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Pornkings · 03-05-2003, 01:36 AM

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Originally posted by Pornwolf
Let me throw in a question (in hopes this thread stays semi-serious).

Has anyone successfully gone over the $40 mark. I know some of the paysites tied into the free avs systems are around $49.95 like http://www.sexgiant.com

Is that a viable price point?

I don't know of any sponsors except Sex hit who had over $40

I'm sure anything would rebill the same after the $30 mark

I think webmasters would complain more about it then surfers would.
or I should say surfers who think there webmasters

playa · 03-05-2003, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornwolf
Let me throw in a question (in hopes this thread stays semi-serious).

Has anyone successfully gone over the $40 mark. I know some of the paysites tied into the free avs systems are around $49.95 like http://www.sexgiant.com

Is that a viable price point?

49.95 is pretty high but i have seen it before

FTVGirls · 03-05-2003, 01:36 AM

You mean Rowena?

Anyways, before this post went spam heaven, I learned one thing, to perhaps set up a charge other than *.95 Eg. bumping up the price to $29 and not $29.95.

I'll talk to lagwagon about that. I hope to up the price for signups in about a month.

Pornkings · 03-05-2003, 01:38 AM

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Originally posted by THE WISEMAN
But Fuck Roger since we are all about buisness!!! Dump some of that exit traffic on us man!!!

Is that suppose to say Butt fuck Roger?

picindex · 03-05-2003, 01:39 AM

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Originally posted by FTVGirls
You mean Rowena?

is that the girl on the main page? do you have allot of content with her in it? selling any?

stevo · 03-05-2003, 01:41 AM

Damn, thats a pretty good signup ratio... Is that 10,000 visitors to your home page or your join page? Either way its still pretty sweet. I love your welcome.html! As for rebills exceeding signups thats a good thing! Rebills is where the good money comes from

Wiseman · 03-05-2003, 01:41 AM

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
I guess if you want it to Roger.........?

AmeliaG · 03-05-2003, 01:43 AM

I agree that it has a lot to do with the appeal of the content. I know I am more likely to spend $200 on a skirt I really like than $20 on one that is decent but nothing special. If you charge a little more, you may be able to provide more for your surfers. We have way more content than anyone else in our niche and I've been kicking around the idea of raising our prices by about the same amount you are talking about. Hard decision though. Especially, if you have a lot of rebilling people, I worry about alienating them by jumping the price around.

I hadn't seen your site before. Tour looks pretty. I'm going to go check out your program.

--Amelia G

FTVGirls · 03-05-2003, 01:44 AM

I have a hidden counter that tracks uniques that come to the mainpage. And we average about 10,000-15,000 on that. Im not sure how many finally do end up at the join page, but I would presume a lot less.

About selling content, I thought once the site is a year old, we would start selling some of our content. But in reality, our site really fired up 3 months ago, so its a pretty new site.

Pornkings · 03-05-2003, 01:46 AM

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Originally posted by Exxxotica

I agree...

you add popups... you are just another site like the Pornkings cookie cutter clones.

Sure adding exits may be seem like a good way to increase your sales... but being most of your traffic is coming in from us mesley TGP guys, you may want to think things over.

Funny... cookie cutter sites have you seen all my sites and the content in all of them? anyway
its easy to buy top spots on all the tgp's and even with exits they will promote you. How do I know because we have tgp webmasters look at the big picture not what a few think.
thats just my

give them all the options

Kimmykim · 03-05-2003, 01:46 AM

It's not purely about how much you can rebill them for... it is about what price point will they make you the most money in the average time they stay.

Pornkings · 03-05-2003, 01:47 AM

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Originally posted by THE WISEMAN
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
I guess if you want it to Roger.........?

lets trade traffic I've been waiting

Hooper · 03-05-2003, 01:48 AM

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Has anyone successfully gone over the $40 mark....

