Canada: Supreme Court strikes down prostitution laws - GoFuckYourself.com

SilentKnight · 12-21-2013, 07:50 AM

A sweeping decision by the Supreme Court of Canada that struck down all of the long-standing Criminal Code provisions dealing with prostitution will not protect society?s most vulnerable, says a local advocate of sex-trade workers.

?I am saddened by this ruling as now the street-level sex trade becomes more dangerous and invisible,? said Deb Nanson, founder of the Sex Trade Task Force of Niagara and program director with Terry?s Evergreen Addiction Recovery Services. ?Street-level women are the most vulnerable.?

In a unanimous decision on Friday, the Supreme Court found that the bans on brothels, communicating for the purposes of prostitution and living off its avails violate the Charter of Rights and Freedoms because they endanger prostitute?s lives.

While the ruling might appear to offer protection to prostitutes, Nanson said, what is written in law books and what is reality are two different things.

?What type of brothel would hire (street-level prostitutes) when the Playboy-type is available,? she said.

?I love the women I work with yet my heart is in fear of how invisible they shall become. They do not have the same protection as others will have.?

In the judgment, Chief Justice Beverley McLachlin wrote, ?It makes no difference that the conduct of pimps and johns is the immediate source of the harms suffered by prostitutes. The impugned laws deprive people engaged in risky, but legal, activity of the means to protect themselves against those risks.?

The ruling is suspended for a year, giving Parliament time to rewrite Canada?s prostitution laws.

?It will be for Parliament, should it choose to do so, to devise a new approach,? wrote McLachlin. ?How prostitution is regulated is a matter of great public concern, and few countries leave it unregulated.?

Justice Minister Peter MacKay said the government is reviewing the decision and ?exploring all possible options to ensure the criminal law continues to address the significant harms that flow from prostitution to communities, those engaged in prostitution, and vulnerable persons.?

Niagara Regional Police Const. Derek Watson on Friday said the service would not be commenting on the landmark ruling at this time.

?We respect the court?s decision and are in the process of reviewing the ruling,? he said,

Glen Walker, executive director of AIDs Niagara, was encouraged by the decision.

?We will be looking towards the upcoming months to see what it may mean to the lives of sex-trade workers in Niagara.?

The decision hands a victory to a team of three women, including Terri Jean Bedford who has said she wants to open a brothel that specializes in painful or humiliating sexual encounters.

They challenged the prostitution laws, arguing that hookers are safest when they can hire security guards and work indoors.

http://www.stcatharinesstandard.ca/2...stitution-laws

Best-In-BC · 12-21-2013, 08:26 AM

Yep, any law that tells people what to do with there own body is in human.

BlackCrayon · 12-21-2013, 08:33 AM

we need to strike down drug laws too. drug dealers are vulnerable persons in society who too often end up as victims of violence.

SilentKnight · 12-21-2013, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

drug dealers are vulnerable persons in society who too often end up as victims of violence.

Boo fucking hoo.

It's called karma.

JFK · 12-21-2013, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Boo fucking hoo.

It's called karma.

I think it may have been sarcasm ?

SilentKnight · 12-21-2013, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Best-In-BC

Yep, any law that tells people what to do with there own body is in human.

I quite agree.

Although, I think they need to have laws in place for mandatory STD and aids testing for all sex trade workers.

Legalizing it is good...but still keep a benevolent eye on things so it doesn't get out of control.

AaronM · 12-21-2013, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

I quite agree.

Although, I think they need to have laws in place for mandatory STD and aids testing for all sex trade workers.

Legalizing it is good...but still keep a benevolent eye on things so it doesn't get out of control.

You've just ignored Copyright law and infringed on the rights of another. See how well most laws work?

SilentKnight · 12-21-2013, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

You've just ignored Copyright law and infringed on the rights of another. See how well most laws work?

The re-posting of a news story complete with backlink is your best case for how laws fail to work?

Really?

geedub · 12-21-2013, 10:27 AM

That model posing as a hooker has nice legs.

The Porn Nerd · 12-21-2013, 10:50 AM

So can I legally fuck hookers in Canada now or not?

