point is that the longer it takes to sell your website, the less it will be sold for.

Same with my car, I am trying to sell one. It's not being sold. I could lower the price or wait. Result is probably the same in the end = I get less money for my car... unless if it's a super special car that gets more valuable as it ages. But it's not. Kinda like your site, it won't get more valuable if you wait, it'll get less valuable.

The fact is that you have been trying to sell this for a long time - and not been able to - tells me that you are either trying to sell this the wrong way, at the wrong place or for the wrong price.

But yea, you might get lucky. I hope you do. But I wouldn't bet on it :)

So comparing a depreciating asset (a fucking car??) to a website earning income is a good example? Yahhhh OKayyyyy

joepusher 03-09-2014 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 20009236)
^ this right here.

You'd be crazy to sell it for 30k if you're netting $2500 a month consistently.

Contact every website broker that you can find and try to list it with them. I've seen sites making $300 a month sell for 30k. It's all about who you get it in front of.

Good advice. I've just mainly been talking about it on here, but I'm going to try to do that. Do you know of a certain website for that? Thanks

Markul 03-09-2014 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 20009364)
So comparing a depreciating asset (a fucking car??) to a website earning income is a good example? Yahhhh OKayyyyy

Yes. Actually it is :pimp Both are depreciating assets, the rate might be different but fact is that unless he does something drastic to that website, value will drop over time .

OneHungLo 03-09-2014 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by joepusher (Post 20009445)
Good advice. I've just mainly been talking about it on here, but I'm going to try to do that. Do you know of a certain website for that? Thanks

Off the top of my head latonas.com. Just google website brokers and hit them all up.

Forget about this place...You have guys above comparing your site to a used car.

OneHungLo 03-09-2014 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Markul (Post 20009455)
Yes. Actually it is :pimp Both are depreciating assets, the rate might be different but fact is that unless he does something drastic to that website, value will drop over time .

Really? You're comparing probably the worst investment you can make (a car) to a cash flow producing asset?

LOL.

arock10 03-09-2014 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 20009364)
So comparing a depreciating asset (a fucking car??) to a website earning income is a good example? Yahhhh OKayyyyy

A car will last a lot longer then a porn site.

OneHungLo 03-09-2014 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 20009624)
A car will last a lot longer then a porn site.

And the cow jumped over the moon.

Far-L 03-09-2014 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 20009677)
And the cow jumped over the moon.

Would that be a milk cow?

Markul 03-10-2014 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 20009514)
Really? You're comparing probably the worst investment you can make (a car) to a cash flow producing asset?

LOL.

You do not seem to understand the context. *shrug*


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