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dig420 01-28-2014 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruseful (Post 19960189)
High jacked? You mean outbid?

So because your own experience with .xxx was bad, it must mean its a money grab? And there is little to no demand for .xxx domains? Quite obviously there was for yours.

What does it matter to you what I paid? Tube.xxx and tubes.xxx are unique domains, there will only ever be one of each. They are one off's. And unique things carry a price tag, and I paid the price tag because I wanted them and can afford them. Pick any of my latest sites, and the profits from it will pay for the domain in full within 10 months. That's not taking into account the revenues I will generate on both tube.xxx and tubes.xxx, so please, do not let my spending be an issue to you.

Tell me, have you had a positive experience with the tubes in general? Or will you tell me they are bad too? I have no idea who you are or what you do/did in this industry.

No, I got RIPPED off (imho) by the owners of the .tld by following their process to reserve my domains and after spending a bunch of money and following the process got told that they're keeping my domains. And those .xxx domains aren't unique as long as .com, .net etc predate them, unless I'm misunderstanding what you mean by 'unique'.

I don't care how much money you make. Good for you. You came on here trumpeting your big purchase, apparently looking for positive feedback and ONLY positive feedback about how intelligent you were in locking those domains down. I don't think it was all that smart, and a waste of money. Nothing more complicated than that. I even said I could be proven wrong. That would be pretty impressive, considering you'd be proving Rick Schwartz wrong too. http://www.ricksblog.com/2013/06/my-.../#.Uuf7DxDTlUo

Pornflix 01-28-2014 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by VinceRuth (Post 19960496)
Lot of money......:winkwink:

Sometimes it takes a lot of money to make a lot of money :thumbsup

Tact 01-28-2014 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 19960960)
I'm a guy who's been around since 96 and made a few million a year with usenet and file lockers in full force and watched his income drop 75% overnight when tubes became popular. How the hell can you sell a paysite with youporn getting 1.5m hits or more per hour, every hour, every day of the year? Hell, when *I* want to see porn I go to a tubesite. Why wouldn't I? It's free.
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The following may sound disrespectful or as though I'm being a smart ass, but I'm definitely not and just wanted to point out what you may have missed: Ruseful's posts have incredibly valuable information on how to use the tubes to sell your pay site. Perhaps you could take that information and bring your sale's numbers back to where they once were.

The Porn Nerd 01-28-2014 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 19960463)
Most paysite owners on GFY complain about this constantly but it's something that content producers can do something about. In the past decade nothing has changed concerning branding and watermarks of videos, 99% of paysite owners still put their watermark in the bottom right corner of their videos!

I don't understand why people are not being more creative about how they brand their content. Take for example Dogfart, if you go to one of their tours they have mini interviews for each trailer where the model mentions their website domain multiple times

1) Audio branding - You'd have to go to great lengths to edit that out of scenes
2) Creative Watermarks - It wouldn't take much extra effort to have watermarks appear in other areas of the video i.e. in the centre of the video for 5 - 10 seconds etc

I agree with you about being creative with watermarks but guess WHAT??? Tubes will not let you do what you are saying. SOME will allow the watermark in the center but most want SMALL watermarks in the lower-right corner and will reject a clip if the watermark is too big, a logo, etc etc.

JT: I want to be clear about some objections I've raised to your posts in the past. I think I can sum up "my problem" with your Tube guide, your overall Tube strategy and how (excuse me) boastful you seem to be about it all.

I have already mentioned (and you ignored) how the major tubes post your videos about once every 3 hours (by my unscientific count) while others (mine, for example) get posted once a day-to-once every 3 days (at best). Now why is that? it is NOT because your videos are longer or your banners are better or your CTR is better. My videos, for example, have similar (if not better) ratios than yours do and I would venture to guees that if the major tubes posted MY videos once every 3 hours I, too, would be mega-rich and quite boastful about my success.

Here's my problem JT: Please look at the major tubes homepages. See how many (non-Ruseful) 12+ minute videos are on there? See how many views they get? Nowhere near as many as yours.....huh.

I'm talking X-Art, the new EroticaX (ErosExotica says you're welcome for that inspiration, Gamma), Nubiles, other "erotic"-type content. (And when it comes to "Porn valley"-type 12 minute clips the views are even worse). While you can find examples of a high-view 12 minute clip from the sites I mentioned (and I have) the reality is that the majority of their clips DO NOT do the kind of views (and I'm guessing CTR) your clips do. Again, just look for yourself. Tons of 12 minute clips with 10k views, right next to yours with 400k views. Again, hmmm.

So my "problem" (if that's what it is; it's more like an observation) is that you come on here touting your strategy, claiming no special Bro favours, claiming it's all organic growth. Yet I do NOT see others who have followed your strategy having the same success. Yes, you can claim large companies doing well with your Guide to the Tubes (Gamma and others you mentioned) but they are all LARGE companies, with seemingly endless scenes to throw out there. Smaller companies (like mine) simply cannot compete. And the thing is, all those 12 minute clips the "Bros" are throwing out there? They aren't doing the business you claim, only cluttering up the landscape and making everything worse for the majority of Webmasters.

I congratulate you on your success JT, I honestly do. I have theories as to what's happening but I won't share them here because, in the end, they really don't matter. You are rocking and I congratulate you! But I also contend that your info, while appreciated, does not translate to many other paysites, programs and webmasters.

I would love to be proven wrong and to see other (non-Bro) companies come on here and say how their revenue has increased dramatically due to your "longer is better" strategy. I just can't seem to get past the point tho that Brazzers only puts up 5 minute+ videos on their own tubesites instead of 12 minute clips. Hmmm....

dig420 01-28-2014 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tact (Post 19961088)
The following may sound disrespectful or as though I'm being a smart ass, but I'm definitely not and just wanted to point out what you may have missed: Ruseful's posts have incredibly valuable information on how to use the tubes to sell your pay site. Perhaps you could take that information and bring your sale's numbers back to where they once were.

Never said they weren't, and I've followed some of his advice myself. Can't say I've had the same results, but maybe that's my fault. I dunno.

yutenjiboy 02-02-2014 10:41 PM

Power move but I can see that down the line many folks may just blanket block the .xxx tld.


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