SilentKnight · 12-21-2013, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

So can I legally fuck hookers in Canada now or not?

Sure, just clear it with your parents first.

(j'king)

They say it'll be about a year or so before they officially adjust the criminal code with the new changes. Remains to be seen how the cops will deal with it between now and then.

To my understanding (someone correct me if I'm wrong), fucking hookers was already legal - the illegality was 'communicating for the purposes of...' - a bullshit technicality that still made it somewhat illegal (for the johns) to approach a hooker.

The Porn Nerd · 12-21-2013, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Sure, just clear it with your parents first.

(j'king)

They say it'll be about a year or so before they officially adjust the criminal code with the new changes. Remains to be seen how the cops will deal with it between now and then.

To my understanding (someone correct me if I'm wrong), fucking hookers was already legal - the illegality was 'communicating for the purposes of...' - a bullshit technicality that still made it somewhat illegal (for the johns) to approach a hooker.

I did ask but my dad said yes and my mom said no way......LOL

What we need, in Canada AND America, are legal, affordable brothels with monthly testing and very strict work schedules for the workers. Simple.

Ahhhh Germany has it right people.

BlackCrayon · 12-21-2013, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Boo fucking hoo.

It's called karma.

same could be said for prostitutes. they knowingly put themselves in dangerous situations.

my point is if we change laws to prevent those breaking them from being hurt, there are a lot more people who put themselves in harms way other than prostitutes.

this law just made pimps everywhere into businessmen. if this is to go forward it should extremely highly regulated as most people who run such "businesses" view the women as property or goods, not people. this will be a huge boom to the human trafficking industry as well.

JockoHomo · 12-21-2013, 12:53 PM

At least there is one reason to visit Canada now.

SilentKnight · 12-21-2013, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

I did ask but my dad said yes and my mom said no way......LOL

Sounds like a brother from another mutha.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

What we need, in Canada AND America, are legal, affordable brothels with monthly testing and very strict work schedules for the workers. Simple.

Ahhhh Germany has it right people.

Quoted for truth.

Robbie · 12-21-2013, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

very strict work schedules for the workers.

Huh?

Why do they have to have "strict work schedules"???

I don't get it. Yeah, IF I owned a brothel and wanted to make the girls work a "strict work schedule" then fine. But the govt. would decide how many hours they have to work and what time they have to be there?

Sounds like slavery.

I'd say...it's a woman's body. If she wants to charge a man to have sex with her...it's none of the govt.'s business.

2 grown adults having sex. And the govt. THINKS it is supposed to "regulate" it.

Our society is such a nanny state. I hope the govt. remembers to tuck me in tonight and put some milk in by baby bottle for me too. lol

sandman! · 12-21-2013, 01:12 PM

AaronM · 12-21-2013, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

The re-posting of a news story complete with backlink is your best case for how laws fail to work?

Really?

My best case? No, not at all. Just a great example based on this thread.

As a content creator, I would think you would have more respect for the copyrighted works of others.

SilentKnight · 12-21-2013, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

My best case? No, not at all. Just a great example based on this thread.

As a content creator, I would think you would have more respect for the copyrighted works of others.

Aaron - you really want to go there?

More than almost anyone else in this fucking industry, I respect copyright. Always have.

It's a public news story. Quoted for reference. Complete with backlink.

Copyright infringement would represent loss of income for the copyright holder. Do you honestly think I'd be at cause here?

I've grown to somewhat respect you despite our minor differences many moon ago. Give your head a shake and climb down off your high horse. You're grasping at straws to make a ridiculous point.

directfiesta · 12-21-2013, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JFK

I think it may have been sarcasm ?

probably .... but if you read it a second time, you can see the second level ...

directfiesta · 12-21-2013, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

same could be said for prostitutes. they knowingly put themselves in dangerous situations.

so do cops, firemen, etc ....

The Porn Nerd · 12-21-2013, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Huh?

Why do they have to have "strict work schedules"???

