Joe Satriani sues Coldplay over Viva la Vida.

[mynameisjim]

I forgot about Joe Satriani for the last 10 years but I guess he's suing Coldplay saying their song was a rip off of his. Who knows, but the two songs actually sound pretty good together. At one minute they play both at the same time and it matches up perfect.

[DWB]

Someone gonna be paying out.

[Drake]

Busted...

[WiredGuy]

Time for out of court settlement...
WG

[JayAllan]

Now imagine if Coldplay hired Joe Satriani to play guitar on their studio albums. Then they would sound a whole lot better.

[Redrob]

Opps......damn good guitar licks.

[RedShoe]

Satriani is playing guitar. The coldplay queer is singing in the same melody as Satrini's guitar, but that's it.

The drum beats are the same, but they're just standard drum beats nothing special about them.

We all know the "Happy birthday song" is copyrighted, yes? So if someone plays the tune of happy birthday on say a piano or guitar are they in copyright violation?

[O MARINA]

I like Viva la Vida

[RedShoe]

Originally Posted by O MARINA

I like Viva la Vida

that's how we know you're gay.

[O MARINA]

Originally Posted by RedShoe

that's how we know you're gay.

I have it on repeat

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by RedShoe

Satriani is playing guitar. The coldplay queer is singing in the same melody as Satrini's guitar, but that's it.

The drum beats are the same, but they're just standard drum beats nothing special about them.

We all know the "Happy birthday song" is copyrighted, yes? So if someone plays the tune of happy birthday on say a piano or guitar are they in copyright violation?

the problem without your analogy is you use a public domain song instead of an actual copyrighted work. the "melody" of the song can be what differentiates songs... and is what gives an author credit. The melody of a song is what makes it unique.

satrianis music like many others, often doesnt even have words, it is still copyrighted. The "Happy Birthday" song cannot be used to justify copying someones music, as it is public domain, it is in fact the most recognized song in the world... however, the melody is clearly credited to Patty Hill and Mildred Hill in 1893.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Birthday_to_You

[Fletch XXX]

On separate note, anyone should be able to protect their music.

good. coldplay are shite!

[Mr Pheer]

The difference between Happy Birthday and Joe Satriani's music... nobody is singing happy birthday for commercial gain. Joe writes his own music and I dont blame him for being pissed when someone rips it off. I met the guy a month ago, seemed so nice and down to earth. Couldnt imagine him ripping off anyone, so of course he's pissed.

[spanky part 2]

There is nothing original anymore. Where do you get your ideas from? You think it's original, but the inspiration came from some where. Statriani is a has been and never was. Sour fucking grapes, he's just pissed he can't sing.

[Jman]

Good for Joe, hope he takes them all the way. Coldplay sucks... never seen what was the big deal about them.

[Mr Pheer]

Originally Posted by spanky part 2

There is nothing original anymore. Where do you get your ideas from? You think it's original, but the inspiration came from some where. Statriani is a has been and never was. Sour fucking grapes, he's just pissed he can't sing.

a has been and never was? Someone has been feeding you bad information. And he isnt a singer, why would he need to sing?

The guy cant sing but he sells out all his shows, I think that says something.

[spanky part 2]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

a has been and never was? Someone has been feeding you bad information. And he isnt a singer, why would he need to sing?

The guy cant sing but he sells out all his shows, I think that says something.

Selling out the local corner bar doesn't really count.

[Jim_Gunn]

Wow, pretty close. I remember George Harrison got sued and lost that case a bunch of years ago for supposedly unintentionally copying the melody of some doo wop song. This case is roughly similar. I have to say the Coldplay song sounded better with Joe's guitar playing. They should make a monetary settlement and have Joe play guitar on all their songs. :-)

[beerptrol]

Originally Posted by spanky part 2

There is nothing original anymore. Where do you get your ideas from? You think it's original, but the inspiration came from some where. Statriani is a has been and never was. Sour fucking grapes, he's just pissed he can't sing.

lol! He's not really a vocal singer, he does his singing through his guitar playing.
Say what you want about his abilities, but ColdPlay is gonna have to cut him a check!

[Jim_Gunn]

Originally Posted by spanky part 2

Selling out the local corner bar doesn't really count.

Joe Satriani is a talented guy who has had a long career doing what he loves and that career that keeps continuing despite changes in music and technology. I bet he is quite satisfied with his career, lifestyle and his money.

[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by Altwebdesign

good. coldplay are shite!

Correct!

[Marcus Aurelius]

I've always liked Satriani, hope he gets his share outta these nancy boys.

[spanky part 2]

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

Joe Satriani is a talented guy who has had a long career doing what he loves and that career that keeps continuing despite changes in music and technology. I bet he is quite satisfied with his career, lifestyle and his money.

Wow two fans of his on here. You guys must have loved the late eighties. Cmon be honest, you are still sporting that mullet.

