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baddog 01-06-2014 10:41 AM

Thanks, the photog said it was a Plymouth but did not know the type.

Vendzilla 01-06-2014 10:46 AM

Too bad the prowler didn't have a small block V8 in it, damn it would have really kicked ass then

mineistaken 01-06-2014 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 19934995)
it's totally pointless to discuss whether a car does 3, 4 or 5 secs from 0-60 in a country where you can't go faster than 65 anyways

Why not? In this case they were speaking about quick start till next red light. And its not necessary to race till 65mph, you can race till 45 mph. Just a quick start, no need to reach speed limit. You can enjoy acceleration fine without overspeeding.

Choopa Phil 01-06-2014 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19935095)
Why not? In this case they were speaking about quick start till next red light. And its not necessary to race till 65mph, you can race till 45 mph. Just a quick start, no need to reach speed limit. You can enjoy acceleration fine without overspeeding.

its still illegal to "accelerate fast" or you can still get ticketed for it rather. Its called careless driving.

theking 01-06-2014 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19934423)
Yeah, I love mine. Got it brand new in 2002 (last year made).

They are built by hand. Only around 11,000 of them ever made.

It's true it has a V6 engine, but it hauls ass. The car is aluminum and weighs next to nothing. I've had mine at 150mph before and it felt like it was going to lift up off the ground!

I actually outran my ex-biz partner's Viper redlight to redlight (though if we had went much further the Viper would have eaten me alive)

All in all it's a great car to drive and gets more attention and smiles than any other vehicle I ever owned.

Sounds like pigshit to me.

theking 01-06-2014 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 19935128)
its still illegal to "accelerate fast" or you can still get ticketed for it rather. Its called careless driving.

Yes you can get a ticket for an "exhibition of speed".

Nickatilynx 01-06-2014 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19934797)
A 2002 Prowler has a 0-60 in 5.7 seconds. Yikes, I've owner Mustangs faster than that.

A Viper has a 0-60 time in the 3-4 second range. If you beat your friend in a Viper light to light... He wasn't trying too hard.

Robbie , please.

A guy that worked with me in Vancouver had a yellow one back about 2001. I drove it a few times.
We also had a viper....

I'd say the 5.7 secs quoted for the prowler is a tad...ummm.....optimistic.LOL plus at speed it feels like it floats at the front end, no feel at all.

Viper would destroy it LOL...like embarrassingly so lol

It was a headturner....but really all show no go.

Nickatilynx 01-06-2014 11:48 AM

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/classi...th-prowler.htm

"""Horsepower was 214 for 1997 models and 253 for later versions. Prowlers were quick, with the higher-output cars running from 0-60 mph in about 7 seconds."""

I would say that's about right.

and imho 7 secs to 60 is not that quick...

mineistaken 01-06-2014 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 19935128)
its still illegal to "accelerate fast" or you can still get ticketed for it rather. Its called careless driving.

Not talking about burning tyres fast, merely saying that 0-60 speed is still well in effect when talking about pleasure of driving. Despite any speed limitations which is almost irrelevant to 0-60.

Robbie 01-06-2014 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 19934963)
Please tell us how your car which is electronically speed limited to 126MPH has gotten to 150. Also can you please elaborate on how your 250hp V6 beat a viper...? 0-60 of 5.7 seconds is far from "hauling ass"

The only reason that they were limited to that speed was because of the run flat tires they came with.

I took those off. And had that removed. :)

Also did a few things (exhaust and intake and computer chip manipulation).

So yeah...I went 150 in it. (The U.S. is the only place that was done...guys with Canadian Prowlers bought their Prowlers with no speed throttle and always were able to do 150).

And if you notice what I said...I said my Prowler beat the Viper REDLIGHT TO REDLIGHT.
It was basically a city block. I also specifically said that if we had went any further it would have eaten me up.

When I said it "hauls ass", that's what I meant. Not that it's a fucking race car! LOL!

It's quick off the line and feels great driving. The engine is light, the car is light, it's weight distribution is great.

The problem with real speed is that it's not aerodynamic at all.
But it's not designed for that anyway.

I know some guys with Paxton superchargers and some with nitrous on their Prowlers too. But I think that's just being crazy because as I said the car isn't aerodynamic and isn't made for street racing.

It's just a lot of fun.

For instance: I had a 2007 corvette (sold it a couple of years ago).
I could do 150 mph in that and not feel a thing.

When I did 150 in my Prowler? It was scary as shit! lol

I also had a 1973 MG Midget that had a tiny little 1275 cc motor in it.
BUT... I put a 1.75" SU Carb, a hot electronic ignition, headers, and a supercharger on it.
I got that little beast up real fast. I don't know how fast because the speedometer stopped at 120.

I'm guessing I was doing around 125 mph.

And THAT was definitely "hauling ass". lol
It was exciting and you could feel every bit of the road in that little car sitting a couple of inches off the ground.

That's the kind of thing I was talking about when I said the Prowler "hauls ass".
Trust me, it feels plenty fast when you want to go fast...and it always is fun to drive.

Robbie 01-06-2014 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Wizzo (Post 19934994)
Except that's not the kind of v6 that came in Prowler, it came with one that really underperformed for car that supposed to be a factory built hotrod. :pimp

Nope:

"Prowler has a 3.5 liter high-output SOHC 24-valve aluminum V6 - and for a lot of sound reasons: Packaging of people and roadability being the main ones.

