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[NBDesign]

My bird dwants to break into porn..... Selling naked bird content now.

Here is a sample.



Any takers?

[NBDesign]

If anyone out there has ever had a problem with their bird picking out their feathers, please let me know how you stopped it. Please help... this has been going on for a year and a half.

Thanks

[Gutterboy]

Originally posted by NBDesign
If anyone out there has ever had a problem with their bird picking out their feathers, please let me know how you stopped it.

Put a blanket over the cage, pull a ripper off the bong, blow it in, and leave for a few minutes. Do it twice daily until the bird stops picking its feathers.

No joke btw, we used to do that with our poor, manic budgie who was always smashing his head against the mirror and making his beak bleed for no apparent reason. After a few months of it, he was calm and mellow for the rest of his life.

[NBDesign]

Originally posted by Gutterboy


Put a blanket over the cage, pull a ripper off the bong, blow it in, and leave for a few minutes. Do it twice daily until the bird stops picking its feathers.

No joke btw, we used to do that with our poor, manic budgie who was always smashing his head against the mirror and making his beak bleed for no apparent reason. After a few months of it, he was calm and mellow for the rest of his life.

Thanks.... I'll give it a try once I can find something to fill the bong with.

[pink_in_the_middle]

It's lonely. Leave the t.v on during the day, talk to it a lot,pay attention to it. He/she will get better I promise you.

[pink_in_the_middle]

Originally posted by NBDesign


Thanks.... I'll give it a try once I can find something to fill the bong with.

Please don't be so stupid. That could kill it. With birds certain candles, non stick cookware and a bunch of other things can seriously harm or kill the bird. Birds are VERY sensitive!!!!

[Damian_Maxcash]

Yep..... it's just plain bored......

[NBDesign]

Originally posted by pink_in_the_middle


Please don't be so stupid. That could kill it. With birds certain candles, non stick cookware and a bunch of other things can seriously harm or kill the bird. Birds are VERY sensitive!!!!

I was not serious, hell I don't smoke at all in the house because of them. Their little lungs could not take it.

[NBDesign]

Originally posted by pink_in_the_middle
It's lonely. Leave the t.v on during the day, talk to it a lot,pay attention to it. He/she will get better I promise you.

I have a home office, I am here all day and it is usually in the office with me. It started after we moved into our new house.

Think it misses it's old home?

[pink_in_the_middle]

My mother-in-law has 23 birds *all diffrent kinds ranging from HUGE cockatoo's to budgies* You're not even suppose to smoke near the birds. Anything and almost everything can harm the birds. Be very careful what you do to the bird and use around the bird.

Where do you live?

[PersianKitty]

I have the before bird here. Luckily so far mine has kept all her feathers. She's almost 2 years old...just really getting rolling with some better talking (for months it had been "hello" and "where's Kara?" "PeeekABooo!", etc.

[PersianKitty]

Originally posted by pink_in_the_middle
My mother-in-law has 23 birds *all diffrent kinds ranging from HUGE cockatoo's to budgies* You're not even suppose to smoke near the birds. Anything and almost everything can harm the birds. Be very careful what you do to the bird and use around the bird.

Where do you live?

Exactly. Birds breathe twice what we breath once.

African Greys are the most neurotic of the bunch. My first stop would be a good avian vet to make sure there's nothing wrong internally...that it's all behavioral.

[pink_in_the_middle]

Originally posted by NBDesign


Think it misses it's old home?

Yep thats it. If you bring him to the vet the doc will put a little disk around his neck so he'll stop plucking his feathers.

[NBDesign]

Originally posted by pink_in_the_middle
My mother-in-law has 23 birds *all diffrent kinds ranging from HUGE cockatoo's to budgies* You're not even suppose to smoke near the birds. Anything and almost everything can harm the birds. Be very careful what you do to the bird and use around the bird.

Where do you live?

Phoenix. I got her from a breeder in Tucson when she was just beginnign to ween. We hand fed her for a month or so then she started to take the solid food.

