When Rebills exceed Signups - GoFuckYourself.com

FTVGirls · 03-05-2003, 12:20 AM

Is it common for your rebills to eventually exceed your signups? We average 50 signups a day, but our rebills are now exceeding that daily. Perhaps we need more people promoting the site so we can break the 50 signup a day plateau that we've had like forever?

Gutterboy · 03-05-2003, 12:23 AM

You are a porn god

Exxxotica · 03-05-2003, 12:24 AM

50 signups a day??? I see every TGP out there promoting your site.

You guys have an increadible looking site..

WTF arent there more signups that that?

Kimmykim · 03-05-2003, 12:24 AM

Kimmykim · 03-05-2003, 12:24 AM

I'm speechless pretty much.

Exxxotica · 03-05-2003, 12:27 AM

.... or is that a lot?

I realize Im just a mere TGP guy, and 50 signups is a whole lot more than I will ever see... but isnt 50 signups pretty low for a site that has hundreds of galleries and banners posted all over the place?

FTVGirls · 03-05-2003, 12:28 AM

Lagwagon (chris) takes care of the affiliate stuff, I do the actual content & members area. Just that from what I see, I'd like to see more than usual 10,000 unique visitors/day come to our site.

When I hear people sending 50k visitors a day to sites it makes my mouth water....

Exxxotica · 03-05-2003, 12:28 AM

... and I can never tell if Kimmy is being sarcastic or not.

Kimmykim · 03-05-2003, 12:29 AM

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Originally posted by Exxxotica
... and I can never tell if Kimmy is being sarcastic or not.

Do the math.

stocktrader23 · 03-05-2003, 12:30 AM

Yes 50 a day sounds low as shit. Shocking to me.

Pornkings · 03-05-2003, 12:30 AM

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Originally posted by FTVGirls
Lagwagon (chris) takes care of the affiliate stuff, I do the actual content & members area. Just that from what I see, I'd like to see more than usual 10,000 unique visitors/day come to our site.

When I hear people sending 50k visitors a day to sites it makes my mouth water....

sure you can get more signups if we swap exit traffic

xxxinnovations · 03-05-2003, 12:31 AM

low to me too

Exxxotica · 03-05-2003, 12:33 AM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim

Do the math.

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But I dont have to be.
If you have deep pockets and sell nuclear rockets
Youre a friend of my family.

Kimmykim · 03-05-2003, 12:33 AM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23
Yes 50 a day sounds low as shit. Shocking to me.

I am NOT talking about how many signups they do a day.

What I am merely doing a piss poor job of pointing out is that if their rebills did NOT exceed their initial joins after a certain point in their sales, no one would be staying very long.

Exxxotica · 03-05-2003, 12:34 AM

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Originally posted by Pornkings

sure you can get more signups if we swap exit traffic

NO DONT DO IT!!!!

playa · 03-05-2003, 12:35 AM

That is the goal for every paysite,, that means your retaining members well

Candyman69 · 03-05-2003, 12:35 AM

most days i send a good 30% of that 50

FTVGirls · 03-05-2003, 12:35 AM

1/10,000 to 1/15,000 uniques a day avg 50 signups, I guess thats a 1/250 or so ratio. Pornkings, exit traffic means if we send you 10,000 exit traffic, you would send 10,000 back?

I've heard that some sites do 1/100 or 1/50 conversions, but I have to see it to believe it. Well, I've done my best to make the site as attractive to browsers as possible in my power.

Exxxotica · 03-05-2003, 12:37 AM

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Originally posted by FTVGirls
1/10,000 to 1/15,000 uniques a day avg 50 signups, I guess thats a 1/250 or so ratio. Pornkings, exit traffic means if we send you 10,000 exit traffic, you would send 10,000 back?

I've heard that some sites do 1/100 or 1/50 conversions, but I have to see it to believe it. Well, I've done my best to make the site as attractive to browsers as possible in my power.