[Jim_Gunn]

Originally Posted by spanky part 2

Wow two fans of his on here. You guys must have loved the late eighties. Cmon be honest, you are still sporting that mullet.

Why the hate? I am not such a huge Satriani fan really, nor have I ever seen Satriani in concert. But in a day and age of bands and artists that have one hit wonders and short little careers that end abruptly as tastes change, any musician with a modest following who can sell CDs, travel all around the world playing his own music, create his own successful tour, license his music for video games and other avenues, receive 14 Grammy nominations and sells more than 10 million albums worldwide is doing quite well. Especially considering that he's mostly an instrumental musician! Are you more successful as a webmaster than Satriani is as a musician? If not than shove your childish opinion up your ass.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

Wow, pretty close. I remember George Harrison got sued and lost that case a bunch of years ago for supposedly unintentionally copying the melody of some doo wop song. This case is roughly similar. I have to say the Coldplay song sounded better with Joe's guitar playing. They should make a monetary settlement and have Joe play guitar on all their songs. :-)

yep it was my sweet lord and hes so fine. I think what happens is you hear music and even if you are not listening if its on your brain picks it up. Like when Paul McCartney came up with the melody of yesterday he would play it for everyone he knew and ask what song is this because the melody came so easy to him. I think coldplay will be paying some money.

[~Ray]

I bet the guitar player for Coldplay feels like a goober after hearing Satriani playing their music like he should have been playing all along

[spanky part 2]

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

Why the hate? I am not such a huge Satriani fan really, nor have I ever seen Satriani in concert. But in a day and age of bands and artists that have one hit wonders and short little careers that end abruptly as tastes change, any musician with a modest following who can sell CDs, travel all around the world playing his own music, create his own successful tour, license his music for video games and other avenues, receive 14 Grammy nominations and sells more than 10 million albums worldwide is doing quite well. Especially considering that he's mostly an instrumental musician! Are you more successful as a webmaster than Satriani is as a musician? If not than shove your childish opinion up your ass.

nilly vanilli won a grammy so how good can satriani be?

[TheDoc]

It's close but it isn't the same, you can very clearly here the difference when the Satriani's starts to play. The Cold Play song doesn't follow the same up beat, it's close but it is different.

I'm going to bet when you lay these down on digital you will see the difference, and the difference has to be what.. 10%? A few chords or one strum different, and that is clearly heard in the over lay of the song.

[Mr Pheer]

Originally Posted by spanky part 2

Selling out the local corner bar doesn't really count.

I didnt realize the House of Blues here in Vegas was the local corner bar, but perhaps you know better? Nah...

And yes I've been a fan since the 80's. Good music is timeless. Its mostly the trendy, immature kids that pretend to like something today because its popular at the moment, and then show disgust for it when the next big popular thing comes out. Are you that kind of person?

[stevo]

Very similar melody. But the YouTube sample above slowed down Joe Satriani's portion by 2x or 3x. The tempo is actually very different. It's way too fast to play along with the Coldplay tune.

[LadyMischief]

That's a lot like hat other band, trying to remember the name, that got sued by Aersosmith because they used parts of one of their songs in the tune, and they were forced by Aerosmith to give ALL the proceeds of their record sales to charity.. what a pisser.

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Well I am not too excited about this moaning faggot pseudo rock movement neither.

Anyway these things happen, you actually have a chance, even unintentionally, that your riff will be very close to something that was recorded already, and maybe their composing dude heard this song, forgot about it and then some time later he came with a brilliant riff / theme for a song

I guess they'll settle that out of court.

More interesting would be if one Sgt. moaning faggot lonely heart's club guitar band sued another Sgt. moaning faggot lonely hearts club guitar band, they all sound the same anyway.

This is what I'm talking about:



They're trying to look civil and they have so much love to give!

[Agent 488]

wasn't there another band that was suing coldplay for the same thing?

[Agent 488]

yeah there were sued by creaky boards.

[starpimps]

you guys got it all wrong, kanye west "produced" the track. Making it ok lol

[Zebra]

Originally Posted by budsbabes

wasn't there another band that was suing coldplay for the same thing?

There was. Maybe Joe should sue them also.

[pornask]

Coldplay is fucking faggy

[CaptainHowdy]

Who tought that Coldplay was even a real rock band? damm...

[Herb Kornfield]

You are locked in a room with Osama Bin Laden, Hitler and Chris Martin from Coldplay.

You have a pistol with only 2 bullets ... who do you shoot?









Chris martin twice to make sure he's dead

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

FUCK YOU COLDPLAY.... I think a fair settlement is their music being banned from the airwaves forever ...............

[rbrruss]

The songs have the same feel, but I bet if you transcribed the melodies and looked at them on paper they would be very different.
The reason is that Coldplay is a pop group, so the melody is much more simplified.
Satch is a shredder, so his melody is more complex. (That's the nature of shredders, they just can't avoid adding extra notes).
So, on paper I bet Coldplay's melody would have about half as many notes as Satch's.