Her diet is the same, pleanty of toys and attention, and is healthy. I tried a collor so she could not reach the feathers but it cut into her neck and made her bleed so I took it off.

I am at a loss. I guess she just likes to be naked.

[NBDesign]

Originally posted by PersianKitty
I have the before bird here. Luckily so far mine has kept all her feathers. She's almost 2 years old...just really getting rolling with some better talking (for months it had been "hello" and "where's Kara?" "PeeekABooo!", etc.

Mine is about 2 also and has a great vocb. She says good morning, what, fucker, where's momma, sit, get down, get out of here, (she learned all the commands I used when training our puppy) and a bunch more. She will answer the phone when it rings by saying... NBDesign, hello. She is too sweet.

[PersianKitty]

Good article here..

http://www.birdsnways.com/wisdom/ww26evi.htm

[NBDesign]

Originally posted by PersianKitty
Good article here..

http://www.birdsnways.com/wisdom/ww26evi.htm

Thanks PK

[PersianKitty]

Originally posted by NBDesign



Mine is about 2 also and has a great vocb. She says good morning, what, fucker, where's momma, sit, get down, get out of here, (she learned all the commands I used when training our puppy) and a bunch more. She will answer the phone when it rings by saying... NBDesign, hello. She is too sweet.

Kara does the microwave beep, a bomb dropping, and other whistles, sings bird bird bird, abcdefg, says big bird, pretty bird, hello whenever the phone rings, seeya, whatcha doin, I love you so much, meows like the cats (and in different voices), here kitty kitty...there's more, but they just really get rolling at 18 months to 2 years. The cutest is how she says "where's kara?" in my voice and then answers herself with "Peeek A Boo!"

From the look of your's beak, she's a Congo and they are more likely to pluck than Timnehs (what Kara is).

[pink_in_the_middle]

Have the bird tested for giardia
Before doing anything, the possible causes should be ruled out. Giardia is a very frequent cause of plucking in birds

feather picking

First things first.. complete vet workup.. giardia testing, you can order a kit from the website I just gave you.
All medical causes should be ruled out before assuming it is behavioral. That website will give loads of info.

[NBDesign]

Originally posted by PersianKitty


Kara does the microwave beep, a bomb dropping, and other whistles, sings bird bird bird, abcdefg, says big bird, pretty bird, hello whenever the phone rings, seeya, whatcha doin, I love you so much, meows like the cats (and in different voices), here kitty kitty...there's more, but they just really get rolling at 18 months to 2 years. The cutest is how she says "where's kara?" in my voice and then answers herself with "Peeek A Boo!"

From the look of your's beak, she's a Congo and they are more likely to pluck than Timnehs (what Kara is).

Yes, she is a congo and as sweet as can be. Never bites too hard except when the dogs come around and she is out of the cage. The cats do not bother her at all and she has a Sun Conure for a friend.

They are great birds.

[NBDesign]

Originally posted by pink_in_the_middle
Have the bird tested for giardia
Before doing anything, the possible causes should be ruled out. Giardia is a very frequent cause of plucking in birds

feather picking

First things first.. complete vet workup.. giardia testing, you can order a kit from the website I just gave you.
All medical causes should be ruled out before assuming it is behavioral. That website will give loads of info.

I will have her checked again, but she was fine last time we went. But then again, that was about 7-8 months ago. She could have pickced up something in that time.

It is pretty dusty out here where we live in Phoenix (Surprise actually, west end of the city close to open desert) I wonder if that could be the problem?

[PersianKitty]

Yeah, when I moved her into the main part of the house (where the cats all live) I worried especially since 5 of mine are part bobcat (pixie bobs). Any time she goes to ground off her perch they go running. I've only had one jump on her cage before and he didn't like the footing and was right back off. She'd likely do more damage to the cats than they would to her ..what with a beak that with 650lbs of pressure per square inch. I don't think the cats think she's a bird. The birds are all outside the window.

