Exoclick is Watching...

**Mediamix** · 02-07-2014, 08:04 AM

Bad move Exo...

**PiracyPitbull** · 02-07-2014, 08:12 AM

Exoclick = knowingly supporting pirates

**signupdamnit** · 02-07-2014, 08:14 AM

There are way too many egotistical assholes in adult.

**Seth Manson** · 02-07-2014, 08:16 AM

Wow.....

**robwod** · 02-07-2014, 08:16 AM

Originally posted by signupdamnit

There are way too many egotistical assholes in adult.

It's really not limited to the adult industry. There's a ton of arrogance, and just as much scamming, going on in mainstream, if not more. Mainstream is pretty ruthless.

**Best-In-BC** · 02-07-2014, 08:16 AM

There a full of there own company, not thinking right cause may be there ways are fucking them.

**OneHungLo** · 02-07-2014, 08:17 AM

Originally posted by PiracyPitbull

Exoclick = knowingly supporting pirates

And apparently blackmailing their pirates err... publishers

**Barefootsies** · 02-07-2014, 08:18 AM

Originally posted by signupdamnit

There are way too many egotistical assholes in adult.

**Creatine** · 02-07-2014, 08:21 AM

Originally posted by robwod

It's really not limited to the adult industry. There's a ton of arrogance, and just as much scamming, going on in mainstream, if not more. Mainstream is pretty ruthless.

Mainstream is worse. Google Adsense walked out with 100$ of mine. Fuck them even more.

I want to start my own network that doesn't fuck users in the ass like everyone else.

I feel like they should have replied and wrote something more along the lines of:

Code:

Hello Tetris,

Here at Exoclick we do our best to provide users with an amazing experience and a high CPM rate. However advertisers are just not willing to pay large amounts of cash for traffic.

We're terribly sorry you are not happy with our service. We are willing to work with you to increase your CPM rates.

My suggestion would be to use 720x60 banners as they tend to convert better. Also remember to place the block ads in areas of the website that the user will see. For example the footer of the website will convert less then the header.


Regards,

Mark

Mark Westwood
Customer Services Director
Deloitte's EMEA Fast 500

That i'd be cool with. But instead they say "Yea we're going to need you to remove everything negative you wrote about us or we're keeping your cash."

That's like if I wrote a review on Google's service being shit, and they came to me threatened to remove all my websites from the search index if I don't remove it.

Or when a gaming company DMCA's a negative review on YouTube of their game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfgoDDh4kE0

It doesn't go well for those companies.

**xxxjay** · 02-07-2014, 12:16 PM

is their traffic any good? I've never used them

**j3rkules** · 02-07-2014, 02:45 PM

Parked right here.

**AdultKing** · 02-07-2014, 03:57 PM

What do you expect when you work with people who pro-actively support thieves ?

**Markul** · 02-07-2014, 04:04 PM

Proactive behavior involves acting in advance of a future situation, rather than just reacting. It means taking control and making things happen rather than just adjusting to a situation or waiting for something to happen.

Okay then.
Right.

Oh and parking here ;)

**AdultKing** · 02-07-2014, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by Markul

Proactive behavior involves acting in advance of a future situation, rather than just reacting. It means taking control and making things happen rather than just adjusting to a situation or waiting for something to happen.

We have evidence of Exoclick deliberately and knowingly courting piracy sites that they know are piracy sites, that's pro-active.

**Markul** · 02-07-2014, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by AdultKing

We have evidence of Exoclick deliberately and knowingly courting piracy sites that they know are piracy sites, that's pro-active.

Okay then.

**itx** · 02-07-2014, 08:59 PM

I think they don't read GFY.

**Creatine** · 02-07-2014, 09:09 PM

Originally posted by itx

I think they don't read GFY.

Read the email they sent me. They clearly do.

**Paully** · 02-07-2014, 10:42 PM

I watching Exoclick...