But this free-revving 60-degree design cranks out enough suds (253 horsepower at 6,400 rpm) and yank (255 pound-feet of torque at 3,950 RPM) to get anybody's attention. It has an aluminum block with a forged steel crank bedded in the four main bearings. The heads and pistons are aluminum. It's been dressed-up, and heated-up slightly -- a less restrictive air cleaner, cast stainless steel exhaust manifolds that make tube-type headers look primitive, and EFI linear cam throttle body for surprisingly quick, crisp response"

theking 01-06-2014 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19935176)
The only reason that they were limited to that speed was because of the run flat tires they came with.

I took those off. And had that removed. :)

Also did a few things (exhaust and intake and computer chip manipulation).

So yeah...I went 150 in it. (The U.S. is the only place that was done...guys with Canadian Prowlers bought their Prowlers with no speed throttle and always were able to do 150).

And if you notice what I said...I said my Prowler beat the Viper REDLIGHT TO REDLIGHT.
It was basically a city block. I also specifically said that if we had went any further it would have eaten me up.

When I said it "hauls ass", that's what I meant. Not that it's a fucking race car! LOL!

It's quick off the line and feels great driving. The engine is light, the car is light, it's weight distribution is great.

The problem with real speed is that it's not aerodynamic at all.
But it's not designed for that anyway.

I know some guys with Paxton superchargers and some with nitrous on their Prowlers too. But I think that's just being crazy because as I said the car isn't aerodynamic and isn't made for street racing.

It's just a lot of fun.

For instance: I had a 2007 corvette (sold it a couple of years ago).
I could do 150 mph in that and not feel a thing.

When I did 150 in my Prowler? It was scary as shit! lol

I also had a 1973 MG Midget that had a tiny little 1275 cc motor in it.
BUT... I put a 1.75" SU Carb, a hot electronic ignition, headers, and a supercharger on it.
I got that little beast up real fast. I don't know how fast because the speedometer stopped at 120.

I'm guessing I was doing around 125 mph.

And THAT was definitely "hauling ass". lol
It was exciting and you could feel every bit of the road in that little car sitting a couple of inches off the ground.

That's the kind of thing I was talking about when I said the Prowler "hauls ass".
Trust me, it feels plenty fast when you want to go fast...and it always is fun to drive.

What did you do to the car to overcome it shaking at speeds over 130 miles per hour...or did changing the tires out stop it from shaking?

dyna mo 01-06-2014 12:09 PM

maybe some peeps here are figurin you had c-m and her 2 friends in the car with ya during those speed runs, Robbie

these pups are bound to add a couple seconds!!

http://i2.listal.com/image/2985521/6...udia-marie.jpg

Robbie 01-06-2014 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 19935189)
What did you do to the car to overcome it shaking at speeds over 130 miles per hour?

A bunch of people over at ProwlerOnline have manufactured different parts for The Prowler.

I have quite a few of the ingenuous things they've made.

One of them is the "WonderBar" that replaces the factory stabilizer bar. :)

Plus I've only had the car at speeds over a 100 a couple of times ever.
1. I don't want to get a ticket.

2. I mostly just drive it in town (it's too small for comfort on a long trip on the highway).

theking 01-06-2014 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19935193)
A bunch of people over at ProwlerOnline have manufactured different parts for The Prowler.

I have quite a few of the ingenuous things they've made.

One of them is the "WonderBar" that replaces the factory stabilizer bar. :)

Plus I've only had the car at speeds over a 100 a couple of times ever.
1. I don't want to get a ticket.

2. I mostly just drive it in town (it's too small for comfort on a long trip on the highway).

Even though I have been up to 160 on a highway...our highways in general are not made for those kinds of speed so I normally like to stay well under a 100...plus I too prefer to avoid getting a ticket.

Choopa Phil 01-06-2014 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19935193)
A bunch of people over at ProwlerOnline have manufactured different parts for The Prowler.

I have quite a few of the ingenuous things they've made.

One of them is the "WonderBar" that replaces the factory stabilizer bar. :)

Plus I've only had the car at speeds over a 100 a couple of times ever.
1. I don't want to get a ticket.

2. I mostly just drive it in town (it's too small for comfort on a long trip on the highway).

So how did you get it up to 150 when its governed at 126? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Oh and a stabilizer bar only helps around corners...not for anything high speed related or shaking.

Robbie 01-06-2014 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 19935268)
So how did you get it up to 150 when its governed at 126? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

What are you laughing about?

I already posted that I had that fixed (it's in the chip). :)

I also explained that it only had that governor installed in the U.S. because the run flat tires were only rated for a certain speed.

Folks who bought their Prowler in Canada, for instance, were able to do that fast right off the dealership floor.

What's the deal Phil? If you don't like the Prowler, then don't like it. No need to try and call me a liar. I have no reason to lie on a fucking message board for God's sake. lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 19935268)
Oh and a stabilizer bar only helps around corners...not for anything high speed related or shaking.

Thanks for trying to tell me things about a car that I've owned for over 12 years. I know what I'm talking about on this car. :)

baddog 01-06-2014 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 19934995)
it's totally pointless to discuss whether a car does 3, 4 or 5 secs from 0-60 in a country where you can't go faster than 65 anyways

What country is that?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 19935128)
its still illegal to "accelerate fast" or you can still get ticketed for it rather. Its called careless driving.

Depends on the state you live in; exhibition of speed does not require you to violate any speed limits.

stmadultspy 01-06-2014 01:34 PM

It's a prowler and it's horrible in every way


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