'Winter Olympics: Putin cautions gay visitors to Sochi'

[EddyTheDog]

"We don't have a ban on non-traditional sexual relations," he said. "We have a ban on promoting homosexuality and paedophilia among minors."

A lot of athletes have been seeing how it will pan out - It will be interesting to see how this will affect decisions...

If I was an athlete that had been training all my life to go to an Olympics? - It's an incredibly difficult question.....

[Mutt]

If I was an athlete that had been training all my life to go to an Olympics? - It's an incredibly difficult question.....

It would be really dumb to miss the Olympics over one country's law regarding homosexuality in their own country. Short of rounding up gays and gassing them no athlete should miss the Olympics over Putin's policy.

[EddyTheDog]

It would be really dumb to miss the Olympics over one country's law regarding homosexuality in their own country. Short of rounding up gays and gassing them no athlete should miss the Olympics over Putin's policy.

You have drawn your own line in the sand - Gassing Gays - Can you see why gays might have a different line?..

[baggg]

Luckily,the biggest issue in the world right now is that homosexuals cant kiss infront of children in public in russia.Thank fuck all that wars ended and poverty exists no more,so we can focus on what really is important.

[EddyTheDog]

Luckily,the biggest issue in the world right now is that homosexuals cant kiss infront of children in public in russia.Thank fuck all that wars ended and poverty exists no more,so we can focus on what really is important.

[oppoten]

He didn't go any further than what he's said before. He just re-stated the law.

If I was an athlete I'd be more worried about a terrorist attack, which I think is very likely.

[evy97]

Almost all fags are attention whores. Olympics are about sports, not gay propaganda.

[Wellness Cash]

If I was an athlete, I wouldn't be sat at a computer posting on GFY

[Grapesoda]

Almost all fags are attention whores. Olympics are about sports, not gay propaganda.

a bit harsh IMO however, yes the Olympics are not about gay rights... the Olympics are about sports... Russia has every right in the world NOT to want gay propaganda in the media

[CDSmith]

Russia has every right in the world NOT to want gay propaganda in the media

True. Which is why Putin really should just shut his pie hole. Every time he 'restates' this law it brings the whole gay rights thing to the forefront.

[mineistaken]

You have drawn your own line in the sand - Gassing Gays - Can you see why gays might have a different line?..

Nope, because homosexual relations and/or being gay are not forbidden in Russia. As it clearly states in the quote from OP.

[mineistaken]

Almost all fags are attention whores. Olympics are about sports, not gay propaganda.

A bit harsh, but true. Being gay or gay relations are not forbidden in Russia, yet Op is trying to stir the shit. Unless he thinks that gay athlete must go and promote homosexuality in public. But I think gay athletes go there to participate in sports.

[JockoHomo]

Almost all fags are attention whores. Olympics are about sports, not gay propaganda.

Not unlike your mother who is a real whore.

Oh and since you are clearly a moron let me set you straight. The Olympics are about selling merchandise and nothing whatsoever to do with actual sports sport.

[Grapesoda]

True. Which is why Putin really should just shut his pie hole. Every time he 'restates' this law it brings the whole gay rights thing to the forefront.

I don't think Obama will attach Russian to liberate the gays... you never really know though, do ya? the reason Putin does that is because every time he does it makes the USA looking scum to the Middle East. in some cultures, like cultures that have oil, being gay isn't fabulous etc..

[DamianJ]

For the incredibly ignorant stupid cunts posting in this thread, watch this

http://www.vice.com/vice-news/young-...ll-length-vice

and this



It's like apartheid, you don't want to be seen accepting these disgusting times.

And to pretend nothing has changed is laughably naive.

[just a punk]

A lot of athletes have been seeing how it will pan out - It will be interesting to see how this will affect decisions...

If these athletes will not promote homosexuality to children, they'll be ok. You (western people) are screaming too much about nothing.

BTW, in Florida (USA) usual oral sex among two mature people is illegal considered as sodomy. Do you practice oral sex? If yes, would you visit the USA or decide to avoid such an anti-liberal place?