Breaking 40 puts you into higher chargebacks. Doubtful that that avs will be around for long at those rates unless they have got some shit ass amazing content.. you know the kind where you come *before* you start jerkin it ;-)

I dont share the good secrets on the boards though... spent too long learning them myself

kaylacam · 03-05-2003, 01:49 AM

I would LOVE 50 sign ups a day!
lol

Exxxotica · 03-05-2003, 01:58 AM

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Originally posted by Pornkings
I luv to see people post who have no idea what there talking about.

Fuck man, Im too drunk to even deal with this shit right now.

From what I understand, I think I must have pissed you off or something. Too much spam in the bowels tends to make one irritable..... What ever man.

Im not trying to tell or even suggest how you do your business. I know you do a good job at what ever you do. However, I feel that there are different ways to promote different sites. Your almighty way might not always be the ONLY way.

Im just suggesting that (FTV girls) think about why it is that so many webmasters people promote their site? FTV girls is unique... so far... something different.

There is a reason why some of the largest TGP's (yeah yeah yeah... what ever) are pushing this site.

Give us credit on the exit to "pornqueens", and it might actually be a good thing.

Pornkings · 03-05-2003, 02:00 AM

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Originally posted by kaylacam
I would LOVE 50 sign ups a day!
lol

maybe we can work something out like putting your site in our porn4abuck program so our webmasters can promote it. Like we are doing with Sunny Leone and Brittany Andrews

what kind of program do you have? Rev share

Pornkings · 03-05-2003, 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Exxxotica

Fuck man, Im too drunk to even deal with this shit right now.

From what I understand, I think I must have pissed you off or something. Too much spam in the bowels tends to make one irritable..... What ever man.

Im not trying to tell or even suggest how you do your business. I know you do a good job at what ever you do. However, I feel that there are different ways to promote different sites. Your almighty way might not always be the ONLY way.

Im just suggesting that (FTV girls) think about why it is that so many webmasters people promote their site? FTV girls is unique... so far... something different.

There is a reason why some of the largest TGP's (yeah yeah yeah... what ever) are pushing this site.

Give us credit on the exit to "pornqueens", and it might actually be a good thing.

He wanted more sales so I put my

in.

As far as giving credit on exits every program has its way of profiting. we have amazing conversions but we lose money on paying the webmasters on a trial so we try to recoop it from exits.

so we are launching a no exit program with less payout for Porn4abuck.

its all good just send me your traffic LOL

AmeliaG · 03-05-2003, 02:09 AM

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Originally posted by Pornkings

maybe we can work something out like putting your site in our porn4abuck program so our webmasters can promote it. Like we are doing with Sunny Leone and Brittany Andrews

what kind of program do you have? Rev share

That sounds intriguing. How do you plug another webmaster's site into your system? I'm definitely interested in promoting some of our stuff outside of just Gothic traffic.

Pornkings · 03-05-2003, 02:20 AM

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Originally posted by AmeliaG

That sounds intriguing. How do you plug another webmaster's site into your system? I'm definitely interested in promoting some of our stuff outside of just Gothic traffic.

Wow just checked out your sites i like them alot.
hit me up on ICQ tomorrow and we can work something out.
you can't lose traffic or sales from doing it. its just the Porn4abuck deal converts amazing

Its just another site our webmasters can push on Porn4abuck.
traffic you would never get to begin with.

and I'm only doing this for a few sites but I really like what you have.

My ICQ 161759738

Hooper · 03-05-2003, 02:23 AM

hey roger..

i keep typing in http:/www.porn4abuck.com since i assume thats your web site and nothing comes up cept for some banner ads

(((

Pornkings · 03-05-2003, 02:25 AM

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Originally posted by Hooper
hey roger..

i keep typing in http:/www.porn4abuck.com since i assume thats your web site and nothing comes up cept for some banner ads (((

hoop Its on www.pornkings.com under programs

we used to have all our programs seperate now we have them all under one name pornkings. It only requires one user and pass to promote all our programs

lets talk soon its been a while

lagwagon · 03-05-2003, 04:11 AM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim

Ok well enough of that.

There is a reason that pop up consoles are used by all the sites doing thousands of joins a day. They work.