NO DONT DO IT!!!

playa · 03-05-2003, 12:37 AM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim

What I am merely doing a piss poor job of pointing out is that if their rebills did NOT exceed their initial joins after a certain point in their sales, no one would be staying very long.

playa · 03-05-2003, 12:40 AM

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Originally posted by FTVGirls
1/10,000 to 1/15,000 uniques a day avg 50 signups, I guess thats a 1/250 or so ratio. Pornkings, exit traffic means if we send you 10,000 exit traffic, you would send 10,000 back?

chances are your webmaster will stop listing your sites if you add pop ups

just let Lagwagon work on website

Hooper · 03-05-2003, 12:40 AM

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I'm speechless pretty much

pigs have begun flying.
hell has frozen over.

i'm going to consult my swami

Hooper · 03-05-2003, 12:41 AM

ftvgirls.

i always say that .25 rebills per new sale is GREEAT! so if you're making 100 new joins a day and you have 25 rebills a day.. you're on your way to riches! ;-)

twistyneck · 03-05-2003, 12:45 AM

Nice looking site, I'll give you guys a try.

FTVGirls · 03-05-2003, 12:46 AM

Using the GFY vets' wisdom, moving rebills from $19.95 to 29.95, would that significantly drop rebills?

Exxxotica · 03-05-2003, 12:47 AM

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Originally posted by playa

chances are your webmaster will stop listing your sites if you add pop ups

just let Lagwagon work on website

I agree...

you add popups... you are just another site like the Pornkings cookie cutter clones.

Sure adding exits may be seem like a good way to increase your sales... but being most of your traffic is coming in from us mesley TGP guys, you may want to think things over.

FTVGirls · 03-05-2003, 12:50 AM

I'll make sure lagwagon reads this post... he's out partying so I reared my ugly head into GFY tonight.

Our other way of getting traffic is doing members' section exchange of goodies, like we have with explicite.com .

Pornkings · 03-05-2003, 12:55 AM

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Originally posted by FTVGirls
1/10,000 to 1/15,000 uniques a day avg 50 signups, I guess thats a 1/250 or so ratio. Pornkings, exit traffic means if we send you 10,000 exit traffic, you would send 10,000 back?

I've heard that some sites do 1/100 or 1/50 conversions, but I have to see it to believe it. Well, I've done my best to make the site as attractive to browsers as possible in my power.

we convert 1/40 on tgp traffic with our Porn4abuck program no bullshit.

and yes I will match whatever you send me.
example I send CEN like 150 sales a day its called the big boys network all the top sponsors swap traffic.
This way if I don't have a certain webmaster in my program i'll still get his traffic of one of the big boys

Pornkings · 03-05-2003, 12:56 AM

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Originally posted by Exxxotica

NO DONT DO IT!!!

why not who are you???

playa · 03-05-2003, 12:57 AM

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Originally posted by Pornkings

This way if I don't have a certain webmaster in my program i'll still get his traffic of one of the big boys

LOL,, good idea,,

i just learned something today

Pornkings · 03-05-2003, 01:01 AM

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Originally posted by FTVGirls
Using the GFY vets' wisdom, moving rebills from $19.95 to 29.95, would that significantly drop rebills?

Not at all trust me we have tried every price point.

just make sure its Like $29.47 since nothing comes out to .99 or .95 because of tax

onther option is $20 or $40 dollars straight up so it looks like a atm withdrawl or fast cash from an atm

both these methods will increase your rebills by about 10%

Exxxotica · 03-05-2003, 01:02 AM

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Originally posted by Pornkings

we convert 1/40 on tgp traffic with our Porn4abuck program no bullshit.

Yeah... Ive seen the inside of your "Porn4abuck program"

That shit is awful.

As for who am I??? I am nobody. I am just Joe Surfer who is sick of shitty paysites.

I am Joe Surfer who is looking for something that lives up to the hype that got me to pull out my credit card.

I am Joe Surfer who decides to try out a membership instead of opening up Kazaa for the evening.

Pornkings · 03-05-2003, 01:05 AM

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Originally posted by Exxxotica

Yeah... Ive seen the inside of your "Porn4abuck program" That shit is awful.

As for who am I??? I am nobody. I am just Joe Surfer who is sick of shitty paysites.

I am Joe Surfer who is looking for something that lives up to the hype that got me to pull out my credit card.

I am Joe Surfer who decides to try out a membership instead of opening up Kazaa for the evening.

trust me we have alot of content you wouldn't have enough time to see it all if you surfed thru it for a month 8 hours a day

thats why we are on all the top sponsors exits because the program is shit you wish you had something to promote

I'd probably crash your hosting if I went with you

Pornwolf · 03-05-2003, 01:07 AM

No Oscar Meyer Bologna in Roger V's fridge, only freshly sliced turkey that costs $8.99 per pound.

Kimmykim · 03-05-2003, 01:08 AM

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Originally posted by Hooper

pigs have begun flying.
hell has frozen over.

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Ok well enough of that.

