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dyna mo 02-02-2014 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 19967432)
did they just say "world champion"? how can you be world champion in something that is happening just in one country?

What difference does it make? It's quite nitpicky to scrutinize the comment. I mean really.

ErectMedia 02-02-2014 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 19967432)
did they just say "world champion"? how can you be world champion in something that is happening just in one country?

Common knowledge the US is far superior. :1orglaugh

dyna mo 02-02-2014 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19967437)
yankee arrogance :2 cents:

no, it isn't. It's unrealistic to think the NFL is leaving money on the table by not allowing other nations to compete due to yankee arrogance.

mineistaken 02-02-2014 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19967441)
no, it isn't. It's unrealistic to think the NFL is leaving money on the table by not allowing other nations to compete due to yankee arrogance.

I think you misunderstood the point. He was laughing at how come NATIONAL championship title is WORLD champions title.
Also world championship titles are given in competitions where national teams compete, not clubs. So that would be team USA Vs some country in the finals.

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dyna mo 02-02-2014 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19967448)
I think you misunderstood the point. He was laughing at how come NATIONAL championship title is WORLD champions title.
Also world championship titles are given in competitions where national teams compete, not clubs. So that would be team USA Vs some country in the finals.

I don't think I did. Maybe. I look at it like a rock band that goes on a world tour. They don't hit every country in the world, only the ones that it makes sense to spend the money to tour there. But technically, it's not a world tour, if you want to argue semantics.

The NFL is no different. + the super bowl began when the world was much smaller, the expression lives on through tradition, not arrogance.

Nevertheless, the league is making great strides in expanding the game to other countries. the UK for instance. Apparently it takes quite a few billion dollars to do so. Asia is also planned on being expanded into. I think I recall reading that expansion into Asia is predicted to cost $20 billion.

mineistaken 02-02-2014 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19967454)
I don't think I did. Maybe. I look at it like a rock band that goes on a world tour. They don't hit every country in the world, only the ones that it makes sense to spend the money to tour there. But technically, it's not a world tour, if you want to argue semantics.

The NFL is no different. + the super bowl began when the world was much smaller, the expression lives on through tradition, not arrogance.

Nevertheless, the league is making great strides in expanding the game to other countries. the UK for instance. Apparently it takes quite a few billion dollars to do so. Asia is also planned on being expanded into. I think I recall reading that expansion into Asia is predicted to cost $20 billion.

Does MLS winner call itself world champion as well?

You miss the point completely. Seahawks played in US championship and they are champions of USA. As simple as that.

dyna mo 02-02-2014 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19967458)
Does MLS winner call itself world champion as well?

You miss the point completely. Seahawks played in US championship and they are champions of USA. As simple as that.

no, I didn't miss the point, which was a nitpicky point re: semantics, in fact, I nailed the point perfectly.

mineistaken 02-02-2014 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19967477)
no, I didn't miss the point, which was a nitpicky point re: semantics, in fact, I nailed the point perfectly.

How is that semantics while its beyond stupidity?

Do Indian cricket league winners call themselves world champions?

dyna mo 02-02-2014 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19967479)
How is that semantics while its beyond stupidity?

Do Indian cricket league winners call themselves world champions?

I couldn't care less if cricket claims world champions. whoopd doo. If someone in some foreign land gets upset about the fact they don't have a NFL franchise and therefor, the catch phrase is void then start a franchise and get to the super bowl.

America's cup yacht racing trophy is another example. It's not just Americans racing, it's many countries. I guess we should make a rule other countries can't participate because, you know, it's America's cup.

mineistaken 02-02-2014 09:46 PM

its astonishing how you miss the point completely.

How can you not understand the difference between national championship and world championship?

National championship - teams from one country competes and winner is champion of that country.

World championship - national teams of different countries compete and winner is champion of the world.

How on earth you can not see that seahawks fall in the first category?
Really unbelievable :1orglaugh

I called it arrogance, but in your case it should be stupidity...

dyna mo 02-02-2014 09:50 PM

OK, you're upset that a silly sport in another country used the term world champions. How dare we be so arrogant and leave out Liechtenstein. Arrogant Americans are so snobby about NFL.

hahahahahah

feel better now, you won! Yay you. world champion of clinging to silly arguments.

Relentless 02-02-2014 10:08 PM

Until another country has a football team that can compete, national and world champion are the same.

The best iPhone assembly line worker in China is also the de facto world champion of assembling iPhones

dyna mo 02-02-2014 10:08 PM

Do you also get upset and argue about Miss Universe pageant? You know, because it's not fair to klingons and other aliens?

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SBJ 02-02-2014 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19967514)
Do you also get upset and argue about Miss Universe pageant? You know, because it's not fair to klingons and other aliens?

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:1orglaugh:1orglaugh haha great example..

It's the same way with basketball and NBA I believe.. But I heard the new guy in charge of the NBA is talking about starting another division of NBA in Europe..

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mineistaken 02-02-2014 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 19967511)
Until another country has a football team that can compete, national and world champion are the same.

Its not the same. In order to declare world champion there must be a championship organized. If there is no world championship than there is no world champion.

Lets take another example, basketball. And there is world championship. Current world champions are team USA and NOT Miami Heat. Miami heat is champion of USA.

Just like Manchester United is not world champion of soccer. It is champion of England.

And speaking about soccer - does winner of MLS declare itself as world champion as well? Or is it only MLB, NFL, NBA? :1orglaugh

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Spunky 02-02-2014 10:24 PM

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dyna mo 02-02-2014 10:25 PM

It's an expression, not a description. Just like the expression "john" is not a toilet.

I'm going to the john, brb. No, i'm not going to John's, I'm going to take a piss in the toilet.

mineistaken 02-02-2014 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19967532)
It's an expression, not a description. Just like the expression "john" is not a toilet.

I'm going to the john, brb. No, i'm not going to John's, I'm going to take a piss in the toilet.

And this expression is only used by USA national leagues. Thats why I said arrogance of yankees.

And its not a good example. World champion is world champion, there is no "alternative" meanings like in John example.

dyna mo 02-02-2014 10:41 PM

I didin't say there's an alternative meaning, I said it's an expression, not a description.

I noticed you waxed right over my America's cup reference and the MIss Universe example. I'll expect you to be argumentative over those events when they come up on the calendar.


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