[PersianKitty]

Originally posted by NBDesign


I will have her checked again, but she was fine last time we went. But then again, that was about 7-8 months ago. She could have pickced up something in that time.

It is pretty dusty out here where we live in Phoenix (Surprise actually, west end of the city close to open desert) I wonder if that could be the problem?

Do you give her a warm 'shower' several times a week"..either with a mister bottle or in the shower itself? They excrete a powdery substance and the shower is necessary to help keep it at bay.

[Gutterboy]

Originally posted by NBDesign


I was not serious, hell I don't smoke at all in the house because of them. Their little lungs could not take it.

Are you kidding me? My budgie, Baldrick, lived another 7 years after we smoked him out. When he died at 10, he had beaten his species normal in captivity lifespan by 4 years.

Smoke your bird out, it will live 70% longer.

[Tek-Sup-Port]

all i can say as a bird owner(15 in total) is that if a bird plucks its self bald you cant change that especially on an african grey.they are prone to plucking, and needing the most attention, all i can suggest is that you love it for the ugly bald bird it is. you can be sweet and loving to it and it will still pluck, not out of neglection but out of habbit. same as a person who bites there nales!!!

it is a bad habbit but there is no point in fighting with it, a collar just makes them unmobile and clumsy. also can cut the neck like you stated. so just love it for what it is and keep it entertained on a regular basis and it will be happy, look for signs of fluffing of feathers that exist after putting it back in the cage and also a shake of the tail, those signs are signs of total aweeeee, and happiness.

need any other assistance, email me at [email protected]

good luck

[NBDesign]

Originally posted by PersianKitty
Yeah, when I moved her into the main part of the house (where the cats all live) I worried especially since 5 of mine are part bobcat (pixie bobs). Any time she goes to ground off her perch they go running. I've only had one jump on her cage before and he didn't like the footing and was right back off. She'd likely do more damage to the cats than they would to her ..what with a beak that with 650lbs of pressure per square inch. I don't think the cats think she's a bird. The birds are all outside the window.

That could be part of the problem I am having. Our old place the birds were in the bedroom with us and now in the new place they are in the living room. The new place does not have enough room for their cages.

Hmmmm......

[psyko514]

Originally posted by pink_in_the_middle
My mother-in-law has 23 birds *all diffrent kinds ranging from HUGE cockatoo's to budgies* You're not even suppose to smoke near the birds. Anything and almost everything can harm the birds. Be very careful what you do to the bird and use around the bird.

i had a budgie that lived for approx 12 years, and both my parents were heavy smokers.

[Sassyass]

NB,
Remember that these birds are as smart as a child, and not remotely domesticated. he is getting ready to mate, wondering why he can't fly, and is PISSED off! I've seen birds that have mutilated themselves so badly that they died. If it gets any worse you might want to find a breeder and see if they can pair him off.

[NBDesign]

Originally posted by Tek-Sup-Port
all i can say as a bird owner(15 in total) is that if a bird plucks its self bald you cant change that especially on an african grey.they are prone to plucking, and needing the most attention, all i can suggest is that you love it for the ugly bald bird it is. you can be sweet and loving to it and it will still pluck, not out of neglection but out of habbit. same as a person who bites there nales!!!

it is a bad habbit but there is no point in fighting with it, a collar just makes them unmobile and clumsy. also can cut the neck like you stated. so just love it for what it is and keep it entertained on a regular basis and it will be happy, look for signs of fluffing of feathers that exist after putting it back in the cage and also a shake of the tail, those signs are signs of total aweeeee, and happiness.

need any other assistance, email me at [email protected]

Bald or with feathers she is still very well loved.

Thanks, I will keep your email handy. Mine is [email protected].

good luck

[PersianKitty]

Originally posted by Tek-Sup-Port
look for signs of fluffing of feathers that exist after putting it back in the cage and also a shake of the tail, those signs are signs of total aweeeee, and happiness.

