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  • klinton
    So Fucking Banned
    • Apr 2003
    • 8766

    #301
    Originally posted by CyberSEO
    The strange thing on video is that armed civilians are interrogating police patrols in a rude form like masters speaks to their slaves.
    that what i meant

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    • Sid70
      Downshifter
      • Dec 2002
      • 16413

      #302
      Originally posted by femdomdestiny
      Kiev I think.
      Revolution time, the people do require cops to report, in Ukraine cops don't do their job at all.
      Русня, идите нахуй!

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      • just a punk
        So fuckin' bored
        • Jun 2003
        • 32393

        #303
        Originally posted by klinton
        that what i meant
        A story of Alexandr Mazychko a former mercenary who was fighting for Chechen terrorists, is now one of the Maydan leaders:



        What a nice guy, isn't it?
        Last edited by just a punk; 02-27-2014, 03:41 AM.
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        • Sid70
          Downshifter
          • Dec 2002
          • 16413

          #304
          Originally posted by CyberSEO
          On first video people in Odessa chanting: "Russia! Russia! Fascism shall not pass!". On the second video some armed bandits on gas station are interrogate transport Police patrols on why they are left their "place of dislocation" and who allowed them to fill their cars and buy ice-cream there. They believe they are new power there
          Русня, идите нахуй!

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          • just a punk
            So fuckin' bored
            • Jun 2003
            • 32393

            #305
            Originally posted by klinton
            that what i meant
            Those are just policemen. Now look how the new peaceful and intelligent Maydan government should talk to a prosecutor. Now I don't worry about the bright future of Ukraine



            Last edited by just a punk; 02-27-2014, 06:22 AM.
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            • evy97
              Confirmed User
              • Apr 2013
              • 482

              #306
              Originally posted by Sid70
              Valuev vs Klitschko would be a good fight.

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              • _Richard_
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Oct 2006
                • 30991

                #307
                Originally posted by CyberSEO
                A story of Alexandr Mazychko a former mercenary who was fighting for Chechen terrorists, is now one of the Maydan leaders:



                What a nice guy, isn't it?
                here is hoping the Canadian delegation can get a photoop with mr. 'i gots me some grenades'

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                • klinton
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 8766

                  #308
                  Originally posted by CyberSEO
                  Actually everyone can ask a policeman to show the id. Can't say for the Ukraine, but here in Russia, police officers MUST show their ids to anyone who's asking for it. So I don't see anything strange on that.
                  btw is it true that In Russia, far far away from Moscow and St. Petersburg, somewhere in east Russia or interior they sometimes shot to Russian Road Police ? what is the name of it ? Дорожно-постовая служба ? i heard that it is not most respected Police in Russia, for their notorious bribe extortions etc...

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                  • Sid70
                    Downshifter
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 16413

                    #309
                    "Нет в этом мире мельче, сволочнее и хамовитее особи, чем кацап. Рождённый в нацистской стране, вскормленный пропагандой нацизма, - этот ублюдок никогда не станет Человеком. У его страны нет друзей - либо холуи, либо враги. Его страна способна только угрожать, унижать и убивать. И за сохранение этого статуса Рассеей рядовой кацап готов пожертвовать собственной жизнью, жизнями своих родителей и детей, качеством жизни собственного народа. Воистину: кацапы - звери. Лютые, кровожадные, но... смертные".

                    А. Солженицин
                    Русня, идите нахуй!

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                    • klinton
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 8766

                      #310
                      Originally posted by Sid70
                      "Нет в этом мире мельче, сволочнее и хамовитее особи, чем кацап. Рождённый в нацистской стране, вскормленный пропагандой нацизма, - этот ублюдок никогда не станет Человеком. У его страны нет друзей - либо холуи, либо враги. Его страна способна только угрожать, унижать и убивать. И за сохранение этого статуса Рассеей рядовой кацап готов пожертвовать собственной жизнью, жизнями своих родителей и детей, качеством жизни собственного народа. Воистину: кацапы - звери. Лютые, кровожадные, но... смертные".

