Should Pot Be Legal?

[BFT3K]

My opinion...

After marijuana is legalized it will ultimately become a dangerous drug. Companies like Monsanto will begin patenting the seeds, and spraying the plants with poisons. Then, cigarette companies like Philip Morris will mix the product with chemicals like they did with tobacco, and before you know it, pot will become a killer drug. This is why I am not really all-in on this new "legalize-it" movement. Decriminalize it - YES, but to fully legalize it will be a nightmare.

What say you?

[Penny24Seven]

sounds like you have smoked to much

[Zeiss]

I agree with OP

[Choopa Phil]

Originally Posted by Zealotry

I agree with OP

I agree with the OP but the OP would be very ignorant to think this isnt already happening on a different scale via pesticide or any of those k2 knock off type chemicals that could be sprayed on there.

[The Porn Nerd]

Yes I think pot should be....um....should be um....what was the question?

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[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by Choopa Phil

I agree with the OP but the OP would be very ignorant to think this isnt already happening on a different scale via pesticide or any of those k2 knock off type chemicals that could be sprayed on there.

but if you start thinking that, then you start thinking all foods, and people will start calling you a 'batshit conspiracy theorist'

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

A part of legalization is that people are allowed to cultivate their own cannabis.

Want your cannabis chemical-free? Grow your own, or buy from a trusted "organic" cannabis grower/collective as I do. Additionally, consider edibles, vaporization and other healthier alternative means of consuming cannabis instead of using combustion/smoke.





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[WDF]

Let us not forget that the US Govt. already tried to poison marijuana smokers in the 70s by supplying Paraquat to the Mexican Govt to spray on Pot Plants before it was smuggled into the US and consumed by US citizens.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraqua...araquat_pot.22

The program had little success as a deterrent or to reduce the potency of the plants. 20 years later no large scale or long term issues were reported from smoking pot sprayed with it.

However..............

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraquat

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...cle/001085.htm

like other herbicides and defoliants used by the US Govt the real danger/threat was to the person(s) applying the chemical to the plants.

[brassmonkey]

Smoking One Joint is Equivalent to 20 Cigarettes, Study Says

[Rochard]

I think pot should be legal. Make it legal, stop wasting resources on it, and tax it.

My neighbor is a fucking pot head. He slays me - lazy fuck. He got a flat two months ago, is still running his spare.

[JockoHomo]

[JockoHomo]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

Smoking One Joint is Equivalent to 20 Cigarettes, Study Says

Who cares? There so many other ways of ingesting thc including vaporizing and edibles (my personal favorite) that no one needs to smoke it if they don't want to.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by WDF

Let us not forget that the US Govt. already tried to poison marijuana smokers in the 70s by supplying Paraquat to the Mexican Govt to spray on Pot Plants before it was smuggled into the US and consumed by US citizens.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraqua...araquat_pot.22

The program had little success as a deterrent or to reduce the potency of the plants. 20 years later no large scale or long term issues were reported from smoking pot sprayed with it.

However..............

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraquat

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...cle/001085.htm

like other herbicides and defoliants used by the US Govt the real danger/threat was to the person(s) applying the chemical to the plants.

??? the government would NEVER do anything like that

[WDF]

Originally Posted by WDF

Let us not forget that the US Govt. already tried to poison marijuana smokers in the 70s by supplying Paraquat to the Mexican Govt to spray on Pot Plants before it was smuggled into the US and consumed by US citizens.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraqua...araquat_pot.22

The program had little success as a deterrent or to reduce the potency of the plants. 20 years later no large scale or long term issues were reported from smoking pot sprayed with it.

However..............

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraquat

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...cle/001085.htm

like other herbicides and defoliants used by the US Govt the real danger/threat was to the person(s) applying the chemical to the plants.

Originally Posted by _Richard_

??? the government would NEVER do anything like that

No never!

If they did they would blame it on the Chemical Company(s).

[Due]

Originally Posted by BFT3K

My opinion...

