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  • Jonny69
    Registered User
    • Jan 2013
    • 87

    #1

    AWEMPIRE's new method of stealing money

    I promote AWEMPIRE for few years now, i dont earn too much, only few hundreds monthly. Last month they sent me an email telling me that from $400 (money made in that period) they have to cut $150 because a "PPS sale was commissioned to you instead of the original Webmaster who brought the transaction".

    This period, the same tricky method: again they cut $150 from almost $300 i've made telling the same shit: "We have found that a PPS sale was commissioned to you instead of the original Webmaster who brought the transaction, therefore we need to withhold $150 from the payments being sent to you for the second period of November, since these commissions should never have been credited to you but this was done due to a technical issue on our side."

    How is this possible? Could be true that such a big company like AWEMPIRE with such an old and developed software to have such bugs in their system or it is just a method to shave webmasters?
    Please post your experience with AWEMPIRE.
    Last edited by Jonny69; 12-17-2013, 03:46 AM.
    Contact:[email protected]
  • patrique007
    Registered User
    • Aug 2013
    • 46

    #2
    Had the same problem with another company. But you can't look into....let 'em proove it!

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    • Jonny69
      Registered User
      • Jan 2013
      • 87

      #3
      I wonder how could the sale belong to another webmaster? Did that webmaster emailed them telling: hey i know for sure i sent a visitor with a nickame "happyvisitor" to jasmin and he bought credits, why does not show on my stats????
      Last time when this happened i wanted to keep it between me and AWEMPIRE, i thought it was realy a mistake, but now...again...this is something personal and not a mistake.
      Contact:[email protected]

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      • nexcom28
        So Fucking Banned
        • Jan 2005
        • 3716

        #4
        I had exactly the same email.

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        • Jonny69
          Registered User
          • Jan 2013
          • 87

          #5
          Originally posted by nexcom28
          I had exactly the same email.
          Did you asked them for details or did you just left it like that?
          Contact:[email protected]

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          • nexcom28
            So Fucking Banned
            • Jan 2005
            • 3716

            #6
            I didn't ask for details. I thought it was strange though.

            Dear Affiliate,

            I am Bence, an Affiliate Manager of AWEmpire.com, contacting you regarding the following issue.

            We have found that a PPS sale was commissioned to you instead of the original Webmaster who brought the transaction, therefore unfortunately we need to withhold $150 from the payments being sent to you for the second period of November.

            I would like to confirm and emphasize that you will receive all earnings that you made, the case has been double checked and fixed by our developers in the meantime. Nevertheless I understand the inconvenience and we deeply regret it.
            Last edited by nexcom28; 12-17-2013, 04:25 AM.

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            • Phoenix
              BACON BACON BACON
              • Nov 2002
              • 35475

              #7
              so they are saying their tracking doesnt work?

              i dont get it..how could you get credited for someone elses sales?
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              • ls101
                Confirmed User
                • Nov 2012
                • 713

                #8
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                • DWB
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 31779

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Phoenix
                  so they are saying their tracking doesnt work?

                  i dont get it..how could you get credited for someone elses sales?
                  That explains why cam sales have gone to total shit.

                  I guess when you are manually approving sales it's easy to make a mistake and credit the wrong person. Just as easy as not crediting anyone.

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                  • Fat Panda
                    Porn is Dead. Move along.
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 13296

                    #10
                    seriously FUCK AWE

                    open a Video Secrets white label on revshare and direct all your cam traffic there

                    thank me in a year when you have consitent monthly income

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                    • MrMaxwell
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 10057

                      #11
                      Fucking AWE for chrissake
                      I'm still years later trying to clear a bonus they offered me
                      No sales ever counted anymore as soon as I needed one more sale to make payout+clear bonus
                      Pffft

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                      • x-rate
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 725

                        #12
                        Never got such issues with Crakrevenue I promote cams with them for a while and the good thing is that I can mix PPS, REV and PPL with differents cams site to compare and get everything in one single payment.
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                        • Jonny69
                          Registered User
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 87

                          #13
                          Anybody from AWE can answer here for this problem?
                          Contact:[email protected]

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                          • Dmcontent
                            Confirmed User
                            • May 2006
                            • 497

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Jonny69
                            How is this possible? Could be true that such a big company like AWEMPIRE with such an old and developed software to have such bugs in their system or it is just a method to shave webmasters?
                            Please post your experience with AWEMPIRE.
                            They don´t have any bugs on their system , they are shaving you and being honest by telling you so.
                            All cams sites shave.. ones more discreetly then others but in the end all shave.
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                            • AHarper
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 846

                              #15
                              I don't get it. Reading the same every year...AWE does this, AWE does that. Why are people still promoting it, when there are so many complaints about them? There are enough cam affiliate programs out there. If you feel that something is shady with your sponsor, move on, someone else will take your traffic.