                      А. Солженицин
                      btw, do you know Solzenicyn's opinions after he returned to Russia ? in 90's and 200xs ? He was supporter of Putin....

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                      • just a punk
                        So fuckin' bored
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 32393

                        #311
                        Originally posted by Sid70

                        Obey the Cowgod

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                        • Sid70
                          Downshifter
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 16413

                          #312
                          Originally posted by klinton
                          btw, do you know Solzenicyn's opinions after he returned to Russia ? in 90's and 200xs ? He was supporter of Putin....
                          We could troll each other all day long, no one cares what we say, Ukraine is taking it's path no matter what.

                          ZURICH, Feb 27 (Reuters) - The Swiss government said it will order banks to freeze any funds in Swiss banks found to be linked to ousted President Viktor Yanukovich.

                          http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSWEB00JDP20140227
                          Last edited by Sid70; 02-27-2014, 11:48 AM.
                          Русня, идите нахуй!

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                          • just a punk
                            So fuckin' bored
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 32393

                            #313
                            Originally posted by Sid70
                            "Нет в этом мире мельче, сволочнее и хамовитее особи, чем кацап. Рождённый в нацистской стране, вскормленный пропагандой нацизма, - этот ублюдок никогда не станет Человеком. У его страны нет друзей - либо холуи, либо враги. Его страна способна только угрожать, унижать и убивать. И за сохранение этого статуса Рассеей рядовой кацап готов пожертвовать собственной жизнью, жизнями своих родителей и детей, качеством жизни собственного народа. Воистину: кацапы - звери. Лютые, кровожадные, но... смертные".

                            А. Солженицин
                            Не его стиль. Фэйк это. Причем, топорный. Ты наверно совсем мозги пропил, раз попался на такой тупой развод. Слов вроде "жид" и "кацап" нет ни в одном его произведении, дурилка ты картонная

                            Итаки да, Солженицин поддерживал Путина, а я например - нет. Не поддерживал и ни разу не голосовал ни за него, ни за Медведева
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                            • Sid70
                              Downshifter
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 16413

                              #314
                              Originally posted by cyberseo

                              А у нас вот так - каждый день!
                              Ахуенчик.
                              Русня, идите нахуй!

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                              • Sid70
                                Downshifter
                                • Dec 2002
                                • 16413

                                #315
                                Originally posted by cyberseo
                                Не его стиль. Фэйк это. Причем, топорный. Ты наверно совсем мозги пропил, раз попался на такой тупой развод. Слов вроде "жид" и "кацап" нет ни в одном его произведении, дурилка ты картонная
                                Правда она такая - жжот!


                                Originally posted by cyberseo

                                Итаки да, Солженицин поддерживал Путина, а я например - нет. Не поддерживал и ни разу не голосовал ни за него, ни за Медведева
                                Главное, что он думал и писал о Шариковых, типа тебя.
                                Русня, идите нахуй!

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                                • klinton
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Apr 2003
                                  • 8766

                                  #316
                                  Originally posted by Sid70
                                  We could troll each other all day long, no one cares what we say, Ukraine is taking it's path no matter what.

                                  ZURICH, Feb 27 (Reuters) - The Swiss government said it will order banks to freeze any funds in Swiss banks found to be linked to ousted President Viktor Yanukovich.

                                  http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSWEB00JDP20140227
                                  i'm far from trolling, just posted question(s) :P
                                  to you and cyberseo actually ;-)

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                                  • Sid70
                                    Downshifter
                                    • Dec 2002
                                    • 16413

                                    #317
                                    Originally posted by klinton
                                    i'm far from trolling, just posted question(s) :P
                                    to you and cyberseo actually ;-)
                                    Why would you want an opinion from a Russian?
                                    Русня, идите нахуй!

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                                    • CAHEK
                                      C.C.C.P.
                                      • Aug 2003
                                      • 7414

                                      #318
                                      Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                      A story of Alexandr Mazychko a former mercenary who was fighting for Chechen terrorists, is now one of the Maydan leaders:



                                      What a nice guy, isn't it?