After marijuana is legalized it will ultimately become a dangerous drug. Companies like Monsanto will begin patenting the seeds, and spraying the plants with poisons. Then, cigarette companies like Philip Morris will mix the product with chemicals like they did with tobacco, and before you know it, pot will become a killer drug. This is why I am not really all-in on this new "legalize-it" movement. Decriminalize it - YES, but to fully legalize it will be a nightmare.

What say you?

buy organic

[candyflip]

Doesn't matter to me either way. I can get as much as I want whenever I want. If I get caught with it, which has only happened once, the cops take it...didn't give me a ticket, and likely smoked my buds that night.

It really doesn't effect me all that much, but I'd be happy to see it legalized here in NYS.

[seeandsee]

You can still use it , its on every fucking corner

[marlboroack]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Yes I think pot should be....um....should be um....what was the question?

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[Robbie]

I think that it's none of the govt's business what drugs a person wants to do recreationally.

Busybody fucks who have nothing better to do than put their noses in other people's business are the reason that some people think they have the ability to dictate to other people how they should be able to lead their lives.

A free man should be able to smoke a joint, drink alcohol, snort a line, or any damn thing they want to do as long as they don't harm anyone else.
Once they harm someone else...THEN it should be a crime.

All these "preemptive" actions that the govt. and law enforcement are taking are completely un-American in nature in my humble opinion.

But we all know that the prison industry is HUGE and they need lots of "customers" to keep that gravy train rolling.

[Matyko]

if it is still a question in 2014:
legalize the poor herb already!

[BFT3K]

[brassmonkey]

no

[Vendzilla]

Legalize yes, but like Alcohol, And yes grow it yourself or get it from growers.

Government should have little to do with it. Making the very plant illegal that the first flag was made out proves that!

[slapass]

Good luck keeping big business out of it. It is already a gold rush type thing in the states that went first.

Edit: Pyrex anyone? Yep same folks that bring you the Iphone and flat screen tv's.

[J. Falcon]

[Tom_PM]

They can't patent seeds that they haven't used some genetic process on. If there's one thing that people won't be tolerating, it's genetically modified marijuana. They're fine with breeding for certain traits in the final product or during growth cycles, but no gene-splicing. So that part is gone.
I also don't think that there's any reason to think that a tobacco company is going to do anything regarding it. I guess that comes up because they make a product that can be smoked, but what other reason?
From what I understand the current laws are that the shops can only sell what they grow and produce on site.

[The Porn Nerd]

YES pot should be, um, should.....what?

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

From the NORML website:

Cannabis consumers who desire the rapid onset of action associated with inhalation but who are concerned about the potential harms of noxious smoke can dramatically cut down on their intake of carcinogenic compounds by engaging in vaporization rather than smoking.

Cannabis vaporization limits respiratory toxins by heating cannabis to a temperature where cannabinoid vapors form (typically around 180-190 degrees Celsius), but below the point of combustion where noxious smoke and associated toxins (i.e., carcinogenic hydrocarbons) are produced (near 230 degrees Celsius).

Because vaporization can deliver doses of cannabinoids while reducing the users intake of carcinogenic smoke, it is considered to be a preferred and likely safer method of cannabis administration than smoking marijuana cigarettes or inhaling from a water pipe.

According to the findings of a recent clinical trial, use of the Volcano vaporizing device delivered set doses of THC to subjects in a reproducible manner while suppressing the intake of respiratory toxins.

"Our results show that with the Volcano, a safe and effective cannabinoid delivery system seems to be available to patients," investigators at Leiden University's Institute of Biology (the Netherlands) concluded. "The final pulmonal uptake of THC is comparable to the smoking of cannabis, while avoiding the respiratory disadvantages of smoking."