But I think Coldplay will still end up settling with him.

[Ryan St. Germain]

I'm not a fan of either. I think that the Satriani song isn't that great and that Coldplay took it and made it worse.

[papill0n]

I need to listen to flying in a blue dream

[spanky part 2]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

I didnt realize the House of Blues here in Vegas was the local corner bar, but perhaps you know better? Nah...

And yes I've been a fan since the 80's. Good music is timeless. Its mostly the trendy, immature kids that pretend to like something today because its popular at the moment, and then show disgust for it when the next big popular thing comes out. Are you that kind of person?

My bet is I am older than you, and mr. irrelevant has never even had a hit worth remembering. I'm not bitter, I just hate when people who you haven't heard from in almost 25 years all of a sudden say "hey that's my song". Gimme a break. How many of these artists base their music off of classics or the beatles and call it their own.

[AmeliaG]

Originally Posted by spanky part 2

There is nothing original anymore. Where do you get your ideas from? You think it's original, but the inspiration came from some where. Statriani is a has been and never was. Sour fucking grapes, he's just pissed he can't sing.

You are totally right. Satriani is an average guy. Nobody is special. Nothing is original. Nobody creates anything. We should totally cancel intellectual property. In fact, all entertainment and all science should be given away for free to all. So what if that removes much of the impetus to create or discover. Nothing is new anyway. So what if it also incidentally removes the bedrock almost all of the legal adult industry is based on.

/sarcasm

I am honestly baffled that anyone who purports to believe the things you claim bothers to get out of bed in the morning. What's the point?

[aico]

wouldn't be the first person they've ripped off.

[Mr Pheer]

Originally Posted by spanky part 2

My bet is I am older than you, and mr. irrelevant has never even had a hit worth remembering. I'm not bitter, I just hate when people who you haven't heard from in almost 25 years all of a sudden say "hey that's my song". Gimme a break. How many of these artists base their music off of classics or the beatles and call it their own.

Havent heard from him in 25 years? He is on tour almost every year, he just finished his 2008 world tour for his new album that he released in the spring. 13 Grammy nominations and 15 million records sold.. not bad for a guy that cant sing and just plays his guitar.

But to call him a has been and never was, sounds pretty unfair. He is everything he wants to be. Any band in the world would be thrilled to add him to their lineup. I dont understand your bitterness with the guy. Anyone who would deny that he is one of the very top guitarist in the world in simply living in denial and lying to themselves, or just retarded.

[Tom_PM]

Using songs like Happy Birthday or non PD pop songs or whatever costs a lot to do legally. Thats why some tv shows or movies make up their own happy birthday baloney song so they dont have to pay. You hear this on some dvd commentaries how they pay through the nose for those small snippets you hear sometimes. Into the tens of thousands.

Pop goes the weasel or camptown races on the other hand.. public domain, so go nuts. Happy Birthday however? Pay up or be sued.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Birthday_to_You

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

But to call him a has been and never was, sounds pretty unfair. He is everything he wants to be. Any band in the world would be thrilled to add him to their lineup.

He actually alternated for Ritch Blackmore with Deep Purple in 1993 Japan tour, I've even heard the bootleg, what's not that well known is that it was not his only engagement ever without his name on, as he was a part of Mick Jagger's touring band before his breakthrough record.

Joe made a great deal of popularizing guitar throughout the 90's, he's an excellent guitarist with bluesy roots and although not all of his work is entirely that consistent, he deserves full credit - making the pop charts with instrumental rock just sounds surreal.

I remember his performance at the Expo Sevilla 1992 among with Vai, Brian May, Joe Walsh and others, that was just incredible, I'll have to check if those sessions were ever released on a DVD.

[Loryn]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

Havent heard from him in 25 years? He is on tour almost every year, he just finished his 2008 world tour for his new album that he released in the spring. 13 Grammy nominations and 15 million records sold.. not bad for a guy that cant sing and just plays his guitar.

But to call him a has been and never was, sounds pretty unfair. He is everything he wants to be. Any band in the world would be thrilled to add him to their lineup. I dont understand your bitterness with the guy. Anyone who would deny that he is one of the very top guitarist in the world in simply living in denial and lying to themselves, or just retarded.

I will go with retarded. Thank you!!! haha The guy is classic and still around for sure. ColdPlay is for chicks, I do like some of their music, I'm a chick haha, but I would never EVER put them anywhere in the same ball park, fuck the same sport, as Satriani. I would rather listen to Satriani than ColdPlay any day!!! I am a rocker for sure and I wouldn?t consider ColdPlay rockers. There hasn?t been a fucking rockin? rock band formed after 1991, maybe Mason or Foo Fighters, but Foo Fighters came out of Nirvana, so I would put them before 1991. Just my