                                      Really ? You Think So ?
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                                      • just a punk
                                        So fuckin' bored
                                        • Jun 2003
                                        • 32393

                                        #319
                                        Originally posted by Sid70
                                        Главное, что он думал и писал о Шариковых, типа тебя.
                                        Старый пьянчуга-Шариков это ты, кто поддерживает пришедших власти на Украине Швондеров.



                                        Ничего не напоминает?



                                        Last edited by just a punk; 02-27-2014, 09:56 PM.
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                                        • just a punk
                                          So fuckin' bored
                                          • Jun 2003
                                          • 32393

                                          #320
                                          Originally posted by Sid70
                                          Why would you want an opinion from a Russian?
                                          I would correct: a misery Russian alcoholic who left Ukraine and lives in Poland now
                                          Obey the Cowgod

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                                          • Kolargol
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Mar 2003
                                            • 1319

                                            #321
                                            Russian army just took over ukrainian airports in Crimea. Gasprom stocks down.

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                                            • ZiggiZiggiCrew
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Dec 2012
                                              • 3175

                                              #322
                                              AK without bullets? or photoshop?

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                                              • evy97
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Apr 2013
                                                • 482

                                                #323
                                                Originally posted by Kolargol
                                                Russian army just took over ukrainian airports in Crimea. Gasprom stocks down.
                                                doesn't look like russian army more likely Berkut

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                                                • klinton
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                  • 8766

                                                  #324
                                                  Originally posted by Sid70
                                                  Why would you want an opinion from a Russian?
                                                  because he lives in Russia ? and my question was that below, but he ignored it

                                                  Originally posted by klinton
                                                  btw is it true that In Russia, far far away from Moscow and St. Petersburg, somewhere in east Russia or interior they sometimes shot to Russian Road Police ? what is the name of it ? Дорожно-постовая служба ? i heard that it is not most respected Police in Russia, for their notorious bribe extortions etc...

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                                                  • klinton
                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                    • Apr 2003
                                                    • 8766

                                                    #325
                                                    Originally posted by Kolargol
                                                    Russian army just took over ukrainian airports in Crimea. Gasprom stocks down.
                                                    completely normal and logical move...regardless if it was russian army or her "hidden" supporters or specops

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                                                    • TheSquealer
                                                      Mayor of Thneedville
                                                      • Oct 2004
                                                      • 26176

                                                      #326
                                                      Originally posted by klinton
                                                      because he lives in Russia ? and my question was that below, but he ignored it
                                                      It used to be very common through the 90s because the legal system had not been fully updated after the collapse of the Soviet Union and basically... a person would get 15 years for drugs in the car or a gun or 15 years for shooting the cop. So,... a lot of cops got shot.
                                                      .
                                                      Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                                                      Rochard

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                                                      • just a punk
                                                        So fuckin' bored
                                                        • Jun 2003
                                                        • 32393

                                                        #327
                                                        Originally posted by klinton
                                                        because he lives in Russia ? and my question was that below, but he ignored it
                                                        I didn't ignore that question. I have no idea about "shorting". And yes, the transport police is the most corrupted one. It will be corrupted till the people will stop giving them bribes.
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                                                        • just a punk
                                                          So fuckin' bored
                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                          • 32393

                                                          #328
                                                          Originally posted by klinton
                                                          completely normal and logical move...regardless if it was russian army or her "hidden" supporters or specops
                                                          Exactly. There are no official confirmation yet that it's a Russian army. So I would prefer to wait before of making any conclusions
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                                                          • just a punk
                                                            So fuckin' bored
                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                            • 32393

                                                            #329
                                                            Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                            It used to be very common through the 90s because the legal system had not been fully updated after the collapse of the Soviet Union and basically... a person would get 15 years for drugs in the car or a gun or 15 years for shooting the cop. So,... a lot of cops got shot.
                                                            What country are you talking about? If you'll get caught with a gun, you'll get 2 years of prison. If you shoot a cop in Russia you'll get a lifetime sentence, because it's considered as a very serious crime. So it's an extremely rare case here if someone shoots at police. And vice versa, it's very rare case if police shoot at civilians in Russia (incomparably rare than in the USA, for example).
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                                                            • Sid70
                                                              Downshifter
                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                              • 16413