I was a chronic cannabis "smoker" for 20 years, and I developed respiratory problems leading me to quit using cannabis for several years. 3+ years ago, I started using a volcano vaporizer, and I have been amazed how clear my breathing is now. I strongly advocate that people whom wish to consume cannabis, use some care and safety by trying to use edibles and vaporization (as well as tinctures and other preparations) as healthier alternatives to smoking cannabis (btw, like many cannabis consumers, I have never smoked cigarettes in my life, and a nice side-effect for me is that consuming cannabis has helped me to stop drinking alcohol - I'm alcohol-free since 2010).


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[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

Smoking One Joint is Equivalent to 20 Cigarettes, Study Says

Please don't bring up propagandist horseshit. There are plenty of studies to show it is garbage.

[LeRoy]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

Smoking One Joint is Equivalent to 20 Cigarettes, Study Says

[Best-In-BC]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

smoking one joint is equivalent to 20 cigarettes, study says

yet doesnt cause cancer

[stickyfingerz]

Franck is gone. So what are there left on the board. The Anti Cannabis people. There should be less and less as the public at large is finally becoming informed.

This is how stupid you people look.

[atom]

While I do not smoke I think it should be legal.

The lady who cuts my hair had her son busted for growing 3 plants in his apartment on campus at a Wisconsin College. He was charged/convicted of felony, lost his on campus job and was booted out of school.

Kid just turned 19 and he is pretty much fucked. Just a poor college kid trying to save some cash by growing his own.

Sad really, he is a good kid...

[mikesouth]

all drugs should be legal as should prostitution. it is the "illegal" part that causes all the social problems.

Jimmy Carter may have sucked as a President but he did understand this saying that the penalty for using a drug shouldnt do more damage than using the drug does. And he was dead on right.

we release non violent drug offenders from prison tomorrow and we half the number of people in jail/prison. But even at that they now have a drug conviction on their record which prevents them from getting most employment....

Until we radically change the way we view drug use and force the government to give up on the war on drugs it will continue to be a financial and social burden on everyone in this country.

[Robbie]

I agree 100% Mike.

I was watching Henry Rollin's new show "10 Things You Didn't Know About..." on the history channel. And they did an episode on Prohibition.

It was AMAZING what the govt. THOUGHT was going to happen when they banned alcohol. There were actually communities who at first shut down their local jails and turned them into something else because the govt. was convinced that crime would be almost non-existent once alcohol was prohibited! LOL!

Of course, just the opposite happened as a crime wave hit the nation like never before in our history.

The same exact thing has happened with drugs.

Just like the U.S. Govt. created the mob wars and made mafia guys super rich and powerful with alcohol prohibition...they've done the exact same thing with drug prohibition.

They should just stay out of people's personal lives completely. But there's always somebody somewhere who thinks they know what's best for YOU.

And it was done with good intentions.

And as my great grandmother used to say: "The Road To Hell Is Paved With Good Intentions"

The unintended consequences are what our society is dealing with now.

[WDF]

Ashley Monroe says it best!




I like a girl that knows what she wants.

[Choopa Phil]

Originally Posted by atom

While I do not smoke I think it should be legal.

The lady who cuts my hair had her son busted for growing 3 plants in his apartment on campus at a Wisconsin College. He was charged/convicted of felony, lost his on campus job and was booted out of school.

Kid just turned 19 and he is pretty much fucked. Just a poor college kid trying to save some cash by growing his own.

Sad really, he is a good kid...

Hes a real dumb one for doing that too...19 I take it, it was his first year.

[iSpyCams]

My only issue with weed is the smell, and that it is a gateway to ice cream abuse.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by pompousjohn

My only issue with weed is the smell, and that it is a gateway to ice cream abuse.

The way to stop that is to "smell" cocaine and get your appetite back in check.

[atom]

Originally Posted by Choopa Phil

Hes a real dumb one for doing that too...19 I take it, it was his first year.

Yep, first year in college. Him and his roomate figured if they grew a few plants in the closet it wouldn't be a big deal. Landlord stopped by to fix something and then called the cops.

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by pompousjohn

My only issue with weed is the smell, and that it is a gateway to ice cream abuse.

The smell is glorious. Weed and Pussy... two best smells. hehe