I don't get it. Yeah, IF I owned a brothel and wanted to make the girls work a "strict work schedule" then fine. But the govt. would decide how many hours they have to work and what time they have to be there?

Sounds like slavery.

I'd say...it's a woman's body. If she wants to charge a man to have sex with her...it's none of the govt.'s business.

2 grown adults having sex. And the govt. THINKS it is supposed to "regulate" it.

Our society is such a nanny state. I hope the govt. remembers to tuck me in tonight and put some milk in by baby bottle for me too. lol

It's called 'worker safety' man. If a woman wants to fuck fifty guys a day, 30 days a month straight, she is putting herself (and others) at risk, let alone devaluing "the product". LOL

In Germany it's one week on, three weeks off I think. And the sex worker must be tested monthly. They must shower before and after each client, etc etc etc. Besides, as the John, would you want to fuck some slaggy, stretched-out cum dumpster ho? Maybe you would, I dunno. LOL

But I love it when people go "I don't want government regulating me!" as they drive down the highway on a motorcycle with no helmut, drinking a beer, smoking a joint (or whatever). Rebels are fun on tv and in rock and roll but society needs to be protected from idiotic morons. Have you looked around man? I see idiotic morons around me ALL THE TIME so I need Gov't to step in and regulate these wastes of human flesh.

Now, a BALANCE would be ideal. Meaning: for those moronic twits who harm others through their idiocy regulate the fuck out of them fucktards. For others, who can demonstrate some self-control and common sense, less regulation. I know, I live in a dream world. LOL

Anyway, please test and regulate prostitutes, legalize marijuana and outlaw Katy Perry-type "pop". Thank you America.

shake · 12-21-2013, 02:15 PM

Common sense a little more common today, government out of the bedrooms of consenting adults please...

AaronM · 12-21-2013, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Aaron - you really want to go there?

More than almost anyone else in this fucking industry, I respect copyright. Always have.

It's a public news story. Quoted for reference. Complete with backlink.

Copyright infringement would represent loss of income for the copyright holder. Do you honestly think I'd be at cause here?

I've grown to somewhat respect you despite our minor differences many moon ago. Give your head a shake and climb down off your high horse. You're grasping at straws to make a ridiculous point.

First off...Likewise on the respect thing and our past differences.

Not trying to start a fight here and I'm certainly not grasping at straws or trying to make a ridiculous point. This is EXACTLY what copyright laws are in place to prevent. How you can even attempt to argue that is beyond me.

That being said, Yes, I absolutely believe 100% that you posting the entire article here directly effects the income of the copyright holder. I believe this because I own websites where I post articles like this. I rely on the traffic to those sites to generate income. There is no way that you, as a person who works with the online community, can be blind to the fact that traffic = profit. By taking away from that traffic, you are costing them money. Putting a link up doesn't mean jack because we have no reason to click the link since we've already read the article.

Post the first sentence or two or paraphrase the article and post a link...That's fine and would be appreciated by those who own the content. Copying and re-distributing it is illegal and damaging.

AaronM · 12-21-2013, 02:28 PM

[sarcasm]Why can't I post the entire video? I gave a link to the site it belongs to.[/sarcasm]

SilentKnight · 12-21-2013, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM

First off...Likewise on the respect thing and our past differences.

Not trying to start a fight here and I'm certainly not grasping at straws or trying to make a ridiculous point. This is EXACTLY what copyright laws are in place to prevent. How you can even attempt to argue that is beyond me.

That being said, Yes, I absolutely believe 100% that you posting the entire article here directly effects the income of the copyright holder. I believe this because I own websites where I post articles like this. I rely on the traffic to those sites to generate income. There is no way that you, as a person who works with the online community, can be blind to the fact that traffic = profit. By taking away from that traffic, you are costing them money. Putting a link up doesn't mean jack because we have no reason to click the link since we've already read the article.

Post the first sentence or two or paraphrase the article and post a link...That's fine and would be appreciated by those who own the content. Copying and re-distributing it is illegal and damaging.

Gonna leave my reply until tomorrow - rather than a beer-fueled retort.

