Hey Femjoy, what the fuck?

[Colmike9]

Email from you:

Hello,

I am Ruben from femjoy.com and joymii.com and I am your new affiliate administrator!

I noticed you have made very few sales in the last six months and we’d like to see that increase. What can we do to help? We have a bunch of resources for you so I’m here to help.

If I do not hear back from you, I will try to contact you again – after that, we’ll assume you’re no longer interested in promoting and will close your affiliate account with us. You can re-open it in the future if you chose to start promotion again.

Best regards,

Ruben LASTedit
Affiliate administrator

Is there any program owner that thinks this is ok? It's stealing imho..

I mean, inactive accounts is one thing, but this is bullshit.
(This is from an account sending 1000+ uniques/day, just not selling for some weird reason.....)

So, basically "Hey, your sales suck, but you're still active and sending traffic. Answer this email or we'll deactivate the account....


Just curious to what others think about this..

[DigitalTheory]

http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1131523

[Colmike9]

http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1131523

lol, I swear I looked but couldn't find that...

Oh well, I don't like the program, so whatever..

[Magnetron]

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[Colmike9]

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Yeah, my bad..

[newB]

This is from an account sending 1000+ uniques/day, just not selling for some weird reason.....

I had a similar experience - not that volume, but no signups in a full year - so I removed their listings from the appropriate indices. Seems kind of fishy to me (no pun intended).

[Colmike9]

I had a similar experience - not that volume, but no signups in a full year - so I removed their listings from the appropriate indices. Seems kind of fishy to me (no pun intended).

Right. I guess I was trying to hint that their program/tools/landing pages might suck, or their content might be oversaturated or too many full length vids, etc. or maybe doing something shady like shaving.. But they just want to blame the affiliate for that...

[johnnyloadproductions]

Right. I guess I was trying to hint that their program/tools/landing pages might suck, or their content might be oversaturated or too many full length vids, etc. or maybe doing something shady like shaving.. But they just want to blame the affiliate for that...

I didn't think you could shave with ccbill, unless they are doing something to overwrite your cookie, there's a person that runs a network on here that did that for a bit.

[Colmike9]

I didn't think you could shave with ccbill, unless they are doing something to overwrite your cookie, there's a person that runs a network on here that did that for a bit.

I was just speculating, no clue about CCBill shaving.. I know you can stuff cookies with it, though, but that's illegal..

[Magnetron]

Yeah, my bad..

I got your back.

[Magnetron]

What is incredibly obnoxious about this is that about 4 years ago ratios for Tgp guys were slipping to anywhere between 1:5K to 1:15K range. Did they say back then to anyone, hey your traffic sux.....? No. But, now they want to be all Mister Crabby Appleton in your face because more responsible affiliates are sending them lower volumes of more targeted traffic? Jeepers Creepers.

[Colmike9]

What is incredibly obnoxious about this is that about 4 years ago ratios for Tgp guys were slipping to anywhere between 1:5K to 1:15K range. Did they say back then to anyone, hey your traffic sux.....? No. But, now they want to be all Mister Crabby Appleton in your face because more responsible affiliates are sending them lower volumes of more targeted traffic? Jeepers Creepers.

I also think it's funny that they were trying to brag that they went from 1:12000 to 1:6000 from 2012-2013... That's not good..

[RyuLion]

Wow that sucks...

[Rochard]

I track people who have decreases in sales and contact them, but I would never cut anyone off.

[anexsia]

Ugh so many shady ass companies in this industry, I don't blame you one bit for being pissed Mike

[Magnetron]

I also think it's funny that they were trying to brag that they went from 1:12000 to 1:6000 from 2012-2013... That's not good..

I have under 600 for similar sites these days.

My New Years resolution is that if your ratios suck, you go to the back of the line and someone else gets a chance to outshine you.

And that's where Femjoy and Met-Art currently stand. I find it no coincidence that they are the two worst offenders in regards to dumping too much free content into the public's hands.

[crockett]

All those art style sites used to suck ass for me with conversions from teen traffic. They always had great looking girls but very shitty ratios.

[Cyber Fucker]

Email from you:


Is there any program owner that thinks this is ok? It's stealing imho..

I mean, inactive accounts is one thing, but this is bullshit.
(This is from an account sending 1000+ uniques/day, just not selling for some weird reason.....)

So, basically "Hey, your sales suck, but you're still active and sending traffic. Answer this email or we'll deactivate the account....


Just curious to what others think about this..

1000 uniques a day is for sure not inactive account, even 1000 uniques a month is not an inactive account imho. You are right, another affiliate program wants to rip their affiliates and they are just telling you about it upfront already to threaten you so maybe you will promote them harder or to make the rip legit in their own eyes. So that after they will do it they will have a legit excuse that they warned you and you were not sending enough traffic according to their ToS blah blah blah. Fucking BS!

[oil]

i seriously feel threaten / blackmailed by this email, and the fact that they dont reply to my answer pisses me off too.

In 2013
Femjoy was 1:7000 - 9 Sales / 38 Rebills
Joymii was 1:45.000 - 11 Sales / 9 Rebills
Nutabu i skipped, tour looks like shit to me.

compared with MetArt their ratios are just shit, and lets face it their models are mostly the same, even the locations repeat over and over again, and on top of that most of the vids and stuff are fully tube populated, so they really dont do a lot to help to convert better.

Converting is their job on theTour its not my job, i just sent them traffic.

