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PornCious · 12-26-2013, 08:54 AM

I don't use PlugRush but saw many webmasters using it. Here is what Team Google has to say about it:

https:// productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/webmasters/nABZTse-uac/discussion (put the https:// and url together)

seeandsee · 12-26-2013, 09:03 AM

any kind of not natural redirects can damage your G rankings...

ITraffic · 12-26-2013, 09:07 AM

matt cutts chimes in as well.

Markul · 12-26-2013, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ITraffic

matt cutts chimes in as well.

I guess you didn't see that video, he doesn't mention plugrush, he explains cloaking.

And this has nothing to do with plugrush specifically, as has been said many times before.

ITraffic · 12-26-2013, 09:16 AM

Matt_Cutts Google Employee

Dec 25 (19 hours ago)

Hmm. Were you using something like PlugRush? You might look into mobile redirects.

ITraffic · 12-26-2013, 09:18 AM

obvious from the thread that google employees believe that the way plugrush does mobile redirects is considered cloaking and thus why plugrush sites are being deindexed.

Markul · 12-26-2013, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ITraffic

Matt_Cutts Google Employee

Dec 25 (19 hours ago)

Hmm. Were you using something like PlugRush? You might look into mobile redirects.

Yea I just saw that, he states that Mobile redirects are bad (well that it should be looked into) - not PlugRush specifically. There are several threads on that topic here.

Blind redirecting mobile traffic or any traffic is high risk, every webmaster should know this. If you have turned off mobile redirects you should be fine.

ITraffic · 12-26-2013, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markul

Yea I just saw that, he states that Mobile redirects are bad (well that it should be looked into) - not PlugRush specifically. There are several threads on that topic here.

Blind redirecting mobile traffic or any traffic is high risk, every webmaster should know this. If you have turned off mobile redirects you should be fine.

JohnMu Google Employee
Dec 25 (22 hours ago)

Hi Dimita

It looks like your site sometimes does a redirect for users, but not for Googlebot. This is considered cloaking, and against our Webmaster Guidelines.

Cheers
John

Markul · 12-26-2013, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ITraffic

JohnMu Google Employee
Dec 25 (22 hours ago)

Hi Dimita

It looks like your site sometimes does a redirect for users, but not for Googlebot. This is considered cloaking, and against our Webmaster Guidelines.

Cheers
John

Yes. As I said. It's about redirection. Not about showing banners from some specific advertisement program.

KevinDevil · 12-26-2013, 09:42 AM

Guess many webmaster have problems with ranking as they use/d mobile redirects...

Why · 12-26-2013, 09:52 AM

it still blows my mind how many people cant follow the basics of SEO, then get upset or cant understand when they get penalized for shit thats been banned for 10 years. cloaking was one of the original blackhat tricks.

that mobile redirect probably made you good money, hope that trade off was worth the loss in rankings now.

ITraffic · 12-26-2013, 10:06 AM

http://www.seroundtable.com/plugrush-google-17875.html

Zeiss · 12-26-2013, 10:09 AM

I have never used their mobile redirect but this seems interesting.

Fat Panda · 12-26-2013, 10:13 AM

anyone with a brain knows plugrush is shit

adultmobile · 12-26-2013, 11:40 AM

Then should apply to all the trafficholder, trafficshop sites, but I see several of these still up in google rank (or not?)

AHarper · 12-26-2013, 11:56 AM

As far as I understood that whole mobile redirect thing correctly, it's not mainly about redirecting mobile surfers...the problem seems to be sending them to a broker and each visitor gets directed to a random different site. Visitor A gets redirected to xxx.com, google bot to yyy.com which is cloaking for G.

Sending all your mobile traffic to ONE mobile optimized site shouldn't be a problem at all.

AHarper · 12-26-2013, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile

Then should apply to all the trafficholder, trafficshop sites, but I see several of these still up in google rank (or not?)

"Matt mentioned "PlugRush" -- which is a widget that adds javascript to your pages. It seems to cloak the sexy pictures that appear on your pages. For example, users like me might see one version (with the sexy pictures) but Googlebot is not shown them. Google wants to see what you're showing me and everyone else who visits the page. You will want to remove the widget from being used and it should stop triggering the cloaking issue."

Are trafficholder, trafficshop and so on work with the same method? Don't know it as I'm not working with them.

In general that would mean, don't use javascript ads as google bot isn't able to access it.

adultmobile · 12-26-2013, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AHarper

Are trafficholder, trafficshop and so on work with the same method? Don't know it as I'm not working with them.
In general that would mean, don't use javascript ads as google bot isn't able to access it.

trafficholder, trafficshop etc. does not use javascript widgets, but if you click link X once brings to site Y, next click to same X brings to site Z then site a, b, c, it is a skimmed blind redirect traffic.

AHarper · 12-26-2013, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile

trafficholder, trafficshop etc. does not use javascript widgets, but if you click link X once brings to site Y, next click to same X brings to site Z then site a, b, c, it is a skimmed blind redirect traffic.

So big G would call it cloaking, too. Another topic in this google forum thread was, don't put too many ads on your site.

In short: Don't sell your mobile traffic, direct them to a mobile optimized site. Don't put scripted ads on your site as the bot can't access it (no more geo ads for example) and preferrably as less ads as possible...otherwise we show more news sites talking about porn instead of your porn sites.

So big G tries everything to decrease our earnings as much as they can. Probably they are sitting on a adsense for adult solution

Klen · 12-26-2013, 04:07 PM

Nop that wont be called cloaking,as both user and google bot will see same eventualy,cloaking would be when user see something what bot doe'snt see in any case.Unless google specifically says how random link is bad that cannot be considered bad.And this would'nt affect just sites which sell blind/skim traffic,it would affect as well all trade powered sites.And many of them stil rank good even overanking nontrading tube sites.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AHarper

So big G would call it cloaking, too. Another topic in this google forum thread was, don't put too many ads on your site.

In short: Don't sell your mobile traffic, direct them to a mobile optimized site. Don't put scripted ads on your site as the bot can't access it (no more geo ads for example) and preferrably as less ads as possible...otherwise we show more news sites talking about porn instead of your porn sites.

So big G tries everything to decrease our earnings as much as they can. Probably they are sitting on a adsense for adult solution

VinceRuth · 12-26-2013, 04:40 PM

Don't use redirects ! Good luck !

CyberHustler · 12-26-2013, 04:41 PM

The only thing that came outta Matts keyboard was:

Quote:

Hmm. Were you using something like PlugRush? You might look into mobile redirects.

Everything else is other people speculating... reading is fundamental my niggas

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ITraffic Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,726	matt cutts chimes in as well.

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ITraffic Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,726	Matt_Cutts Google Employee Dec 25 (19 hours ago) Hmm. Were you using something like PlugRush? You might look into mobile redirects.

12-26-2013, 09:18 AM	#6
ITraffic Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,726	obvious from the thread that google employees believe that the way plugrush does mobile redirects is considered cloaking and thus why plugrush sites are being deindexed.

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KevinDevil Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 28	Guess many webmaster have problems with ranking as they use/d mobile redirects...

12-26-2013, 09:52 AM	#11
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