**marylandcrab** · 02-07-2014, 10:48 PM

exoclick sucked 5 years ago and they are worse now the funny thing is they make you verify your sites and why? it's not like they pay
one interesting exercise is to visit the top adult sites and see what aff programs they use
exo does not appear

**mamaliga** · 02-08-2014, 02:19 AM

You insulting exoclicks and talking bullshit about them on a public board. What did you expect to happen? I see no reason to act like that only because you have low conversion,find another company and move along.
+1

**adultmobile** · 02-08-2014, 05:04 AM

Originally posted by mamaliga

You insulting exoclicks and talking bullshit about them on a public board.

The board is called "go fuck yourself", I am sure this fact can be bring out in a court. "But it was a joke board called go fuck yourself".

**signupdamnit** · 02-08-2014, 05:08 AM

Originally posted by mamaliga

You insulting exoclicks and talking bullshit about them on a public board. What did you expect to happen? I see no reason to act like that only because you have low conversion,find another company and move along.
+1

A good company doesn't have to get pissy when someone says soemthing negative about them like this. Others (real people and not industry shills) will come about and say, "No, they do great for me and they are a great company!" Having to make threats and bring in the lawyers just shows that they see the affiliate as beneath them and that they are desperate to hide something. Once this attitude becomes apparent it seldom works out for long for the affiliate.

**Stephen** · 02-08-2014, 07:39 AM

Originally posted by Creatine

That's like if I wrote a review on Google's service being shit, and they came to me threatened to remove all my websites from the search index if I don't remove it.

I'll comment that savvy affiliate programs / other services include a clause in their TOS that prohibits public discussion of their program in any way. I know folks don't typically read all that text they agreed to by clicking the "I read and agree to..." button, but I know at least one major adult company that will keep your cash if you post anything negative about them on the boards.

Google may also have such a clause and can remove your site from its index anytime it wants

Folks miss that companies aren't being "mean" they're just doing what they told you they would

**robwod** · 02-08-2014, 07:51 AM

Originally posted by Stephen

I'll comment that savvy affiliate programs / other services include a clause in their TOS that prohibits public discussion of their program in any way. I know folks don't typically read all that text they agreed to by clicking the "I read and agree to..." button, but I know at least one major adult company that will keep your cash if you post anything negative about them on the boards.

Google may also have such a clause and can remove your site from its index anytime it wants

Folks miss that companies aren't being "mean" they're just doing what they told you they would

Stephen, I would also argue that, conversely, a lot of other savvy programs would look at it as an opportunity to engage the individual publicly -- since they brought their account to the public, it's fair game. I say opportunity as it allows the program to display a level of professionalism and how they react to people's concerns and/or complaints. More often than not, a professional response in engaging people's concerns may attract others who view the level of professionalism as appealing.

Once you get sucked into a defensive posture, or start with the threats, you inherently tend to attract negativity.

The end result is some companies can take a negative issue and create a positive from it -- and thus create an opportunity for themselves to attract new business. Others will simply amplify the negativity that is present and obtain no such opportunity.

**ShackledMaidens** · 02-08-2014, 08:03 AM

Could it be that after clicking on some of the links on your profile I was redirected to
http://www.popking.org//referral.php?url=8935935

Full of full length stolen films

Suggest AK looks into your piracy

**ShackledMaidens** · 02-08-2014, 08:04 AM

this came from a pop up on http://sexter.me/

**EddyTheDog** · 02-08-2014, 08:09 AM

Originally posted by mamaliga

You insulting exoclicks and talking bullshit about them on a public board. What did you expect to happen? I see no reason to act like that only because you have low conversion,find another company and move along.
+1

One of the reasons GFY is useful is it provides info like that...

Its one of the reasons it exists....

**signupdamnit** · 02-08-2014, 08:29 AM

Originally posted by Stephen

I'll comment that savvy affiliate programs / other services include a clause in their TOS that prohibits public discussion of their program in any way. I know folks don't typically read all that text they agreed to by clicking the "I read and agree to..." button, but I know at least one major adult company that will keep your cash if you post anything negative about them on the boards.