                                                              #330
                                                              Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                                              I would correct: a misery Russian alcoholic who left Ukraine and lives in Poland now
                                                              You said you lived in Moscow, that's where old alconauts come from. You, yourself, are at least 36 years old, and you call yourself what ? Young? See you should be getting grey in your pubic hair lol
                                                              Русня, идите нахуй!

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                                                              • Sid70
                                                                Downshifter
                                                                • Dec 2002
                                                                • 16413

                                                                #331
                                                                Originally posted by klinton
                                                                completely normal and logical move...regardless if it was russian army or her "hidden" supporters or specops
                                                                Logical? How is that logical? Normal? Are you out of your mind?
                                                                Tomorrow, Japan invades Kuril Islands, gives Japanese passports out and then
                                                                invades in - is that logical?

                                                                What Russia is doing now it's a WAR. Gonna be a lot of blood soon.
                                                                Русня, идите нахуй!

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                                                                • Marcin978
                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                                  • 392

                                                                  #332
                                                                  I agree with CyberSeo in 99% all the time.

                                                                  There is massive propaganda against Russia, all over the world.
                                                                  I'm from Poland and 90% of us know whats going on on Ukraine
                                                                  but TV, Politicians is sponsored by USA, CIA, EU and they are just lying.

                                                                  USA sponsored every revolution, browse youtube, browse internet, seek yourself for proofs.

                                                                  Russia will free Europe one more time. You will see.
                                                                  Slavic Nations should be together!

                                                                  I'm not Russia lover, but i see that Politics from USA, west are mega hypocrites, and bunch of liars. Politics from my country are
                                                                  USA servants too. Only Russia can be against this evil force.
                                                                  Last edited by Marcin978; 02-28-2014, 04:23 AM.

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                                                                  • Sid70
                                                                    Downshifter
                                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                                    • 16413

                                                                    #333
                                                                    Originally posted by Marcin978
                                                                    I agree with CyberSeo in 99% all the time.

                                                                    There is massive propaganda against Russia, all over the world.
                                                                    I'm from Poland and 90% of us know whats going on on Ukraine
                                                                    but TV, Politicians is sponsored by USA, CIA, EU and they are just lying.

                                                                    USA sponsored every revolution, browse youtube, browse internet, seek yourself for proofs.

                                                                    Russia will free Europe one more time. You will see.
                                                                    Slavic Nations should be together!

                                                                    I'm not Russia lover, but i see that Politics from USA, west are mega hypocrites, and bunch of liars. Politics from my country are
                                                                    USA servants too. Only Russia can be against this evil force.
                                                                    Marcin, I dunno what part of Poland you are from, but here in Malopolska what you say is ridiculous.
                                                                    Русня, идите нахуй!

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                                                                    • Cherry7
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Aug 2005
                                                                      • 3564

                                                                      #334
                                                                      If Poland were a successful economy its working class would not have left the country.

                                                                      As Polish is now the 2nd language in the UK and there are Poles living in every village. It is millions who have left, The biggest emigration in history in peace time.

                                                                      The effects in the UK have been falling wages for most working class. The Poles earn to little to buy houses and are trapped in low wages poor housing. With of course exceptions that have made businesses and shops.

                                                                      Is this a possibility for the Ukraine? Where would all the jobs come from?