[EddyTheDog]

For the incredibly ignorant stupid cunts posting in this thread, watch this

http://www.vice.com/vice-news/young-...ll-length-vice

and this



It's like apartheid, you don't want to be seen accepting these disgusting times.

And to pretend nothing has changed is laughably naive.

Don't make me start liking you - It's not natural...

[just a punk]

For the incredibly ignorant stupid cunts posting in this thread, watch this

Why should we watch some stupid clown who has no clue about Russian laws? Why don't you suggest us to watch North Korean TV news about life in the USA?

[EddyTheDog]

If these athletes will not promote homosexuality to children, they'll be ok. You (western people) are screaming too much about nothing.

BTW, in Florida (USA) usual oral sex among two mature people is illegal considered as sodomy. Do you practice oral sex? If yes, would you visit the USA or decide to avoid such an anti-liberal place?

Its a throw back law that nobody has bothered overturning - You also can't take your flock of Geese over Tower Bridge in London during Easter - Or something like that...

A very poor argument CyberSEO.....

[just a punk]

Man did you read this law? Did you note any mention of gays there? How could it be anti-gay if it's clearly anti-pedophile one? Why you - Western people think that Russian children should not be protected from promoting non-traditional sex?

[EddyTheDog]

Man did you read this law? Did you note any mention of gays there? How could it be anti-gay if it's clearly anti-pedophile one? Why you - Western people think that Russian children should not be protected from promoting non-traditional sex?

So, Russian children should only be sexually abused by heterosexuals and other 'traditional' methods?..

Think about it for fuck sake.....

[just a punk]

So, Russian children should only be sexually abused by heterosexuals and other 'traditional' methods?..

It's not about abuse. Abuse is a crime and being punished here by a prison time. Please don't try to manipulate with these things.

In school we have a sexual education for children, where they get learned how exactly they were born and how exactly it is related to sex between male and female. Do you consider it wrong?

Now, for fuck sake, tell me why they (the kids) should be promoted to homosexual relations? As I said above, normal (you can call it traditional) sex is a part of human life. They simple can't learn human anatomy without knowing about sex (no sex -> no life).

[DamianJ]

Why should we watch some stupid clown who has no clue about Russian laws? Why don't you suggest us to watch North Korean TV news about life in the USA?

I wouldn't say Vitaly Milonov has "no clue" about Russian law, but he certainly is an utterly ridiculous ignorant homophobic cunt.

If you watched the first one you'd see it is RUSSIAN people explaining how they are getting beaten up by anti-gay groups and the police are ignoring it, etc etc.

But really, don't let the truth change your view about things on your own doorstep, believe the propaganda, comrade.

[seeandsee]

Russia will end rise when Putin resign

[just a punk]

I wouldn't say Vitaly Milonov has "no clue" about Russian law, but he certainly is an utterly ridiculous ignorant homophobic cunt.

He is a well-known lunatic. So what? Do you interview every lunatic in the UK and make it a news? Congrats on that then.

If you watched the first one you'd see it is RUSSIAN people explaining how they are getting beaten up by anti-gay groups and the police are ignoring it, etc etc.

Yes they are. Don't you have homophobics in the UK? Don't they beat gays there? Should I drop here some youtube video on that? How exactly Russian homophobics are related to the mentioned anti-pedophile law?

But really, don't let the truth change your view about things on your own doorstep, believe the propaganda, comrade.

Propaganda is something you live in. I live in Russia and know about the things here from my own eyes and ears. As I told earlier, there is more gay clubs in Moscow and Saint Petersburg than in a whole your country. The mentioned law, has no relation to gays. Furthermore, it never been applied. Yes, while you are crying about "those pure Russian children who you can't promote a male-to-male sex", nobody was fined for that here.

[Grapesoda]

So, Russian children should only be sexually abused by heterosexuals and other 'traditional' methods?..

Think about it for fuck sake.....

Eddy I think the gay agenda has so permeated the western press that what ever you've heard about the Russian laws has been manipulated and distorted to drive an agenda that has nothing to do with truth.. possibility the statues really IS about pedophilia... however it's much more divisive to portray the law as being biased against gays thus pushing the a bigoted hate filled agenda

[oppoten]

Eddy I think the gay agenda has so permeated the western press that what ever you've heard about the Russian laws has been manipulated and distorted to drive an agenda that has nothing to do with truth.. possibility the statues really IS about pedophilia... however it's much more divisive to portray the law as being biased against gays thus pushing the a bigoted hate filled agenda

Exactly.