Google may also have such a clause and can remove your site from its index anytime it wants

Folks miss that companies aren't being "mean" they're just doing what they told you they would

If a program has such a clause and uses it to prevent affiliates from saying anything negative it means they are assholes and shady.

If someone defends it then it means either they are an asshole too or they are a kiss ass.

People have the right to speak.

**Creatine** · 02-08-2014, 08:54 AM

Originally posted by ShackledMaidens

Could it be that after clicking on some of the links on your profile I was redirected to
http://www.popking.org//referral.php?url=8935935

Full of full length stolen films

Suggest AK looks into your piracy

No it's not possible. I didn't have exoclick on Sexter.me. Ever. I used Exoclick for mainstream services.

**The Porn Nerd** · 02-08-2014, 08:57 AM

suck suck suck suck suck
COCK

**AdultKing** · 02-08-2014, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by signupdamnit

Having to make threats and bring in the lawyers just shows that they see the affiliate as beneath them and that they are desperate to hide something.

Exoclick have good reason to hide what they are really doing, this is because they are actively working with pirates. The money they generate is as dirty as it gets.

Originally posted by ShackledMaidens

Could it be that after clicking on some of the links on your profile I was redirected to
http://www.popking.org//referral.php?url=8935935

Full of full length stolen films

Suggest AK looks into your piracy

Originally posted by Creatine

No it's not possible. I didn't have exoclick on Sexter.me. Ever. I used Exoclick for mainstream services.

It seems Creatine owns both Sexter.me and Popking.org

If Popking.org redirected you to a site with stolen films then it is likely this is also owned by Creatine as I see no evidence he has any customers yet on this popup system.

@ShackledMaidens what was the url you were finally redacted to ?

**Creatine** · 02-08-2014, 02:39 PM

Originally posted by AdultKing

Exoclick have good reason to hide what they are really doing, this is because they are actively working with pirates. The money they generate is as dirty as it gets.

It seems Creatine owns both Sexter.me and Popking.org

If Popking.org redirected you to a site with stolen films then it is likely this is also owned by Creatine as I see no evidence he has any customers yet on this popup system.

@ShackledMaidens what was the url you were finally redacted to ?

We do have several customers. Quiet frankly I do not give a fuck if you don't see evidence that we don't have any, these are all assumptions.

I launched popking yesterday, we have several hundred users already signed up. The campaigns were automatically accepted. I set it for the admin to review them now.

We're currently in beta and we had several issues, such as campaigns as well as websites automatically being accepted. Also all campaigns and webistes were able to be viewed by everyone which we have now fixed.

I'm still working on fixing some other issues with the website. We did have a pirate site which was vidcloud.pw(That sites flooded with popups) I believe. It linked to movies. I noticed a ton of blogger and tumblr blogs being signed up with us which is strange. I don't think tumblr even allows pop ups or blogger.

**AdultKing** · 02-08-2014, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by Creatine

I do not own sexter.me anymore actually. I sold it off http://gfy.com/showthread.php?p=19974274

PopKing I do own, and we do have several customers. Quiet frankly I do not give a fuck if you don't see evidence that we don't have any, these are all assumptions.

If you sold it why have none of the WHOIS details changed ?

Are you going to deny that you are the username "Porney" on WJunction ?

**Creatine** · 02-08-2014, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by AdultKing

If you sold it why have none of the WHOIS details changed ?

Are you going to deny that you are the username "Porney" on WJunction ?

I am not going to deny that. And I did sell it. I have sold the domain and in the process of transferring files.

Anyways this is the last time I'm replying to you as I don't have to sit here and document my life to you.

**AdultKing** · 02-08-2014, 02:54 PM

It seems Creatine is right into Piracy, which makes him complaining about Exoclick somewhat ironic.

He's run Image hosts where he has been banned by his shared hosting providers and not paid out his pirate users, been accused of scamming on WJunction and also run sites linked to file lockers.