There is a reason that pop up consoles are used by all the sites doing thousands of joins a day. They work.

With that said you should look into offering both the console and the non console version and letting your affiliates choose, with different pay rates for each, of course.

Pornkings · 03-05-2003, 01:10 AM

I luv to see people post who have no idea what there talking about.

Pornkings · 03-05-2003, 01:15 AM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim

Ok well enough of that.

There is a reason that pop up consoles are used by all the sites doing thousands of joins a day. They work.

With that said you should look into offering both the console and the non console version and letting your affiliates choose, with different pay rates for each, of course.

Yep KK your right
we have a program that only has one exit as well called speedball and it pays $40 per trial
we are also launching a porn4abuck program without exits do to webmasters request.

as far as paysites go we have a site called megaporn which has all our content for $6.95 a month that rebills at $6.95 and it rebills the same as our full price sites with the same content. go figure

PerfectionGirls · 03-05-2003, 01:16 AM

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There is a reason that pop up consoles are used by all the sites doing thousands of joins a day. They work.

Exactly

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With that said you should look into offering both the console and the non console version and letting your affiliates choose, with different pay rates for each, of course.

Exactly Again

If you are not making the best use of ALL your traffic then you just are not being a responsible, bottom line minded webmaster. One thing I have learned is to do my best to capitalize on all my traffic. Give credit to the affiliates your first exit that promotes your sites, then if you cant catch them there.... find sme programs that will. Its just being smart.

Our site cost is 29.95 and we rebill at 29.95 We convert better with the higher rebill for whatever reason.

Kimmykim · 03-05-2003, 01:17 AM

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Originally posted by Pornkings

Yep KK your right
we have a program that only has one exit as well called speedball and it pays $40 per trial
we are also launching a porn4abuck program without exits do to webmasters request.

as far as paysites go we have a site called megaporn which has all our content for $6.95 a month that rebills at $6.95 and it rebills the same as our full price sites with the same content. go figure

Egads Rog, enough with the spamming!

stocktrader23 · 03-05-2003, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornkings

Yep KK your right
we have a program that only has one exit as well called speedball and it pays $40 per trial
we are also launching a porn4abuck program without exits do to webmasters request.

as far as paysites go we have a site called megaporn which has all our content for $6.95 a month that rebills at $6.95 and it rebills the same as our full price sites with the same content. go figure

Thank you for saying that. I've been trying to tell everyone that the price isn't as important as they thing it is but I just get flamed for being an ignorant newbie.

Once again as in any business of a direct sales nature PRICE ISN'T THAT IMPORTANT. Now There is a limit to that but $40 isn't breaking anyones back.

playa · 03-05-2003, 01:19 AM

roger your like a human advertising machine,,
is there anything else you talk about

Hooper · 03-05-2003, 01:21 AM

i'll come back when the conversation gets interesting again.

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did i mention...

QUICK BUCK - $40 SIGNUPS - BETTER THAN ANYBODY - I PROMISE - LETS TRADE TRAFFIC - LETS SWAP TRAFFIC - SEND IT ALL TO ME! ME! ME!

or

QUICK BUCK - $40 SIGNUPS - BETTER THAN ANYBODY - I PROMISE - LETS TRADE TRAFFIC - LETS SWAP TRAFFIC - SEND IT ALL TO ME! ME! ME! ???

Pornkings · 03-05-2003, 01:23 AM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim

Egads Rog, enough with the spamming!

LOL yea but when I try to just get advise or talk biz no one has anything to say. all they do is heckle cause they have no clue they just think they understand
I'm over it....

Plus I need to talk to you about your traffic so when you have time hit me up.
Kiss Kiss

Pornkings · 03-05-2003, 01:25 AM

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Originally posted by playa
roger your like a human advertising machine,,
is there anything else you talk about

All I want to talk about is biz and it doesn't have to be about My programs.

I'm not into the threads about cats and dogs it's kewl but I have no time.
religion and politics I stay away from so what else is there?

Hooper · 03-05-2003, 01:26 AM

yeah. me too.

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Pornkings · 03-05-2003, 01:28 AM

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Originally posted by Hooper
i'll come back when the conversation gets interesting again.

QUICK BUCK - $40 SIGNUPS - BETTER THAN ANYBODY - I PROMISE - LETS TRADE TRAFFIC - LETS SWAP TRAFFIC - SEND IT ALL TO ME! ME! ME!

did i mention...