You have to wonder who's funding the protest groups and giving them airtime.

[directfiesta]

True. Which is why Putin really should just shut his pie hole. Every time he 'restates' this law it brings the whole gay rights thing to the forefront.

AmeriKa are the ones to blame, if his pie hole is open :

ABC News' George Stephanopoulos has landed an interview with Russian president Vladimir Putin in the runup to the Winter Olympics in Sochi.

The "Good Morning America" and "This Week" host traveled to Sochi for the interview. On Friday's "Good Morning America," his co-host Robin Roberts made sure to note that he was the "first American TV journalist" to talk to Putin before the Olympics. ABC's foreign editor Jon Williams tweeted this photo showing Putin with Stephanopoulos:

Beyond being a good scoop, Stephanopoulos's interview is sure to rankle the people at NBC, which is televising the Olympics and which has openly said it is seeking to sit down with Putin. Last week, the network's main Olympics host Bob Costas told reporters that his goal was for Putin to "drag his butt in the studio" so he could be grilled on Russia's controversial anti-gay laws and the security situation in Sochi.

"If he shows up, we?d rather talk to him," Costas added. "Wouldn?t you rather hear it from the horse?s mouth? I would."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_4616240.html

I see your point .... Putin is going around the world on a talk show circuit ....

[mineistaken]

Lets just quote what Putin clearly said once again:

"We don't have a ban on non-traditional sexual relations"

For the ignorant and drama stirring types.

[beerptrol]

So I guess men's figure skating has been canceled!

[TheSquealer]

From the standpoint of evolutionary biology and our innate need to insure the survival of our own genes, that of the group and the survival of a culture and nation... its logical that in order to save a nation who's single largest problem in the last 20 years has been the massive flight of people and declining birth rates, there would be a harsh stance against behaviors which are detrimental to that end.

Behaviors only appear insane to the ignorant and those who make no attempt to understand them.

[EddyTheDog]

From the standpoint of evolutionary biology and our innate need to insure the survival of our own genes, that of the group and the survival of a culture and nation... its logical that in order to save a nation who's single largest problem in the last 20 years has been the massive flight of people and declining birth rates, there would be a harsh stance against behaviors which are detrimental to that end.

Behaviors only appear insane to the ignorant and those who make no attempt to understand them.

How does encouraging an intolerant attitude to homosexuality help the 'survival of a culture and nation'? - People will be gay whether the state approves or not...

[MaDalton]

i did not know you can become homosexual by choice.

[TheSquealer]

How does encouraging an intolerant attitude to homosexuality help the 'survival of a culture and nation'? - People will be gay whether the state approves or not...

I am saying that as people, we are born with a great deal of intolerance to those things which do not serve the purpose of furthering our genes. It's not about a logical argument... its about a set of behaviors that over 10,000,000 years have proven to be many times more correct than wrong.

I am not cruel. I sympathize with anyone having to deal with intolerance and bigotry, however, at some point its also on you for how you feel. People are not what you want them to be... they simply are what they are. So its up to you to deal with it. You can focus on the here and now and the things that make you happy and pursue those things, or you can tell yourself everyday that life is unfair, the world is cruel and people are assholes and that you need to fight to right all the wrongs in the world. Life is short....

"The mind is its own place and in itself, can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven." - John Milton

[mineistaken]

How does encouraging an intolerant attitude to homosexuality help the 'survival of a culture and nation'? - People will be gay whether the state approves or not...

They are against homo propaganda/advertisement, not against gay relations. How many times it should be reminded to you?

[EddyTheDog]

They are against homo propaganda/advertisement, not against gay relations. How many times it should be reminded to you?

They are encouraging an intolerant attitude - Can you not see that?..