I'd exercise extreme caution doing business with Creatine and if you do then get paid upfront!

**Creatine** · 02-08-2014, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by AdultKing

It seems Creatine is right into Piracy, which makes him complaining about Exoclick somewhat ironic.

He's run Image hosts where he has been banned by his shared hosting providers and not paid out his pirate users, been accused of scamming on WJunction and also run sites linked to file lockers.

I'd exercise extreme caution doing business with Creatine and if you do then get paid upfront!

That's great honey.
I do run several image hosts. None of them are piracy related. Send me a valid DMCA complaint and i'll remove your shit happily.

And again, it doesn't matter what you think of me. Running image hosts is not illegal or piracy related. Nor is being registered on wjunction.(The reason why I was unable to payout the users was because they were scamming me by using bots to view images. Not only that many uploaded child porn was straight up sickening and I simply did not want to deal with it. Most of my image hosts are currently dead or in the process of dying.)

Wjunction is a great forum to advertise services.

I'm also registered to hackforums.net, blackhatowrld.com, digitalpoint.com, forum.bodybuilding.com, warriorofrum, and many other forums.

That's great. I advertise my services on each one. Running an image host that pays users is not illegal nor is it piracy related.

Get your head out of your ass.

**AdultKing** · 02-08-2014, 03:04 PM

Creatine's username on WJunction: http://www.wjunction.com/members/63026-porney.html

Image host catering to piracy:

http://www.wjunction.com/111-affilia...000-views.html

Wanting to upload copyright music videos to a video hosting site:

http://www.wjunction.com/136-file-ho...ml#post1860292

Wanting to preserve file sharing:

http://www.wjunction.com/13-tutorial...ml#post1817987

I could post more.

We also have a list of domains associated with this guy if anyone is interested.

**Creatine** · 02-08-2014, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by AdultKing

Creatine's username on WJunction: http://www.wjunction.com/members/63026-porney.html

Image host catering to piracy:

http://www.wjunction.com/111-affilia...000-views.html

Wanting to upload copyright music videos to a video hosting site:

http://www.wjunction.com/136-file-ho...ml#post1860292

Wanting to preserve file sharing:

http://www.wjunction.com/13-tutorial...ml#post1817987

I could post more.

We also have a list of domains associated with this guy if anyone is interested.

I'm interested. Post them all.

**AdultKing** · 02-08-2014, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by Creatine

I'm interested. Post them all.

You've been outed, accept it.

**Creatine** · 02-08-2014, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by AdultKing

You've been outed, accept it.

I will admit I had some websites that were iffy like imgpay.me and imgboo.me which are both down and i'm trying to sell the domains. I don't know what list of the domains AK has currently, but the only active websites I currently have are popking.org and pornblog.me(Which I intend to sell soon.)

So currently, I'm in no way related to piracy websites and that's that. I intend to keep popking and a clean service.

**AdultKing** · 02-08-2014, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by Creatine

So currently, I'm in no way related to piracy websites and that's that. I intend to keep popking and a clean service.

Are you denying you own vidcloud.pw ? Think really carefully before you answer.

**Creatine** · 02-08-2014, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by AdultKing

Are you denying you own vidcloud.pw ? Think really carefully before you answer.

Yes, I am denying it.

**NEW XTC** · 02-08-2014, 03:31 PM

AK=ALI

**AdultKing** · 02-08-2014, 03:35 PM

Originally posted by Creatine

Yes, I am denying it.

That's interesting seeing as it's using the same shared hosting as all your Pinterest clone sites, has exactly the same Pinterest clone theme with exactly the same customisations, with exactly the same type of crappy logo, with the same domain registrar but what's even more interesting is that this site which shares so many features just happens to be associated with your new, unlaunced site popking.org

Obviously it's in your interest to obfuscate what you run, seeing as you openly state that file sharing must survive and you run piracy related websites in the file locker eco system. You want to minimise the damage you've caused your own reputation.