With well over 500.000 people sent their way in 2013 its unbelievable that they hired this Ruben Retardo which sends out emails like that to people which used to support their biz. I am waiting for a offical apology on that matter for 2 weeks, if nothing comes i pull the plug, cause i dont wanna support retarded people too much, it simply doesnt pay off.

[Femjoy Michael]

Email from you:


Is there any program owner that thinks this is ok? It's stealing imho..

I mean, inactive accounts is one thing, but this is bullshit.
(This is from an account sending 1000+ uniques/day, just not selling for some weird reason.....)

So, basically "Hey, your sales suck, but you're still active and sending traffic. Answer this email or we'll deactivate the account....


Just curious to what others think about this..

I'm really really really sorry about this!!!!!

Please forgive us. That came out all wrong.

As some of you are aware, we have a very international staff and English is not our first language. The email was also sent out a bit accidentally. Some affiliates received the corrected version of that email without the mangled up last paragraph.

To clear things up, your account will not be deactivated.
Your sales will not be scrubbed or shaved or poofed into oblivion.

Many of you have worked with us for nearly decade and we've run one of the most straight, honest programs. That isn't changing.

You can contact me directly if you have any questions: michael [at] femjoy.com

We are currently going through a bit of damage control with this among our staff and I apologize once again for this mistake.

[MaDalton]

i seriously feel threaten / blackmailed by this email, and the fact that they dont reply to my answer pisses me off too.

In 2013
Femjoy was 1:7000 - 9 Sales / 38 Rebills
Joymii was 1:45.000 - 11 Sales / 9 Rebills
Nutabu i skipped, tour looks like shit to me.

compared with MetArt their ratios are just shit, and lets face it their models are mostly the same, even the locations repeat over and over again, and on top of that most of the vids and stuff are fully tube populated, so they really dont do a lot to help to convert better.

Converting is their job on theTour its not my job, i just sent them traffic.

With well over 500.000 people sent their way in 2013 its unbelievable that they hired this Ruben Retardo which sends out emails like that to people which used to support their biz. I am waiting for a offical apology on that matter for 2 weeks, if nothing comes i pull the plug, cause i dont wanna support retarded people too much, it simply doesnt pay off.

haha - you still alive?

[oil]

haha - you still alive?

sure :D
just not on the Zoo :D

[Colmike9]

I'm really really really sorry about this!!!!!

Please forgive us. That came out all wrong.

As some of you are aware, we have a very international staff and English is not our first language. The email was also sent out a bit accidentally. Some affiliates received the corrected version of that email without the mangled up last paragraph.

To clear things up, your account will not be deactivated.
Your sales will not be scrubbed or shaved or poofed into oblivion.

Many of you have worked with us for nearly decade and we've run one of the most straight, honest programs. That isn't changing.

You can contact me directly if you have any questions: michael [at] femjoy.com

We are currently going through a bit of damage control with this among our staff and I apologize once again for this mistake.

I'm glad it was a mistake. Sorry for being a dick about it.

[Femjoy Michael]

With well over 500.000 people sent their way in 2013 its unbelievable that they hired this Ruben Retardo which sends out emails like that to people which used to support their biz. I am waiting for a offical apology on that matter for 2 weeks, if nothing comes i pull the plug, cause i dont wanna support retarded people too much, it simply doesnt pay off.

You have my official apology Oil.
In your post, you wrote "on that matter for 2 weeks", was there something else we failed to do for you?

I always answer affiliate emails promptly. Please contact me michael [at] femjoy.com with your aff ID. I personally sent out a bunch of emails this year, contacting each of you individually, but all I have are the addresses with the original ccbill registrations, so my email to you, oil, may not have reached your inbox.

Because you are absolutely right, our job is to convert your traffic and we've made some great strides in that regard this year, thanks to the suggestions of our affiliates. We've really tried to make it easier to work with us in the past year, which we couldn't in the past because we were a bit understaffed.

One of our top affiliates recently showed us his stats and our ratios for him, were better than the other art/erotica programs he was promoting through FHGs and custom galleries. So we can definitely work together to improve the ratios for you oil. I used to be an affiliate myself. I know how hard it is and how much the landscape has changed in the past 5 years.

[Femjoy Michael]

I'm glad it was a mistake. Sorry for being a dick about it.

You shouldn't apologize. It was our error. We deserved it. Thank you for being patient mike.

[ctggls]

I've got a similar email BUT one day before this email I received an email from a guy named Alex from Femjoy that wanted to buy an ad space on my blog. So first they want to buy and ad space and the day they want to close my account...
On the other hand their conversions totally suck!

Met-art network: 1:3000-4000 ,
Femjoy: 1:8000-9000
Joymii: 1:15000

Traffic is sent from the same site...

Also their content is bizarre to say the least.. I'm getting emails with promotional material that says "New original content as per 2014-01-17 . I look at the first gallery, I click the model to see more galleries with her and SURPRISE SURPRISE the gallery I received wast listed in October 2010 !!!!!

WTF you're sending content that is 4 years old ?!?!?

[3xmedia]

Also their content is bizarre to say the least.. I'm getting emails with promotional material that says "New original content as per 2014-01-17 . I look at the first gallery, I click the model to see more galleries with her and SURPRISE SURPRISE the gallery I received wast listed in October 2010 !!!!!

WTF you're sending content that is 4 years old ?!?!?

hmm... noticed that as well

[ctggls]

hmm... noticed that as well

Glad it's not just me...

[adultmobile]

Ok so was just a wrong emails sent

http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1131523