                                                                      The world needs to direct economic activity to where people need it.
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                                                                      • TheSquealer
                                                                        Mayor of Thneedville
                                                                        • Oct 2004
                                                                        • 26176

                                                                        #335
                                                                        Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                                                        What country are you talking about? If you'll get caught with a gun, you'll get 2 years of prison. If you shoot a cop in Russia you'll get a lifetime sentence, because it's considered as a very serious crime. So it's an extremely rare case here if someone shoots at police. And vice versa, it's very rare case if police shoot at civilians in Russia (incomparably rare than in the USA, for example).
                                                                        When i lived in Vladivostok in the 90's/early 2000's... GIBDD (formerly GAI) were getting shot constantly. In the late 90's at GIBDD posts, they had to wear a bullet proof vest and a flak jacket. Thats a simple fact. I was there. It's a fact just like all the other simple facts that you insist aren't true. And no one but you is comparing anything to the USA.

                                                                        BTW... for a while in the late 90's, the did change the law to make it legal for GAI to shoot at anyone who didn't stop and a lot of people got shot and got shot at. It was obviously a horrible idea being that GAI was well known for attracting the dumbest human beings in existence. The law was eventually rescinded. I am starting to suspect you are in a mental hospital posting and the truth is that you've never been outside the front doors.

                                                                        Now please... feel free again to deny the facts. I'd feel bad if you didn't.
                                                                        Last edited by TheSquealer; 02-28-2014, 04:59 AM.
                                                                        .
                                                                        Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                                                                        Rochard

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                                                                        • Marcin978
                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                                          • 392

                                                                          #336
                                                                          read polish comments on mayor news portals
                                                                          you will see how young people "love" USA ad West

                                                                          how they love their democracy

                                                                          You will see what people think about Ukrainian nacionalists who are mayor force in Maidan
                                                                          and this whole propaganda of love to them.
                                                                          Last edited by Marcin978; 02-28-2014, 05:04 AM.

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                                                                          • stoka
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Dec 2005
                                                                            • 956

                                                                            #337


                                                                            +1

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                                                                            • just a punk
                                                                              So fuckin' bored
                                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                                              • 32393

                                                                              #338
                                                                              Originally posted by Cherry7
                                                                              Is this a possibility for the Ukraine? Where would all the jobs come from?
                                                                              They don't need a job because they have AK47 now
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                                                                              • just a punk
                                                                                So fuckin' bored
                                                                                • Jun 2003
                                                                                • 32393

                                                                                #339
                                                                                Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                                When i lived in Vladivostok in the 90's/early 2000's... GIBDD (formerly GAI) were getting shot constantly.
                                                                                What "facts" are you talking about? You are trying to compare now and then. 90's were real gangsta times here. Now it's a different country. And I was answering to a question on what's going on here now (not 10 or 15 years ago). That's a big difference you know?

                                                                                Just one thing to compare. $300 was a real cool salary in the late 90s/early 2000 (most were paid about $100-$150 a month - no j/k). Now even a subway train driver is about $2000...$3000 a month.
                                                                                Last edited by just a punk; 02-28-2014, 06:12 AM.
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                                                                                • Sid70
                                                                                  Downshifter
                                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                                  • 16413

                                                                                  #340
                                                                                  Originally posted by Cherry7
                                                                                  If Poland were a successful economy its working class would not have left the country.

                                                                                  As Polish is now the 2nd language in the UK and there are Poles living in every village. It is millions who have left, The biggest emigration in history in peace time.

                                                                                  The effects in the UK have been falling wages for most working class. The Poles earn to little to buy houses and are trapped in low wages poor housing. With of course exceptions that have made businesses and shops.

                                                                                  Is this a possibility for the Ukraine? Where would all the jobs come from?

                                                                                  The world needs to direct economic activity to where people need it.

                                                                                  I'm in Poland. Comparing to Ukrainian reality it's better in terms of social infrastructure, financial services and even job market.

                                                                                  Western people simply can't imagine corruption level in Ukraine, there are things you'd start shitting bricks once you hear about, there is no common sense used for anything, things get complicated on purpose - somebody's making money on that, and, in most cases, it's mafia = Government.

                                                                                  Regarding Ukraine, you're questioning things that are not really important in the first place, what if I told there are no jobs now, there were no jobs before, no salaries right now, people don't care, people survive - especially elder people.

                                                                                  You need to understand that we've been robbed by our Government and Presdient in particular. That was the reason we wanted to get rid of him.