QUICK BUCK - $40 SIGNUPS - BETTER THAN ANYBODY - I PROMISE - LETS TRADE TRAFFIC - LETS SWAP TRAFFIC - SEND IT ALL TO ME! ME! ME!

or

QUICK BUCK - $40 SIGNUPS - BETTER THAN ANYBODY - I PROMISE - LETS TRADE TRAFFIC - LETS SWAP TRAFFIC - SEND IT ALL TO ME! ME! ME! ???

Then jump in what are your thoughts on this question Hooper

Originally posted by FTVGirls
Using the GFY vets' wisdom, moving rebills from $19.95 to 29.95, would that significantly drop rebills?

Wiseman · 03-05-2003, 01:31 AM

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Originally posted by Hooper
yeah. me too.

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OMG Hooper that is a little Outa controll dont you think CMon!!! What I think you meant to say was!!!

QUICK BUCK - $40 SIGNUPS - BETTER THAN ANYBODY - I PROMISE - LETS TRADE TRAFFIC - LETS SWAP TRAFFIC - SEND IT ALL TO ME! ME! ME!

OR MAYBE!!!!!!!
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or OH I DONT KNOW MAYBE THIS!!!!!

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Pornwolf · 03-05-2003, 01:32 AM

Let me throw in a question (in hopes this thread stays semi-serious).

Has anyone successfully gone over the $40 mark. I know some of the paysites tied into the free avs systems are around $49.95 like http://www.sexgiant.com

Is that a viable price point?

picindex · 03-05-2003, 01:33 AM

holy jesus... who is the girl on your main page?!???

Wiseman · 03-05-2003, 01:36 AM

But Fuck Roger since we are all about buisness!!! Dump some of that exit traffic on us man!!!

03-05-2003, 12:20 AM	#1
FTVGirls So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,052	When Rebills exceed Signups Is it common for your rebills to eventually exceed your signups? We average 50 signups a day, but our rebills are now exceeding that daily. Perhaps we need more people promoting the site so we can break the 50 signup a day plateau that we've had like forever?

03-05-2003, 12:24 AM	#3
Exxxotica Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Oregun Posts: 4,396	50 signups a day??? I see every TGP out there promoting your site. You guys have an increadible looking site.. WTF arent there more signups that that? __________________ Needs some really great hosting? Black Seven note: I do not work for Blackseven... Im just grateful for their kick ass hosting...so quit bothering them when I hurt your feelings... pussy

03-05-2003, 12:24 AM	#4
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Wow.

03-05-2003, 12:27 AM	#6
Exxxotica Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Oregun Posts: 4,396	.... or is that a lot? I realize Im just a mere TGP guy, and 50 signups is a whole lot more than I will ever see... but isnt 50 signups pretty low for a site that has hundreds of galleries and banners posted all over the place? __________________ Needs some really great hosting? Black Seven note: I do not work for Blackseven... Im just grateful for their kick ass hosting...so quit bothering them when I hurt your feelings... pussy

03-05-2003, 12:28 AM	#8
Exxxotica Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Oregun Posts: 4,396	... and I can never tell if Kimmy is being sarcastic or not. __________________ Needs some really great hosting? Black Seven note: I do not work for Blackseven... Im just grateful for their kick ass hosting...so quit bothering them when I hurt your feelings... pussy

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Hooper Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: A Free America Posts: 2,210	ftvgirls. i always say that .25 rebills per new sale is GREEAT! so if you're making 100 new joins a day and you have 25 rebills a day.. you're on your way to riches! ;-) __________________ <a href="http://www.adultplatinum.com/"><img src="http://www.adult.com/wmbanners/10dcash-468x60.gif"></a>

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twistyneck So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hanging by the neck until dead. Posts: 4,660	Nice looking site, I'll give you guys a try.

03-05-2003, 12:46 AM	#25
FTVGirls So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,052	Using the GFY vets' wisdom, moving rebills from $19.95 to 29.95, would that significantly drop rebills?

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FTVGirls So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,052	I'll make sure lagwagon reads this post... he's out partying so I reared my ugly head into GFY tonight. Our other way of getting traffic is doing members' section exchange of goodies, like we have with explicite.com .

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playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	roger your like a human advertising machine,, is there anything else you talk about

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Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	Let me throw in a question (in hopes this thread stays semi-serious). Has anyone successfully gone over the $40 mark. I know some of the paysites tied into the free avs systems are around $49.95 like http://www.sexgiant.com Is that a viable price point? __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

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