With that said you should look into offering both the console and the non console version and letting your affiliates choose, with different pay rates for each, of course.

<----- "hey thats me", just got in and had a chance to see this crazy thread. kimmy hit it on the head. personally i do not like consoles (i hate them) and dont think that i ever will (extra "whatever $$$"). the guys that want the most for there money can send to a console free page and work together with me coverting THEIR traffic. also i can offer a tour with exits, i am thinking of a 60% payout as well with this, so you could send me the optional tour traffic. i could just want to make money with exits and not on FTVGirls. in this sense i feel that i would be screwing my webmasters.

if you like our content and you want to promote you will make money. i dont want to take away your hard earned traffic with consoles. at the most we will trade in our members video/picture galleries with other paysites and cancelled email promotions.

lagwagon · 03-05-2003, 04:13 AM

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Originally posted by picindex
holy jesus... who is the girl on your main page?!???

lagwagon · 03-05-2003, 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
It's not purely about how much you can rebill them for... it is about what price point will they make you the most money in the average time they stay.

did you get an economics degree?

sweetcuties · 03-05-2003, 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Exxxotica

I agree...

you add popups... you are just another site like the Pornkings cookie cutter clones.

Sure adding exits may be seem like a good way to increase your sales... but being most of your traffic is coming in from us mesley TGP guys, you may want to think things over.

Agreed... you guys have a good site and I see you all over also. I also have a succesful teen site with exclusive content (44 girls) and I don't have exits or popups (never have / never will)... I can't do that to my surfers and/members.

As far as the additional $$, I do good enough with a clean site and I'm very happy with my income

lagwagon · 03-05-2003, 04:20 AM

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Originally posted by Exxxotica

Fuck man, Im too drunk to even deal with this shit right now.

your still not getting my bud light!

remember that old commercial?

corvette · 03-05-2003, 08:03 AM

sift through the infomercials, and you will find that this is a very informative thread...

cybermike · 03-05-2003, 09:07 AM

Ftv is great. Wish there wasnt a problem with the rebills for a month. Rebills are doing good right now for me. Have another contest ;)

goBigtime · 03-05-2003, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FTVGirls
You mean Rowena?

Anyways, before this post went spam heaven, I learned one thing, to perhaps set up a charge other than *.95 Eg. bumping up the price to $29 and not $29.95.

I'll talk to lagwagon about that. I hope to up the price for signups in about a month.

Actually he said you should bump it up to $29.42 or $40 even.
$29.xx to mimic some random item charge, or $40.00 even to look like a ATM cash withdrawl.

But I would think $29.00 even would stand out like a sore thumb.

DarkJedi · 03-05-2003, 09:59 AM

you got a nice SE spam going http://ftvgirls.com/page/

Jer · 03-05-2003, 09:59 AM

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Originally posted by picindex
holy jesus... who is the girl on your main page?!???

She's a fucking A+++++++++++++++++++ girl !

javok · 03-05-2003, 10:23 AM

There are sites making 2000 daily signups out there..
but I am done with 50

Kimmykim · 03-05-2003, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lagwagon

did you get an economics degree?

No silly, I thought I told you the other night I was asked to 'either go to summer school or don't come back' when I was in college ;)

Dax · 03-05-2003, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by javok
There are sites making 2000 daily signups out there..
but I am done with 50

So are you telling me that, my 5 sign ups a day are not all that?

iwantchixx · 03-05-2003, 02:56 PM

I know I have no stance to prove my statements but it might be worth looking into.

You tour pages should really be updated soon. With all the new content you guys have been getting lately the quality is way up there. But your tour still reflects the old content (low quality). The new content you have is kickass and more proffesional looking. When ppl see these nice pics in galleries they expect to see more like that. Then they go to the tour and think "what the fuck, this is not what i expected" then leave. As for those who rebill, that could mostly be due to the same concept but on a reverse roll. There are still thousands of ppl using the older content and older hosted galleries which are all low quality and very amateurish. The surfers who are into that click through, like the amateurish tour and then get into the members area and see the newer high quality porn flooding out their amateurish stuff they like then they leave.

