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Jel 01-24-2014 06:44 PM

^ aren't you missing the rage factor? I don't pretend to know anything about it in detail, but pure rage surely changes the whole chemical balance in the brain, testosterone surely goes sky high, and whatever else happens physiologically?

I'm actually a nice guy (despite my posts here lol), but I'm going to admit something here - if I had access to a gun, there is absolutely no doubt in my mind I'd have shot at least 1 person before now. I've mellowed a fuck of a lot, so also feel quite truthful in saying it wouldn't happen now - I don't get the intense rage I used to experience, but yeah. When you are in that moment, where for whatever reason you are overcome with rage (was the classic fight or flight scenarios for me), you aren't in your rational mind, and that category of wrong (as you so rightly put it) doesn't exist at that moment(s).

So, 10 years ago, because I had the capacity for extreme actions, I'd have been deemed by those who will want to wield this sort of power at some point in the future because they want everything to be rosy, as worthy of culling (to use an obviously extreme example), yet here I am now, father to a couple of wonderful kids, a pretty good dad going by the great relationship I have with them, a helpful, caring, friendly member of society, and with fuck all 'help' from any cunt in gov't.

You can't tick boxes and have them cover all bases, and why the fuck should they even be there for the current 'greater good means these checkboxes work' way of thinking.

[2 topics in one there, but it's 01:50 here]

Jel 01-24-2014 06:47 PM

^ christ, that really was a ramble wasn't it :1orglaugh

I may post again tomorrow and make it a bit clearer. Or, I may not :upsidedow

pornmasta 01-24-2014 06:49 PM

The new world order requires that you give your weapons, so it will continue until you surrender.

TheSquealer 01-24-2014 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19956941)
^ aren't you missing the rage factor? I don't pretend to know anything about it in detail, but pure rage surely changes the whole chemical balance in the brain, testosterone surely goes sky high, and whatever else happens physiologically?

Rage, is in the moment. The short version is that its basically your fight or flight response coupled with extreme anger. The majority of these school shootings are planned out well in advance. Weeks and months of planning and preparation. That's not "rage". That's premeditated murder. That's been my point, this is not just about someone having a gun or not... its about kids who are clearly unhinged and not being detected until they kill people or get caught trying to do so.

blackmonsters 01-24-2014 09:49 PM

The student has died.

"A student is dead at SC State University and four suspects are at large."

Video : http://www.wltx.com/video/default.as...=3102344744001

brassmonkey 01-24-2014 09:53 PM

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nation...,3547995.story

2MuchMark 01-25-2014 12:51 AM

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Jel 01-25-2014 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19956974)
Rage, is in the moment. The short version is that its basically your fight or flight response coupled with extreme anger. The majority of these school shootings are planned out well in advance. Weeks and months of planning and preparation. That's not "rage". That's premeditated murder. That's been my point, this is not just about someone having a gun or not... its about kids who are clearly unhinged and not being detected until they kill people or get caught trying to do so.

ah ok, I didn't realise that post was specifically about one type (thought it was a general reply to rochards general post) - with ya now :thumbsup

dyna mo 01-25-2014 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19956881)
Of course it does. It empowers them.

If you give someone a knife or a baseball bat or a crowbar, they might feel slightly empowered to hurt one person. You give that same person an AR15 they KNOW they can kill multiple people AND cause mass damage.

The people who do pick up a firearm and shoot people do not have the courage to do the same with a knife or a baseball bat or a crowbar.

At the same time, it gives the killer "distance" from the act of killing. Shooting someone with a firearm is quick, easy, painless, effortless, and has a small amount of risk. Killing someone with a baseball bat or a crowbar is messy, requires strength, and has a lot of risk - And you are not going to be attacking 25 people in five minutes.

How many guns do you own, rochard?

I think you've mentioned at least 2 before.


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Rochard 01-25-2014 05:56 PM

Another mall shooting today.

Where are all the people who own firearms, and why don't they take out the shooters.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19957303)
How many guns do you own, rochard?

I think you've mentioned at least 2 before.


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Five.

Forest 01-25-2014 06:50 PM

50 crazy shootings

Strike_ads 01-25-2014 06:59 PM

What would anyone live in the states complete shit hole

Bourke 01-26-2014 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19956913)
"Empowerment" does not play into it where a normal human being is concerned. Feeling empowered in itself does not allow a sane person to cross the line to murdering innocent people psychologically.

The Milgram Experiment shows without a shadow of doubt that empowerment does exactly that. While it is very interesting to note people's willingness to harm another once empowered by an authority, the most interesting thing I find about this experiment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment) is that NOT ONE participant went to check on the actor who was, they were led to believe, either extremely injured or killed by what they had done. Not one.

All that being said, I agree that it is not going to be the empowerment which is the cause. It is possibly a triggering factor though. Personally I believe the removal of the chance to explore issue of violence, domination, submission, social hierachy etc in early youth through rough play, rough sport etc is to blame for a lot of violence, bullying and outbursts such as this. Kids, boys especially, need controlled outlets to explore these notions as they are growing up. I believe that kids need to play rough sports like football and rugby and should be being taught some form of martial art in primary school and early high school.

PornoMonster 01-26-2014 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19957715)
Another mall shooting today.

Where are all the people who own firearms, and why don't they take out the shooters.



Five.

Locked away!

Police happened to be there in 2 minutes. Superman himself could not of stopped that..

Such a TROLL, you are!


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