AaronM · 12-21-2013, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Gonna leave my reply until tomorrow - rather than a beer-fueled retort.

Fair enough.

Robbie · 12-21-2013, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

It's called 'worker safety' man. If a woman wants to fuck fifty guys a day, 30 days a month straight, she is putting herself (and others) at risk, let alone devaluing "the product". LOL

I don't know...I don't think it's anybodies business (especially some bureaucrat) how many people a girl has sex with.

Chances are, that unless a girl is being gangbanged...she's not gonna have sex with 50 clients in a day. (maybe 50 blowjobs).

Sometimes I think the "Nerd" part of your new gimmick is the part that is the most important. lol

In my opinion it's not being a "rebel" to keep the govt. from telling a woman who, what, when, and where she can have sex with.

As for if a woman had sex with 4 or 5 clients a day every day for 30 days straight...she's not putting anyone at "risk".
Next time you hire an escort...tell me what the first thing that happens is before you penetrate her.

I'll save that for you...you will be putting on a CONDOM.

I've never had an escort who didn't insist on it.

Now, if you are talking about street hookers/drug addicts...they don't give a fuck what the law is anyway. They will never be "regulated". And the men who pay them $50 for a "quickie" are probably just as diseased as the hooker.

I'm talking about REAL professionals, not the cliche of some skank walking a street corner.

They don't need a bunch of uptight religious nut MEN bureaucrats telling them what they can and can't do with their bodies.

If you really think that's being a "rebel", then I have to respectfully ask you to get back in your sheep pen and stop "baah-ing" so loudly. lol

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SilentKnight Megan Fox's fluffer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: shooting pool in Elysium Posts: 24,818	Canada: Supreme Court strikes down prostitution laws A sweeping decision by the Supreme Court of Canada that struck down all of the long-standing Criminal Code provisions dealing with prostitution will not protect society?s most vulnerable, says a local advocate of sex-trade workers. ?I am saddened by this ruling as now the street-level sex trade becomes more dangerous and invisible,? said Deb Nanson, founder of the Sex Trade Task Force of Niagara and program director with Terry?s Evergreen Addiction Recovery Services. ?Street-level women are the most vulnerable.? In a unanimous decision on Friday, the Supreme Court found that the bans on brothels, communicating for the purposes of prostitution and living off its avails violate the Charter of Rights and Freedoms because they endanger prostitute?s lives. While the ruling might appear to offer protection to prostitutes, Nanson said, what is written in law books and what is reality are two different things. ?What type of brothel would hire (street-level prostitutes) when the Playboy-type is available,? she said. ?I love the women I work with yet my heart is in fear of how invisible they shall become. They do not have the same protection as others will have.? In the judgment, Chief Justice Beverley McLachlin wrote, ?It makes no difference that the conduct of pimps and johns is the immediate source of the harms suffered by prostitutes. The impugned laws deprive people engaged in risky, but legal, activity of the means to protect themselves against those risks.? The ruling is suspended for a year, giving Parliament time to rewrite Canada?s prostitution laws. ?It will be for Parliament, should it choose to do so, to devise a new approach,? wrote McLachlin. ?How prostitution is regulated is a matter of great public concern, and few countries leave it unregulated.? Justice Minister Peter MacKay said the government is reviewing the decision and ?exploring all possible options to ensure the criminal law continues to address the significant harms that flow from prostitution to communities, those engaged in prostitution, and vulnerable persons.? Niagara Regional Police Const. Derek Watson on Friday said the service would not be commenting on the landmark ruling at this time. ?We respect the court?s decision and are in the process of reviewing the ruling,? he said, Glen Walker, executive director of AIDs Niagara, was encouraged by the decision. ?We will be looking towards the upcoming months to see what it may mean to the lives of sex-trade workers in Niagara.? The decision hands a victory to a team of three women, including Terri Jean Bedford who has said she wants to open a brothel that specializes in painful or humiliating sexual encounters. They challenged the prostitution laws, arguing that hookers are safest when they can hire security guards and work indoors. http://www.stcatharinesstandard.ca/2...stitution-laws

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