                                                                                  National question. Once again, the separation idea has been brought in by Yanukovich himself, clearly with support of Russian propaganda and media to divide and rule.
                                                                                  Last edited by Sid70; 02-28-2014, 06:17 AM.
                                                                                  Русня, идите нахуй!

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                                                                                  • just a punk
                                                                                    So fuckin' bored
                                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                                    • 32393

                                                                                    #341
                                                                                    Edit for TheSquealer: $300 was a cool salary for a professional programmer in the late 90s/early 2000 but not for a builder or for a subway train driver who just passed a 6-month education course. So, comparing Russia then and Russia now is totally incorrect
                                                                                    Last edited by just a punk; 02-28-2014, 06:20 AM.
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                                                                                    • Sid70
                                                                                      Downshifter
                                                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                                                      • 16413

                                                                                      #342
                                                                                      Originally posted by Marcin978
                                                                                      read polish comments on mayor news portals
                                                                                      you will see how young people "love" USA ad West

                                                                                      how they love their democracy

                                                                                      You will see what people think about Ukrainian nacionalists who are mayor force in Maidan
                                                                                      and this whole propaganda of love to them.
                                                                                      I speak to other Poles that are on my side, sorry, dude.
                                                                                      Русня, идите нахуй!

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                                                                                      • Sid70
                                                                                        Downshifter
                                                                                        • Dec 2002
                                                                                        • 16413

                                                                                        #343
                                                                                        Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                                                                        Edit for TheSquealer: $300 was a cool salary for a professional programmer but not for a builder or for a subway train driver who just passed a 6-month education course. So, comparing Russia then and Russia now is totally incorrect
                                                                                        One notice. $300 before was fucking $300, now even $800 you could barely eat on. Dollar has fallen 2 times in value, remember that? So nothing has changed really.
                                                                                        Русня, идите нахуй!

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                                                                                        • just a punk
                                                                                          So fuckin' bored
                                                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                                                          • 32393

                                                                                          #344
                                                                                          Originally posted by Kolargol
                                                                                          Russian army just took over ukrainian airports in Crimea. Gasprom stocks down.
                                                                                          Gasprom down for about 1%, Lukoil down twice more, Sberbank is up. The overall RTS index is 0.5% up. So nothing upstanding there - just a usual fluctuation
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                                                                                          • just a punk
                                                                                            So fuckin' bored
                                                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                                                            • 32393

                                                                                            #345
                                                                                            Originally posted by Sid70
                                                                                            One notice. $300 before was fucking $300, now even $800 you could barely eat on.
                                                                                            Dollar has fallen during last 10 years but not 20 times (a cool salary for a professional programer is about $6000 now)

                                                                                            As about $800. An average Ukrainian earns even less, but I haven't heard about another "golodomor" there. Seems they are able to eat on that money w/o problems
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                                                                                            • Sid70
                                                                                              Downshifter
                                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                                              • 16413

                                                                                              #346
                                                                                              Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                                                                              Dollar has fallen during last 10 years but not 20 times (a cool salary for a professional programer is about $6000 now)

                                                                                              As about $800. An average Ukrainian earns even less, but I haven't heard about another "golodomor" there. Seems they are able to eat on that money w/o problems
                                                                                              it's $14k in Ukraine for a team lead. I offered my buddies to move to Poland and Germany, they lold at me, because here people pay tax.
                                                                                              IT sector is not a good sample.
                                                                                              Русня, идите нахуй!

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                                                                                              • klinton
                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                • Apr 2003
                                                                                                • 8766

                                                                                                #347
                                                                                                Originally posted by Sid70
                                                                                                Logical? How is that logical? Normal? Are you out of your mind?
                                                                                                Tomorrow, Japan invades Kuril Islands, gives Japanese passports out and then
                                                                                                invades in - is that logical?