Mine is so awestruck it regurgitates me little love presents and drops its wings down to show me the white of its back.... little does she know.... I'm female too. My favorite thing is her little puppy dog whimper.

[NBDesign]

Originally posted by Sassyass
NB,
Remember that these birds are as smart as a child, and not remotely domesticated. he is getting ready to mate, wondering why he can't fly, and is PISSED off! I've seen birds that have mutilated themselves so badly that they died. If it gets any worse you might want to find a breeder and see if they can pair him off.

Never thought of the mating issue. Sure, why not she is horny. I know that drives me crazy

Thanks, that is the first time anyone has ever brought that up. I tried everything else, that will be next.

[PersianKitty]

Originally posted by Sassyass
NB,
Remember that these birds are as smart as a child, and not remotely domesticated. he is getting ready to mate, wondering why he can't fly, and is PISSED off! I've seen birds that have mutilated themselves so badly that they died. If it gets any worse you might want to find a breeder and see if they can pair him off.

Greys don't reach sexual maturity until well into their 3rd year ..often not until they are 6. NB's little girl is only 2.

[Pornwolf]

650 per square inch!?!


Ever make it crack nuts?

[Tek-Sup-Port]

oooohhhhhh , also look into finding out weather the bird was hand fed by syringe or a tube down the throat into the crop if it is a tube chances are that is the cause, testing shows that something like 9-10 pluckers are cause of this crule yet simpler way to feed babies. at work right now i am hand feeding three 6 week old blue and gold macaws, and a 5 month old hyacyinth macaw, this friday we are getting in 3 congo babies, 2 green cheek conure babies and 2 plum head ring neck babies, also we have a timneh grey, double yellow amazon, maxi piones, sun conure, myers, red bellied, 2 lories, and some other ones i cant think of lol.



also looking at the photo you posted, wtf is your bird doing drinking from a bottle, it isnt a guina pig!!!!!!!!!

[PersianKitty]

Originally posted by Pornwolf
650 per square inch!?!


Ever make it crack nuts?

haha.. nuts, plexiglass, hardwoods, chicken bones... just no fingers please.

[PersianKitty]

Originally posted by Tek-Sup-Port

also looking at the photo you posted, wtf is your bird doing drinking from a bottle, it isnt a guina pig!!!!!!!!!

Mine drinks from a similar bottle... breeder and several avian experts claim it to be much more sanitary than dishes, crocks, and bowls.

[Tek-Sup-Port]

there is no way that a timneh or congo has 650 psi in the beak, a hyacyinth macaw(the largest parrot in existance) only has 300psi, on a full grown male. where are you getting your info?????

[Tek-Sup-Port]

if you WASH and add freash food 2 times dayly there is no reason for a bottle. bottles are for rabbits , and guina pigs, young babies ok fine but when they get fully feathered and can eat food ,give them a water bowl

[PersianKitty]

Originally posted by Tek-Sup-Port
there is no way that a timneh or congo has 650 psi in the beak, a hyacyinth macaw(the largest parrot in existance) only has 300psi, on a full grown male. where are you getting your info?????

Eeek typo.. (time to trim my nails).. should of read 250 ..least that's what I was told by more than one breeder. I've heard of macaws that can pop the welds on their cages.

[Tek-Sup-Port]

macaws can splice a piece of arcrilic that is 2 inches thick, like a hot knife through butter.

also where you live there is known to be high factors or giardia in the tap water and also zinc.

look into getting pure water ,and disinfect the cage and all toys with boiling water and also see if your toys that are metal are, stainless steel. they must be!!!!!!

also the bottle might not be so wien onto a dish , ditch the bottle.

just incase the giardia testing was not positive you need to know that for that test you work you need to collect every single poop for 3 days and put them in a vial with sollution , and get the poop samples tested, the giardia virus does not come out with every poop or blood sample, that is why every poop for at least 3 days must be collected. also dont give your bird lots of bread only TINY amounts not often cause it causes yeast infections.