                              Jonny, no offense, said this in general. I don't promote them and don't know if they are serious or not. Just my
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                              • stonehammer
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                                • Feb 2008
                                • 1430

                                #16
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                                • mamaliga
                                  la gente está muy loca
                                  • Mar 2011
                                  • 1323

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by AHarper
                                  I don't get it. Reading the same every year...AWE does this, AWE does that. Why are people still promoting it, when there are so many complaints about them?
                                  People are not promoting them ,they bought traffic from tubes.
                                  Thats a big difference.

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                                  • robwod
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Nov 2005
                                    • 2540

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Fat Panda
                                    seriously FUCK AWE

                                    open a Video Secrets white label on revshare and direct all your cam traffic there.

                                    thank me in a year when you have consitent monthly income
                                    I was certainly less than impressed with WebcamWiz. After 18 years in this business, I've learned that you sometimes find disrespect where you least expected it. Alas, life goes on, so have I.

                                    That said, VideoSecrets has been fantastic to deal with over the last year or so that we've been with them. Our affiliate Rep, Jasmine, has been an absolute pleasure to work with. She's a real breath of fresh air and the company has paid like clockwork.

                                    It should be noted that Streamate are a close second, though I wish they offered better communication than via email.

                                    Others seem to do okay with the AWE, Webcamwiz, etc. group. For us, however, and for me personally, I've lost considerable respect for them and how they operate.
                                    Last edited by robwod; 12-17-2013, 07:10 AM.
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                                    • Jonny69
                                      Registered User
                                      • Jan 2013
                                      • 87

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Phoenix
                                      so they are saying their tracking doesnt work?

                                      i dont get it..how could you get credited for someone elses sales?
                                      I was asking the same question to their rep, still waiting for a detailed answer. Im a programmer myself and i know how the whole system works.
                                      Contact:[email protected]

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                                      • nexcom28
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Jan 2005
                                        • 3716

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by robwod
                                        I was certainly less than impressed with WebcamWiz. After 18 years in this business, I've learned that you sometimes find disrespect where you least expected it. Alas, life goes on, so have I.

                                        That said, VideoSecrets has been fantastic to deal with over the last year or so that we've been with them. Our affiliate Rep, Jasmine, has been an absolute pleasure to work with. She's a real breath of fresh air and the company has paid like clockwork.

                                        It should be noted that Streamate are a close second, though I wish they offered better communication than via email.

                                        Others seem to do okay with the AWE, Webcamwiz, etc. group. For us, however, and for me personally, I've lost considerable respect for them and how they operate.

                                        Webcamwiz is Pussycash not AWE, just pointing that out.

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                                        • robwod
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Nov 2005
                                          • 2540

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by nexcom28
                                          Webcamwiz is Pussycash not AWE, just pointing that out.
                                          Doh, you're right. Not sure how I mixed those two up. Thanks for pointing out the mistake.

                                          I have an account at AWE, but never really used it. Pending the outcome of this thread though, perhaps it was a good thing I never really did.
                                          Last edited by robwod; 12-17-2013, 07:54 AM.
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                                          • pinkz
                                            Mr 1%
                                            • May 2005
                                            • 1397

                                            #22
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                                            • VS_Jeff
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jan 2012
                                              • 427

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by robwod
                                              That said, VideoSecrets has been fantastic to deal with over the last year or so that we've been with them. Our affiliate Rep, Jasmine, has been an absolute pleasure to work with. She's a real breath of fresh air and the company has paid like clockwork.
                                              Originally posted by pinkz
                                              Despite some bitching regards their TOS Video Secrets is the only place i will send my webcam traffic to. They convert, they retain and they pay </thread>
                                              Originally posted by Fat Panda
                                              open a Video Secrets white label on revshare and direct all your cam traffic there

                                              thank me in a year when you have consitent monthly income
                                              Thanks everyone!!
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                                              • nexcom28
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Jan 2005
                                                • 3716

                                                #24
                                                Streamate / Mtree does really well for me. Videosecrets, not so much.

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                                                • whOaKemosabe
                                                  So Fucking Stoned...
                                                  • Aug 2013
                                                  • 1968

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Jonny69
                                                  Anybody from AWE can answer here for this problem?
                                                  see sig don't mess with awe

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                                                  • Cyber Fucker
                                                    Hmm
                                                    • Sep 2005
                                                    • 12642

                                                    #26
                                                    I would never ever promote AWE again, even if they wanted to give away me $200 to try I would say NO. Because their shady track is long. Tried once somewhere between 2006-2008, sent them couple thousands uniques of quality traffic that converted pretty good with other sponsors but never made single 1$ with AWE... yeah sure.