                                                                                                What Russia is doing now it's a WAR. Gonna be a lot of blood soon.
                                                                                                they have base in there...legally rented...so their move is logical...putting aside also all Crimea's past...and putting aside that most of Crimea's people are actually Russians...or sympathizing with Russians....
                                                                                                imagine what would do USA with their Guantanamo base in Cuba during similiar events ?
                                                                                                It is such logical as support for the goverment that actually has won battle of power during violent uprising...I am still waiting for votes from nation...to have legitmate govermenent in Ukraine

                                                                                                I'm not anti Russian, or antiUkrainian or whatever...I just use common sense...and I'm actually tired of media in my country lying on current situation in Ukraine 24/7...LYING...and i'm tired of many things, such as minister in my country's who could be hero from Polanski's movie "ghost writer"...etc etc.

                                                                                                The thing that happens now in Ukraine is the thing/case/matter of Ukraine nation...and maybe also Russia, Poland (and Germany -to support polish side during hard negotations with Russia ;-) ). basically saying - is the thing of Ukraine and its closest neighbours...what the f.. USA want here ? Do somebody from Russia or Germany tell how Mexico should be governed ? US already did what they did, with their bullshit "wars": on terror, drugs etc. installing brutal govs in South America, killing Allende etc.

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                                                                                                • Sid70
                                                                                                  Downshifter
                                                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                                                  • 16413

                                                                                                  #348
                                                                                                  Originally posted by klinton
                                                                                                  they have base in there...legally rented...so their move is logical...putting aside also all Crimea's past...and putting aside that most of Crimea's people are actually Russians...or sympathizing with Russians....
                                                                                                  imagine what would do USA with their Guantanamo base in Cuba during similiar events ?
                                                                                                  It is such logical as support for the goverment that actually has won battle of power during violent uprising...I am still waiting for votes from nation...to have legitmate govermenent in Ukraine

                                                                                                  I'm not anti Russian, or antiUkrainian or whatever...I just use common sense...and I'm actually tired of media in my country lying on current situation in Ukraine 24/7...LYING...and i'm tired of many things, such as minister in my country's who could be hero from Polanski's movie "ghost writer"...etc etc.

                                                                                                  The thing that happens now in Ukraine is the thing/case/matter of Ukraine nation...and maybe also Russia, Poland (and Germany -to support polish side during hard negotations with Russia ;-) ). basically saying - is the thing of Ukraine and its closest neighbours...what the f.. USA want here ? Do somebody from Russia or Germany tell how Mexico should be governed ? US already did what they did, with their bullshit "wars": on terror, drugs etc. installing brutal govs in South America, killing Allende etc.

                                                                                                  They should stick to their base only.
                                                                                                  Actually that was Yanukovich who extended the rent, I'd cut off.
                                                                                                  Last edited by Sid70; 02-28-2014, 07:31 AM.
                                                                                                  Русня, идите нахуй!

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                                                                                                  • Kolargol
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                                                    • 1319

                                                                                                    #349
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Marcin978
                                                                                                    read polish comments on mayor news portals
                                                                                                    you will see how young people "love" USA ad West

                                                                                                    how they love their democracy

                                                                                                    You will see what people think about Ukrainian nacionalists who are mayor force in Maidan
                                                                                                    and this whole propaganda of love to them.
                                                                                                    Average people from east try become more western which means less corruption, less crime, more safety and peace. If they dont succeed they emigrate or look for jobs in this "hated" west. Considering it is US based board and most of our clients and cooperators are in USA or Western Europe I think one could safely assume that these are our aspirations.

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                                                                                                    • just a punk
                                                                                                      So fuckin' bored
                                                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                                                      • 32393

                                                                                                      #350
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Sid70
                                                                                                      it's $14k in Ukraine for a team lead. I offered my buddies to move to Poland and Germany, they lold at me, because here people pay tax.
                                                                                                      IT sector is not a good sample.
                                                                                                      I'm not talking about senior developer, team lead and other positions. I just compared salary of a programmer 10 ago and now. It has changed for about 20 times. If that's not good indicator, let's compare realty prices, for example.
                                                                                                      Last edited by just a punk; 02-28-2014, 07:48 AM.
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