I may be wrong, or I may be reading more into it than I should. but thats how I see it as a surfer. As a webmaster i just see it as "buy a fuckign membership you scum bag freeloader or die now!"

mrthumbs · 03-05-2003, 02:59 PM

lagwagon · 03-05-2003, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim

No silly, I thought I told you the other night I was asked to 'either go to summer school or don't come back' when I was in college ;)

oh i dont remember that. i got lit up pretty fast at sugar daddys.

Mutt · 03-05-2003, 03:14 PM

huh? FTV Girls content is too amateurish? I dunno as far as porn goes it's about as far from amateur porn as u can get, it's styled to look like a mainstream fashion magazine, the pics are shot that way too. I do think somebody did a real bad job at compressing the tour pix.

Bake · 03-05-2003, 04:04 PM

Lagwagon (chris) takes care of the affiliate stuff, I do the actual content & members area. Just that from what I see, I'd like to see more than usual 10,000 unique visitors/day come to our site.

Im sending this much somedays ? I love this programe it sells very easy for me the content is awsome and I like the tour the way it is because its working. Im not sure I would like you to add popups on the exit's I know for fact that some come back a second time and then buy.

pine · 03-05-2003, 04:20 PM

*sigh*

schilli · 03-05-2003, 10:08 PM

I'd give my left nut for 50 signups a day!

oscer · 03-05-2003, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FTVGirls
Is it common for your rebills to eventually exceed your signups? We average 50 signups a day, but our rebills are now exceeding that daily. Perhaps we need more people promoting the site so we can break the 50 signup a day plateau that we've had like forever?

How well is it converting ???

looloo · 03-05-2003, 10:38 PM

hey fvtgirls

hit me up on icq i've a good question for ya

thanx a bunch

Shaggy · 03-05-2003, 11:49 PM

Yes that's normal and that is the point of the whole mission. Good job.

lagwagon · 03-06-2003, 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by looloo
hey fvtgirls hit me up on icq i've a good question for ya

thanx a bunch

you have nothing in your profile for me to hit up.

my icq 167179530
thanks
chris

03-05-2003, 01:41 AM	#56
stevo Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 2,051	Damn, thats a pretty good signup ratio... Is that 10,000 visitors to your home page or your join page? Either way its still pretty sweet. I love your welcome.html! As for rebills exceeding signups thats a good thing! Rebills is where the good money comes from Last edited by stevo; 03-05-2003 at 01:43 AM..

03-05-2003, 01:41 AM	#57
Wiseman Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,990	HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA I guess if you want it to Roger.........? __________________ []E-mail: [email protected][]ICQ: 109726012[*]AIM: QbWiseman

03-05-2003, 01:43 AM	#58
AmeliaG Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 10,567	I agree that it has a lot to do with the appeal of the content. I know I am more likely to spend $200 on a skirt I really like than $20 on one that is decent but nothing special. If you charge a little more, you may be able to provide more for your surfers. We have way more content than anyone else in our niche and I've been kicking around the idea of raising our prices by about the same amount you are talking about. Hard decision though. Especially, if you have a lot of rebilling people, I worry about alienating them by jumping the price around. I hadn't seen your site before. Tour looks pretty. I'm going to go check out your program. --Amelia G __________________ GFY Hall of Famer AltStar Hall of Famer Blue Blood's SpookyCash.com Babe photography portfolio

03-05-2003, 01:49 AM	#64
kaylacam Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Less camgirl than porn chickie...conveniently located in Porn Central. Posts: 2,745	I would LOVE 50 sign ups a day! lol __________________ SPANK! Kayla Quinn http://www.TushyCash.com

03-05-2003, 02:23 AM	#70
Hooper Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: A Free America Posts: 2,210	hey roger.. i keep typing in http:/www.porn4abuck.com since i assume thats your web site and nothing comes up cept for some banner ads ((( __________________ <a href="http://www.adultplatinum.com/"><img src="http://www.adult.com/wmbanners/10dcash-468x60.gif"></a>

03-05-2003, 01:36 AM	#53
FTVGirls So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,052	You mean Rowena? Anyways, before this post went spam heaven, I learned one thing, to perhaps set up a charge other than *.95 Eg. bumping up the price to $29 and not $29.95. I'll talk to lagwagon about that. I hope to up the price for signups in about a month.