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                                                    • postalsex
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Dec 2013
                                                      • 400

                                                      #27
                                                      I did not promote them because they dont offer paxum payments but now that you are saying that It is another red flag....
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                                                      • VinceRuth
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                                                        • Nov 2013
                                                        • 789

                                                        #28
                                                        nice method for steal
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                                                        • adultmobile
                                                          No, I am not banned
                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                          • 5345

                                                          #29
                                                          I do not know what is going on, but I invite you guys to use http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deductive_reasoning . Let's say you are a program and you want to shave: each 5 sales, you want to pay 4 only. You have these 2 options:

                                                          1) Show 5 sales in reports. Then email the affiliate: "sorry, we give only 4, one was !?!?" [ feel free to post this in forums]

                                                          2) Show 4 sales from start, and stick to it. [nothing to post in forums]

                                                          The 1) it is not likely an option for shaving, really, the 1) is for real tracking correction. I would expect shaving to happen like 2) instead. Accordingly, it is logic that in this specific case, it is not likely shaving - still could be shaving is done by any program in any time, but without unlikely subtracting from already credited sales. I repeat, I do not know what is going on, I just used logic.

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                                                          • xNetworx
                                                            So Fucking What
                                                            • Jan 2004
                                                            • 14445

                                                            #30
                                                            See sig

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                                                            • bluebook18
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Mar 2012
                                                              • 4082

                                                              #31
                                                              that's why i avoid them

                                                              PIRIOD!

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                                                              • georgeyw
                                                                58008 53773
                                                                • Jul 2005
                                                                • 9865

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by adultmobile
                                                                I do not know what is going on, but I invite you guys to use http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deductive_reasoning . Let's say you are a program and you want to shave: each 5 sales, you want to pay 4 only. You have these 2 options:

                                                                1) Show 5 sales in reports. Then email the affiliate: "sorry, we give only 4, one was !?!?" [ feel free to post this in forums]

                                                                2) Show 4 sales from start, and stick to it. [nothing to post in forums]

                                                                The 1) it is not likely an option for shaving, really, the 1) is for real tracking correction. I would expect shaving to happen like 2) instead. Accordingly, it is logic that in this specific case, it is not likely shaving - still could be shaving is done by any program in any time, but without unlikely subtracting from already credited sales. I repeat, I do not know what is going on, I just used logic.
                                                                3) The new shave code messed up and let sales through so operation email shave program was activated automatically until new shaved code is fully functional.
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                                                                • AHarper
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jul 2010
                                                                  • 846

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by nexcom28
                                                                  Streamate / Mtree does really well for me. Videosecrets, not so much.
                                                                  I see a lot of nice promotools but their affiliate backend only has some old fashioned banners and some text links. Where to get them?
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                                                                  • ErectMedia
                                                                    Confirmed Chicago Pimp
                                                                    • Aug 2004
                                                                    • 7100

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by AHarper
                                                                    I don't get it. Reading the same every year...AWE does this, AWE does that. Why are people still promoting it, when there are so many complaints about them? There are enough cam affiliate programs out there. If you feel that something is shady with your sponsor, move on, someone else will take your traffic.

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                                                                    • adultmobile
                                                                      No, I am not banned
                                                                      • Nov 2003
                                                                      • 5345

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by georgeyw
                                                                      3) The new shave code messed up and let sales through so operation email shave program was activated automatically until new shaved code is fully functional.
                                                                      A shaver who had failed shaving code, should prefer to pay 100% for that fault period, and silently reactivate when possible. Rather than send out to everyone bad news emails that generates drama thread as this one. Even Epassporte's Mallick said "money is in motion" and not "your money is mallicked".
                                                                      Most programs even don't subtract small chargebacks to models/affiliates, as this could generate a magnitude of drama, damaging more than the chargeback loss (I talk of small chargebacks - a $1000 chargeback you pass to models/affiliates...).
                                                                      I would suggest this is the most probable:

                                                                      4) these sales was counted twice (so displayed in 2 affiliate accounts, paid twice) or simply in the wrong affiliate account. Then fixed emailing who got one subtracted.

                                                                      Now I am sure someone will post a 5)

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                                                                      • TheMaster
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Nov 2003
                                                                        • 2734

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by adultmobile
                                                                        Most programs even don't subtract small chargebacks to models/affiliates, as this could generate a magnitude of drama, damaging more than the chargeback loss (I talk of small chargebacks - a $1000 chargeback you pass to models/affiliates...)
                                                                        maybe this is the case in cam business, but with paysites, they'll subtract the smallest chargebacks (revshare of course)

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                                                                        • Jonny69
                                                                          Registered User
                                                                          • Jan 2013
                                                                          • 87

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by adultmobile
                                                                          I do not know what is going on, but I invite you guys to use http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deductive_reasoning . Let's say you are a program and you want to shave: each 5 sales, you want to pay 4 only. You have these 2 options:

                                                                          1) Show 5 sales in reports. Then email the affiliate: "sorry, we give only 4, one was !?!?" [ feel free to post this in forums]