no teflon non stick pans,
no smoking,
no freebreeze air fregrance, or arm and hammer carpet deoderizor
no self cleaning ovens
no in home dry cleaning dryer things
no candles (sented)
no incence
no perfume or anything else that has a fregrance

[NBDesign]

Originally posted by Tek-Sup-Port
oooohhhhhh , also look into finding out weather the bird was hand fed by syringe or a tube down the throat into the crop if it is a tube chances are that is the cause, testing shows that something like 9-10 pluckers are cause of this crule yet simpler way to feed babies. at work right now i am hand feeding three 6 week old blue and gold macaws, and a 5 month old hyacyinth macaw, this friday we are getting in 3 congo babies, 2 green cheek conure babies and 2 plum head ring neck babies, also we have a timneh grey, double yellow amazon, maxi piones, sun conure, myers, red bellied, 2 lories, and some other ones i cant think of lol.



also looking at the photo you posted, wtf is your bird doing drinking from a bottle, it isnt a guina pig!!!!!!!!!

It was syringe and spoon, from us, the breeder used a syringe only. She was eating from the bowl in a very short time.

That cage is for our Sun Conure but the gray has a bottle as well but does not use it. She has a bowl for water as well but will not use it. The Conure does but also has a bowl for bathing and one for drinking.

[Carrie]

How long has this been going on? You said since you moved into your new house, but I didn't catch how long ago that was.
Have the vet check her for mites or skin infection.

If she was used to being in the bedroom by herself in the old house, and now is in not only a *new* house but in a room with lots of activity, that could be stressing her out. Certainly the move stressed her out on its own.
Do you normally have lots of sound going on while you're working? The radio, the tv, possibly porn videos or something? The noise that she's not used to could be bothering her.
Normally birds thrive being in the room in the house that gets the most activity and has lots of interesting things going on, but if she was accustomed to being by herself in a quiet bedroom, this could be a MAJOR change for her.

From the looks of her feathers though, I doubt you'll get much improvement even if you do get her to stop plucking. Once they're bald, they're bald.

PK and Pink have given you *very* good advice, about the only thing I can add is to take into consideration how much you can make her new environment seem as much as possible as her old, comfortable environment that she was used to.
That and give her lots of love.

[xxxinnovations]

wow, that's the ugliest bird ever

[Tek-Sup-Port]

oh what and my advice is not good???? lol

by the way steph we have 16 not 23, little miscount,
we have
1 goffins cockatoo
1 umbrella cockatoo
3 love birds
2 cockatiels
1 bugie
1 alexandrine parrakeet
1 senagal
1 myers
1 red bellied parrot
2 green cheek conures
1 blue fronted conure
1 mytered conure

just remembered another factor to plucking, find out if your bird has been microchiped, it is a new tracking device made for birds that is about the same size as a grain of rice and it is put under the skin on the crop or chest area

pink's brother's ex girlriend Josee has that chip in one of the amazons and it plucks because of it. (info for u steph just incase you didnt know that i work with Josee now ) lol, usless info but whatever im bored.

[PersianKitty]

NB, ultimately none of us here are 'the experts'. We each have our own experiences and our own knowledge pool to draw from. There's been tons of advice given here to sift through and there's an overwhelming amount on the Net.

Maybe the best choice would be to go to "the experts", an avian behavioral consultant. There's several listings for them on the net. Many are very well published and some even start will phone consultations. It's a starting point.

Whatever you do, don't give up.

[pink_in_the_middle]

Originally posted by Tek-Sup-Port

by the way steph we have 16 not 23, little miscount,

LMAO Tell your brother he's the one who told me

[pink_in_the_middle]

Originally posted by Tek-Sup-Port


(info for u steph just incase you didnt know that i work with Josee now ) lol, usless info but whatever im bored.

I know
BTW You know you're on my ICQ eh?