[just a punk]

They are against homo propaganda/advertisement

TO UNDERAGE KIDS

P.S. This just should be added

[just a punk]

EddyTheDog, are you going to visit Russia soon and do you have some sexual appetence to our children? I mean if not, you should not be worried about this law, because here you can absolutely free visit gay clubs, advertise homosexual contacts to 18+ guys and even have sex with them (course if they agree). Why are you so disturbed with a civilian law (even-non criminal one) which doesn't allow you to promote homosexual acts to children in Russia. Please explain.

[EddyTheDog]

EddyTheDog, are you going to visit Russia soon and do you have some sexual appetence to our children? I mean if not, you should not be worried about this law, because here you can absolutely free visit gay clubs, advertise homosexual contacts to 18+ guys and even have sex with them (course if they agree). Why are you so disturbed with a civilian law (even-non criminal one) which doesn't allow you to promote homosexual acts to children in Russia. Please explain.

Interesting article...

http://digitaljournal.com/article/357671

There are dozens of videos like that.....

This behavior is being encouraged by government policy - I know that its far from perfect in the US and here in the UK as well - We are discussing Russia because you're in the spotlight due to the Olympics...

We have had this argument before - I will not ignore abuse happening in other countries because of a line on a map.....

[VinceRuth]

Nice post man

[just a punk]

Interesting article...

I just didn't read it. I gave you the exact link to the Russian civilian code (not a stupid article but a document). Did you read it? Why don't you answer to my question then?

[TheSquealer]

Interesting article...

http://digitaljournal.com/article/357671

There are dozens of videos like that.....

This behavior is being encouraged by government policy - I know that its far from perfect in the US and here in the UK as well - We are discussing Russia because you're in the spotlight due to the Olympics...

We have had this argument before - I will not ignore abuse happening in other countries because of a line on a map.....

obviously you dont speak Russian. They beat up a pedophile that was trying to pick up and fuck children.

But then again... why should actual facts matter when its the agenda thats important.

[EddyTheDog]

obviously you dont speak Russian. They beat up a pedophile that was trying to pick up and fuck children.....

That's the whole point of the thread!!!

He was not a pedophile, he was 'just' gay.....

Read the OP again and think about it...

[TheSquealer]

That's the whole point of the thread!!!

He was not a pedophile, he was 'just' gay.....

Read the OP again and think about it...

I am fluent in Russian... I know whats being said in the video. I can read the conversation at the start. He thought he was going to meet a 15 yr old boy for sex.

So who's case are you actually helping? You are defending an adult who wanted to go meet a child for sex.

[TheSquealer]

and by the way... there is a video. You can watch the whole thing. 3-4 guys grabbing this other guy, holding him down and making him explain something on video (in front of witnesses and bystanders). What exactly do you presume is being said or is actually happening?? They were just walking along and all mutually agreed..."This is a random guy who appears to be gay, lets choke him and making him talk into the camera about absolutely nothing"...

[JockoHomo]

That's the whole point of the thread!!!

He was not a pedophile, he was 'just' gay.....

Read the OP again and think about it...

Don't bother trying to use reason and logic with most of the people on this board.

I just come here to have fun and release tension as I have found that is all this place is good for really.

NOW - YOU ALL ENJOY THOSE GAMES!

[Rochard]

Putin doesn't like gays, which means he doesn't like lesbians. And anyone who does't like lesbians is.... Gay.

[TheSquealer]

Don't bother trying to use reason and logic with most of the people on this board.

I just come here to have fun and release tension as I have found that is all this place is good for really.

NOW - ON WITH THE SHOW!

The intro to the video in Russian says "Occupy Pedophilia".. what do you think the video was about? What were they talking about on the video? What do you think they were making him explain on the video? Why do you think bystanders walked up and tried to intervene and then backed down as they explained what was going on?

What is the "reason" or "logic" here? Its a blatant lie about what was actually happening to support a completely unrelated cause.

[mineistaken]

They are encouraging an intolerant attitude - Can you not see that?..

They are merely forbidding to spread gay propaganda to underage kids. How is that bad?
They are not forbidding to be gay.

[EddyTheDog]

Putin doesn't like gays, which means he doesn't like lesbians. And anyone who does't like lesbians is.... Gay.

LOL - Can we leave at that - I am going to have a temper tantrum otherwise and nobody wants to see that...

Thank you Rochard.....