You've been accused of scamming on sites filled with scammers, which is about as low as you can get quite frankly. Given that history, why should anyone believe your lame denials here ?

Edit: Do you also deny owning pornblog.me ?

**Creatine** · 02-08-2014, 03:42 PM

Originally posted by AdultKing

That's interesting seeing as it's using the same shared hosting as all your Pinterest clone sites, has exactly the same Pinterest clone theme with exactly the same customisations, with exactly the same type of crappy logo, with the same domain registrar but what's even more interesting is that this site which shares so many features just happens to be associated with your new, unlaunced site popking.org

Obviously it's in your interest to obfuscate what you run, seeing as you openly state that file sharing must survive and you run piracy related websites in the file locker eco system. You want to minimise the damage you've caused your own reputation.

You've been accused of scamming on sites filled with scammers, which is about as low as you can get quite frankly. Given that history, why should anyone believe your lame denials here ?

That hosting provider is fairly well known and so is that theme. The logos are clearly different. Sexter.me has a pink logo while vidcloud.pw has a white and brown looking logo. And namecheap is a very large and popular provider.

It's like saying, because I host my domains with namecheap and that guy does as well we're the same guy.

Everyone hosts their sites there.

Maybe I also own jerkpin.com because that's a pinterest theme.

**AdultKing** · 02-08-2014, 03:43 PM

Originally posted by Creatine

That hosting provider is fairly well known and so is that theme. The logos are clearly different. Sexter.me has a pink logo while vidcloud.pw has a white and brown looking logo.

So explain the rest ?

Do you own pornblog.me ? Which has blogs linking to pirated content on file lockers ?

**Creatine** · 02-08-2014, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by AdultKing

So explain the rest ?

Do you own pornblog.me ? Which has blogs linking to pirated content on file lockers ?

I do own pornblog.me yea. We have hundreds of users using the service and as you can see i'm fairly busy arguing with you and don't have time to watch over it 24/7.

Here's our contact form: http://pornblog.me/contact/

Send me valid DMCA requests and i'll remove whatever you need me to.
If you don't own the content you have no rights sending me anything, so feel free to send me whom you represent with the proper removals.

I'll gladly remove your content within 7 days notice.

**AdultKing** · 02-08-2014, 03:53 PM

How do you explain all the similarities between vidcloud.pw and sexter.me AND the fact that this site just happens to be using popking.com ?

Lot's of coincidences there.

**Creatine** · 02-08-2014, 04:05 PM

Originally posted by AdultKing

How do you explain all the similarities between vidcloud.pw and sexter.me AND the fact that this site just happens to be using popking.com ?

Lot's of coincidences there.

I don't know, maybe I was browsing blackhatworld.com and I came across a thread promoting hostwinds so I signed up. That theme was also released on blackhatworld which I got from there.

The fact that it uses popking was probably because I promoted my site on blackhatworld? I ended up banning the users campaign so his website doesnt show up in the popunder anymore. He's probably also signed up as a publisher and has his code on the website.

Simple stuff man. I also host my website pornblog.me with hawkhost, and I had hosting with digitalcoean/hostgator/godaddy. I've hosted with several companies.

As for tthe theme, hat theme is very popular.

You can find it here: http://ericulous.com/2012/09/21/wp-t...nterest-clone/

Look, this website uses it too: http://the-sex.me/
And he has a .me domain, and look at that when you click on thumbnails your taken to the pin source.

Maybe I own that site as well?

All you're doing is throwing slanders around and accusing me of shit.

A while ago I had a guy PM me about the iPin theme wanting to edit his theme to link directly to the source of the pin:
As you can see here:

People do this because it gives back to the webmasters pinning. Many websites have this same fucking theme. Coincidences do happen.

I can assure you I do not own vidcloud.pw. I probably wouldn't even be bale to afford to pay for the hosting.

Anyways I've already wasted a lot of time here, i'm going to go the gym. I'll get back to you later if you end up replying with more slanders towards me.

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