Agreed...all my sites & CMS for the members area are all php driven.
Never an issue. So, you're most likely right about that!

Probably because javascript is visual language and as such is needed for creating games,and making games is far more profitable then anything else.
And here some useful articles:
https://www.udemy.com/blog/best-programming-language/
http://www.sitepoint.com/best-progra...guage-of-2013/

As others said, PHP is most used language today, with a lot of powerful frameworks, huge community, so definitely it is not waste of time to learn it.

As for frameworks, anyone used Fuel?

php will never die, b/c its basically perl who want to be even lazier programmers and
combine their content, presentation, and behavior all into one.

Learn php b/c you will have to work on other peoples trash code at some point in your life.

clearly 80% of the programming world disagrees with me. I dont care. they are trash devs who make trash apps. (yes, there are a few good php apps, but they shouldnt have been php in the first place)

Learn to write in something else for your server side and switch to
server side / content , presentation,and behavior so you can hand shit off to your developer, your html monkey, and your designer. instead of having all 3 idiots trying to collaborate wasting your time.

the main benefit of php was the ability to embed html into your perl code. thats just a mess. learn perl if you want to write php. content should be separated from your software.

dont like perl? fine whatever write in whatever language you want. just remember php without embed is just shitty perl :)

Learn php + mysql and you'll be golden. :thumbsup

sad, but true.

I don't think it's dying. So far it's been the most widely used web language.

You sure?
If you meant Grand Theft Auto, Call of Duty or FIFA it is profitable, that's true but to develop these it cost several million and it is not you doing these games anyway.
About Minecraft yes cool story bro, but that happens as often as a facebook story: it does not happen to you.
I released several games in past 15 years (home computers, mobile phones), and in most cases I ended in loss, also you need to release new games for new platforms every year - much easier to do $$ in adult, at least cams, after site is up, it runs ok for years.
95% of independent game developers end up in loss. Example, average iphone/android game sales (advertising + in-app purchase) makes $500-$1000 for whole game lifetime (a year or 2) - development time well worth more than $1k. Source code of games is for sale for $100-$300 in auction sites. Top sals games spent lots $$ in advertising, the viral thing it is a legend, check there are affiliate networks for web games much like adult (and they use PHP very often).

Well i got that impression based on people who i know and which work as java programmers - they were all doing on games only.But for right answer it would require deeper analysis/research,as while url's which is posted shows job statistic,they dont show exactly what they need java programmers.
And it's not minecraft only game with such success,but again it is possible how it is just media hype ,since i heard a bit toomuch time how some shitty mobile games was sold in million copies and brought a lot of monies to it's creators.

im pretty sure facebook is still actually written in php and ran through hiphop.

there are lots of tools and lots of jobs, some tools can do many jobs and some can only do a few. and many jobs can be solved with many tools, some only one. anyone who would pigeon hole themselves into only using one language and touting its greatness without deep understanding of the others is a fool cutting them self short. yes, you can hammer a screw like a nail, but its not gonna work right, ya know?

php isnt "just perl", php is improved perl. thats why perl is indeed dying and php is still growing. php is very easy to separate concerns, if you want to.

javascript has a lot of hype around it these days, and it cant really be compared to php at all, as its much more extensible. its also what android apps mainly run on, there is node.js, games can be written in it, its also very easy to embed into a system for other types of operations. so consider that when looking at the job ad counts. php = mostly web. JS, not so much anymore.

i think some RoR developers just like to bash PHP because fewer people know Ruby, and to stroke their own egos. but beware, they are backing you into a corner of being forced to use rare programmers with higher costs. i think the main drawback of ruby for me was mentioned above.

also to consider, finding a superstar php programmer is pretty hard, even with the giant talent pool. imagine finding one on the same level in a language thats used 30x less, with a smaller community and lesser documentation to learn from.

point; right tool right job, do the research. if someone trys to sell you something, ask them to prove it, rather then take their word for it.

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bootstrap is the best!!

It's not dieing but ruby is better, if you can learn it do it!

Learn how to be a product manager and get dolphins to make the choice of language and do what they like , even klingon if it makes them happy.