03-05-2003, 01:44 AM	#59
FTVGirls So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,052	I have a hidden counter that tracks uniques that come to the mainpage. And we average about 10,000-15,000 on that. Im not sure how many finally do end up at the join page, but I would presume a lot less. About selling content, I thought once the site is a year old, we would start selling some of our content. But in reality, our site really fired up 3 months ago, so its a pretty new site.

03-05-2003, 01:46 AM	#61
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	It's not purely about how much you can rebill them for... it is about what price point will they make you the most money in the average time they stay.

03-05-2003, 08:03 AM	#77
corvette Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: scottsdale Posts: 7,880	sift through the infomercials, and you will find that this is a very informative thread... __________________ If you need a good company for check writing services, then check out checkissuing, and for webhosting, check out Phoenix NAP

03-05-2003, 09:07 AM	#78
cybermike Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ny Posts: 4,113	Ftv is great. Wish there wasnt a problem with the rebills for a month. Rebills are doing good right now for me. Have another contest ;)

03-05-2003, 09:59 AM	#80
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	you got a nice SE spam going http://ftvgirls.com/page/

03-05-2003, 10:23 AM	#82
javok Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Montevideo, Uruguay Posts: 708	There are sites making 2000 daily signups out there.. but I am done with 50

03-05-2003, 02:56 PM	#85
iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	I know I have no stance to prove my statements but it might be worth looking into. You tour pages should really be updated soon. With all the new content you guys have been getting lately the quality is way up there. But your tour still reflects the old content (low quality). The new content you have is kickass and more proffesional looking. When ppl see these nice pics in galleries they expect to see more like that. Then they go to the tour and think "what the fuck, this is not what i expected" then leave. As for those who rebill, that could mostly be due to the same concept but on a reverse roll. There are still thousands of ppl using the older content and older hosted galleries which are all low quality and very amateurish. The surfers who are into that click through, like the amateurish tour and then get into the members area and see the newer high quality porn flooding out their amateurish stuff they like then they leave. I may be wrong, or I may be reading more into it than I should. but thats how I see it as a surfer. As a webmaster i just see it as "buy a fuckign membership you scum bag freeloader or die now!"

03-05-2003, 02:59 PM	#86
mrthumbs salad tossing sig guy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: mrthumbs*gmail.com Posts: 11,702	hmm

03-05-2003, 03:14 PM	#88
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	huh? FTV Girls content is too amateurish? I dunno as far as porn goes it's about as far from amateur porn as u can get, it's styled to look like a mainstream fashion magazine, the pics are shot that way too. I do think somebody did a real bad job at compressing the tour pix. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

03-05-2003, 04:04 PM	#89
Bake Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Outback of bumfuck Aussie Posts: 5,270	Lagwagon (chris) takes care of the affiliate stuff, I do the actual content & members area. Just that from what I see, I'd like to see more than usual 10,000 unique visitors/day come to our site. Im sending this much somedays ? I love this programe it sells very easy for me the content is awsome and I like the tour the way it is because its working. Im not sure I would like you to add popups on the exit's I know for fact that some come back a second time and then buy. __________________ Buy great domains from drunken burned out old webmaster CHEAP bullseyeporn.com art-met.com and more. Learn how to make a easy extra $500 per week

03-05-2003, 04:20 PM	#90
pine Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Falls, eh Posts: 1,373	sigh

03-05-2003, 10:08 PM	#91
schilli Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 265	I'd give my left nut for 50 signups a day!

03-05-2003, 10:38 PM	#93
looloo Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: canada Posts: 100	hey fvtgirls hit me up on icq i've a good question for ya thanx a bunch

03-05-2003, 11:49 PM	#94
Shaggy Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: USA Posts: 570	Yes that's normal and that is the point of the whole mission. Good job.