lets talk marijuana economics

fucking banks dont want marijuana money, yeah right

Actually having some success in the songwriting game finally. Moving end of this month or possibly early part of March to Colorado. I developed Graves disease over the last 4 years or so. Cannabis completely fixes the issue and I have some good ties into the Cannabis industry out there. I've been a Cannabis advocate loudly and outspokenly for the last 3 or 4 years now as well. Doing more mainstream these days. Little adult here and there. I may shoot some content again once I get moved out there and situated. I learned over the years thanks to Gfy to keep my biz stuff to myself. ;) But ya doing well and about to start a new adventure.

Sorry to hear about your Graves disease diagnosis. I also have autoimmune issues, and cannabis certainly helps me with the symptoms.

From what I've read, cannabis can treat Graves' symptoms, but is not known to actually be a cure for the disease:



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Last study on it was in 1984. I wouldn't say it is a cure since if I stop using cannabis all the symptoms come back in about 3 days. What I believe it does however is that it somehow allows the thyroid to properly regulate the thyroxine. There is no masking the feeling I get when I start to feel the over production of it. When I'm medicated I don't feel it at all. It is on the list for most medical states to be approved for.

Everyone has slightly different symptoms with Graves as well. My worst thing is trembling and shaking hands. It is so bad I thought I had Parkinsons for about 3 months before I found out what it is. My grandmother has it as well but she chose to have hers radiated out. Not for me no way. lol I was breaking a few glasses a week my hands were so bad. On top of that it ramps up anxiety like to a stupid amount. Then of course insomnia as well. Then when I go more than like 4 days without it my skin starts to feel wind burnt like I'd rolled around in the snow naked for 20 minutes and came in a hot house.

Just totally makes me a wreck and my health starts to spiral. The insomnia and stress from anxiety also makes me have no appetite. So I get almost a wasting syndrome going on. With cannabis I'm right at my weight I should be, I can still play guitar and piano, and I don't shake or tremble even a small amount. Been awhile now since I got like that as I make sure I don't run out anymore. Can't wait to get out to CO and start my indoor garden and be out there all legal like. Phew.

Anywho I've been talking to a few people that are trying to get some interest in new studies for Graves and hopefully with all that is going on it will get some interest soon as Government grants are allowed. There is no stopping it all now though. This is an amazing interesting time for Cannabis that is for sure.

Pretty messed up disease - good luck...

Perhaps you can volunteer for a study (get treatment and help science while getting free cannabis).



I honestly never thought I would see the day when cannabis would be legalized in any State, so I am quite heartened about the changes to laws in many States, and now I feel it may only be a matter of time until cannabis is made legal nationally, especially as the States which have already legalized start realizing some of the benefits of legal cannabis, and the fears that some had will prove to be unfounded.



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Red states going legal? maybe in a 100 years. Thats how long it took them to get over slavery.

Haha you are completely wrong dude. We are looking at 5 years or less 50 state legal. I don't think people understand exactly how fast this is going to start moving.

We are going to see about 12 full legal states in 2 to 3 years from now. Once we get to 12 you'll see within 2 years every state rushing to not be the last state to be considered the most backwards.. For example I believe Utah was the last to drop its local prohibition against alcohol. No one wants to be Utah this time around.

There is an open HUGE revenue stream now available for any state that wants it. Now that the Feds are mostly leaving CO and WA alone it is game on. Expect to see an amazing change in opinions of politicians in states that are polling high for Cannabis legalization. Watch and see. Worldwide legalization or at least majority in 10 or less.

There really is no stopping it now. I haven't been able to go to the City council meeting for the areas in CO I'm looking at moving to, but I have watched the web broadcast for most. This is going to move really... really fast. Even states like GA and AL have Bills in the works. No stopping it now.

Ya my symptoms aren't nearly as bad as hers. I had a friend when I was a senior who's brother had it like that with the bulging eyes. With cannabis you'd never know I had any medical issues.

Though it could get worse for sure someday, but I'm not too worried about it. I'll be growing out there and will be eligible for 12 plants. 6 for medical and 6 recreational. I know what I'm doing there so will be nice to be out there legally growing and maintaining my own supply. Limited in non legal states on availability of strains. Lot here but I need to really have a morning strain, afternoon strain, and nighttime strain. lol

I'll also be juicing and putting myself on a regiment of cannabis oil daily. I have a fairly strong belief that Cannabis should of always been part of our dietary makeup Anyone that studies our endocannabinoid system in our bodies and how cannabis works with that like a key in a lock should start to see some very interesting things.

Too bad Franck isn't around anymore to bitch about that fuckin "miracle plant". muahaha. ;)

So 48 other states will clamor for pot cash, just because colorado is. Those red states, who are still fighting the abortion wars, are gonna see the money & just go 180 degrees on a federal schedule 1 narcotic.

Maybe those red states will legalize casinos & hookers too, cause hey, look at the money.

WA & CO only passed their laws via the initiative process, not through their politicians, cause their politicians would never pass such a thing.