                                                                          2) Show 4 sales from start, and stick to it. [nothing to post in forums]

                                                                          The 1) it is not likely an option for shaving, really, the 1) is for real tracking correction. I would expect shaving to happen like 2) instead. Accordingly, it is logic that in this specific case, it is not likely shaving - still could be shaving is done by any program in any time, but without unlikely subtracting from already credited sales. I repeat, I do not know what is going on, I just used logic.
                                                                          Maybe they use both of them, 1 sale shaved using 1st method and second one using 2nd method (and who knows how many "bugs" they might invent...those Hungarians are so inventive)
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                                                                          • adultmobile
                                                                            No, I am not banned
                                                                            • Nov 2003
                                                                            • 5345

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Jonny69
                                                                            Maybe they use both of them, 1 sale shaved using 1st method and second one using 2nd method (and who knows how many "bugs" they might invent...those Hungarians are so inventive)
                                                                            It could be it is a quantum computer being used, it includes signups teleportation:


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                                                                            • secureizef
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Nov 2013
                                                                              • 173

                                                                              #39
                                                                              hmmm serious allegations

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                                                                              • DerKramer
                                                                                Registered User
                                                                                • Oct 2013
                                                                                • 44

                                                                                #40
                                                                                strange stuff....

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                                                                                • campimp
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jan 2007
                                                                                  • 1340

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  you guys having most videosecrets luck with whitelabels or promoting flirt4free?

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                                                                                  • robwod
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Nov 2005
                                                                                    • 2540

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by campimp
                                                                                    you guys having most videosecrets luck with whitelabels or promoting flirt4free?
                                                                                    Our testing has shown that VideoSecret's WL's work quite well, more especially if they are the cam solution for your existing established website -- as then you already have consumer confidence from your site which translates to them feeling comfortable in signing up to your WL.
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                                                                                    • VS_Jeff
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Jan 2012
                                                                                      • 427

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by campimp
                                                                                      you guys having most videosecrets luck with whitelabels or promoting flirt4free?
                                                                                      Originally posted by robwod
                                                                                      Our testing has shown that VideoSecret's WL's work quite well, more especially if they are the cam solution for your existing established website -- as then you already have consumer confidence from your site which translates to them feeling comfortable in signing up to your WL.
                                                                                      This is true, but I always recommend to test because some brands convert better promoting F4F. If you already have a good brand identity with your members, then a WL is a good option. Add me on Skype if you need any help.
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                                                                                      • livegirlsonbed
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Apr 2006
                                                                                        • 487

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by VS_Jeff
                                                                                        This is true, but I always recommend to test because some brands convert better promoting F4F. If you already have a good brand identity with your members, then a WL is a good option. Add me on Skype if you need any help.

                                                                                        Best promotion for your affiliate program is in your negative competition threads?
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                                                                                        • DVTimes
                                                                                          xxx
                                                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                                                          • 31658

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          this sucks

                                                                                          links pulled
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                                                                                          • Jonny69
                                                                                            Registered User
                                                                                            • Jan 2013
                                                                                            • 87

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            VideoSecret had some bad experience with webmasters in the past, i dont remember details but there are some threads here on gfy about this. So ill skip this one for the moment.
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                                                                                            • adultmobile
                                                                                              No, I am not banned
                                                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                                                              • 5345

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by livegirlsonbed
                                                                                              Best promotion for your affiliate program is in your negative competition threads?
                                                                                              A few people posted about VS first, so VS just replied.

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                                                                                              • TubeSubmitters
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Aug 2006
                                                                                                • 2683

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Anyone still getting signups with AWE after they changed to jasmin.com? Ratio is terrible after that for some "strange" reason....
                                                                                                Buying sites with income, paying by paxum, hit me up

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                                                                                                • Peter-Porn
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Dec 2009
                                                                                                  • 244

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by robwod
                                                                                                  I was certainly less than impressed with WebcamWiz. After 18 years in this business, I've learned that you sometimes find disrespect where you least expected it. Alas, life goes on, so have I.

                                                                                                  That said, VideoSecrets has been fantastic to deal with over the last year or so that we've been with them. Our affiliate Rep, Jasmine, has been an absolute pleasure to work with. She's a real breath of fresh air and the company has paid like clockwork.

                                                                                                  It should be noted that Streamate are a close second, though I wish they offered better communication than via email.

                                                                                                  Others seem to do okay with the AWE, Webcamwiz, etc. group. For us, however, and for me personally, I've lost considerable respect for them and how they operate.
                                                                                                  I use to do ok with webcamwiz in past but now at least 40% of the sales are charge backs or nulled PPS with no reason..

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                                                                                                  • PornDiscounts-V
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                                                                                                    • Oct 2003
                                                                                                    • 5744

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    I have also had pps removed. Stopped actively promoting them.
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