& neither will red states, & neither will The US congress. Be happy that 1 state is legal & the Feds are letting it happen. That is enough of a miracle.

haha dude I've been a Cannabis advocate for 4 or 5 years now. I'm as on top of this as most anyone. Trust me there are already bills pending. You are going to see a WHOLE lot of politicians saying how they are pro cannabis legalization. 5 years or less.

Vermont is likely the next legal state. NY 2 days ago started pushing to get their medical program up and running as well. 12 states in 2 to 3 years and after that it will be a flurry of states rushing.

If you were on top of the daily feed of news coming through you'd think differently.

There are 14 or 15 with bills already pending for adult legalization.

http://www.mpp.org/legislation/marij...orm-bills.html

this is exactly how the system is designed- government of the people by the people for the people.

ballot initiative

A process of a participatory democracy that empowers the people to propose legislation and to enact or reject the laws at the polls independent of the lawmaking power of the governing body.

The purpose of an initiative, which is a type of election commenced and carried out by the people, is to permit the electorate to resolve questions where their elected representatives fail to do so or refuse to proceed with a change that the public desires.

Colorado has had legal pot now for a long time (MMJ). There are dispensaries everywhere, on my way in to work downtown I pass three on a 2 mile stretch after getting off the highway before getting to the office. Recreational is really no different than MMJ, it's just going to take some time for places to finish going through all the hoops of a retail license. There were only 20 or so retail shops that were able to sell on Jan 1, and they're reporting they made $1,000,000 in sales on the first day between them. It is definitely going to be a huge industry.

I was finally able to get into a store and buy some on Saturday. I swung by places wed-fri but every single one had massive lines and I didn't want to wait. I don't even smoke but just wanted to go buy some to be apart of it and experience it. Saturday I was downtown for the Avalanche game and there was a big snow storm - so after the game we walked over to a shop that was pretty close to see if there was a line (and there wasn't). It was actually a disappointment from what I had been expecting. I had been imagining walking into a room with glass shelves everywhere and weed all over the place, with people behind the counter that were going to give me all sorts of ridiculous details about each strain they had. However the places have been so overrun with people the experience was far different.

Basically we walked into a room and had to go stand in line at one desk on the right side of the room. This was the ID check line, and the girl there was checking IDs and giving a ticket to those who were valid. From there you could relax in the room or go wait in the other line, which was a line into the "weed room". Once into the weed room there were just two lines going towards the back of the room, first you got into the right line which went to the weed table. At the weed table they had about 12 big glass jars each with their own strain in them - you told one of the people at this table which strains you wanted and how much. Those people started to package up what you asked for and told you to head back to the other line. The other line was the purchase line, and once you got to the front of it they had your purchase ready and took your money. We bought an 8th of "Purple Trainwreck" for $60 - which is very expensive. We picked that one cause it was literally bluish-purple compared to all the other stuff. Because there are so few retail shops open right now they know they can get away with the high prices - specially because there are people like me just buying it for the novelty of it. Once more places open up and there is more supply to meet demand the prices will subside to what they were with MMJ and you'll be able to get better deals than on the street.

I've seen pictures of MMJ dispensaries and was absolutely excited to have a "New Amsterdam" type of experience, however this was not that. It could have simply been the place I ended up going to, but it also had a lot to do with the fact that the few places that actually have a retail license have been utterly swarmed with customers. Again, I don't even smoke but I think it's really cool what our state is doing - it's a huge progressive step forward in civil liberties - something we rarely get to see from our government. And the amount of revenue this is going to bring in will just be astounding.

Yes. but pending bills does not equal passed laws. & i'm not saying blue states wont legalize someday soon.

I am saying instead, that red states are ass backwards. they wont extend medicaid to their own poor people, on principle. They love guns & cops, & i dont see them changing course until Congress changes the status of THC on the federal level.

I think my hundred years prediction on red america is more likely than those states legalizing in 5 years.

just IMO.

yep. however only 24 states of the union have the initiative process. So 26 states will require their politicians to support legalization. & we all know how receptive politicians are to the public (AKA the cop lobby will have more pull than public opinion - pot is unlikely to be a leading issue in elections anyway)

The only way i see national legalization is thru Congress legalizing. Keep in mind whats happening is completely illegal under federalism. Should the laws of CO or WA actually be opposed by another president, the justice dept can ask the federal courts to issue an opinion on whether federal law or state law prevails on marijuana. guess what would happen.

i believe there is no question as to the size of the industry related to demand. in addition to the 10s of billions per year going legit, legalization will also add new customers to the mix.

but the supply side looks like it could limit the size of growth. Think about the number of regs wholesale growers have to abide. Think about the massive tax rates the public has to pay. seems to me the black market still has competitive advantages in the market relative to these 2 matters, even in the long run.

then there is the matter of banks not allowing marijuana business (for now,) large pools of cash are very attractive targets for cartels & mafias to send out goons & grab that cash from law abiding entrepreneurs.