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EonBlue 12-06-2013 10:13 AM

Scientists downplay Fukushima radiation hazards

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Experts agree that the radiation from the Fukushima nuclear plant is an "environmental catastrophe," but it is only a fraction of the fallout from atmospheric nuclear tests carried out in the 1950s and 1960s, they say.

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Since the disaster struck more than two-and-a-half-years ago, there has been widespread international criticism of the operators of the plant and the Japanese government, both for failures before the earthquake struck and errors made subsequently. But experts say that mankind has been living with far higher levels of nuclear contamination for more than half a century.

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Dr. Aoyama's studies show that by 1970, an estimated 290 petabecquerels - an alarming 29 followed by 15 zeroes - of cesium fallout was in the north Pacific ocean from atmospheric weapons tests. In contrast, the direct discharge from Fukushima was around 3 petabecquerels, while the total atmospheric release - some 80 percent of which was deposited on the Pacific - came to some 15 petabecquerels.

_Richard_ 12-06-2013 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19898603)
alright

find me seaweed testing beyond 2012.. so end of 2012, sometime in 2013

im honestly curious, i can't find any

while you're at it.. maybe a bulletproof argument on why we suddenly stopped testing for air borne radiation

and why we raised the acceptable radiation levels in.. everything..

dyna mo 12-06-2013 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 19898694)

again, retarded, there are no correlations included showing the cancer and health issues resulting from all the radioactive fallout in the 50s and 60s.


it's a fake argument to claim that it appears there is less radioactivity resulting from fukashima than released in the 50s, therefore, we are all good.

Tom_PM 12-06-2013 10:23 AM

Well that tears it. I'm asking for my money back.

EonBlue 12-06-2013 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19898709)
again, retarded, there are no correlations included showing the cancer and health issues resulting from all the radioactive fallout in the 50s and 60s.


it's a fake argument to claim that it appears there is less radioactivity resulting from fukashima than released in the 50s, therefore, we are all good.


It's not a fake argument. It's an argument meant to put things into perspective. But clearly some people aren't interested in perspective as they are only interested in blowing things way out of proportion in the hopes of adding a little excitement to their day.

But seriously, feel free to panic even if the panic may be more harmful to your health than what you are panicking over.

For god's sake even David Suzuki is looking at things more rationally than your typical Internet alarmist:

Despite Fukushima radiation, scientists say West Coast fish is safe

No point in arguing any of this further. It's obvious that for some people the sky is always falling.

EonBlue 12-06-2013 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19898695)
while you're at it.. maybe a bulletproof argument on why we suddenly stopped testing for air borne radiation

and why we raised the acceptable radiation levels in.. everything..

I have no way of knowing whether any of that is true or false and I'm pretty sure that you don't either.

_Richard_ 12-06-2013 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 19898726)
I have no way of knowing whether any of that is true or false and I'm pretty sure that you don't either.

you can't just google it?

where do you get this info you're currently posting now?

http://www.globalresearch.ca/obama-a...rocket/5331224

you seem to be 'pretty sure' about a lot of things..

you find yourself using belief a lot?

dyna mo 12-06-2013 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 19898724)
It's not a fake argument. It's an argument meant to put things into perspective. But clearly some people aren't interested in perspective as they are only interested in blowing things way out of proportion in the hopes of adding a little excitement to their day.

But seriously, feel free to panic even if the panic may be more harmful to your health than what you are panicking over.

For god's sake even David Suzuki is looking at things more rationally than your typical Internet alarmist:

Despite Fukushima radiation, scientists say West Coast fish is safe

No point in arguing any of this further. It's obvious that for some people the sky is always falling.

yup, no point in arguing anymore, here is david suzuki's dire warning on fuka nuka, as opposed to the article you linked which is nothing more than an article stating that as of today, it's ok to eat seafood on the west coast.


dyna mo 12-06-2013 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 19898724)
It's not a fake argument. It's an argument meant to put things into perspective. But clearly some people aren't interested in perspective as they are only interested in blowing things way out of proportion in the hopes of adding a little excitement to their day.

But seriously, feel free to panic even if the panic may be more harmful to your health than what you are panicking over.

For god's sake even David Suzuki is looking at things more rationally than your typical Internet alarmist:

Despite Fukushima radiation, scientists say West Coast fish is safe

No point in arguing any of this further. It's obvious that for some people the sky is always falling.

just like the other article you posted, from the article you posted:

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Any amount of leaked radiation is harmful to the planet and the health of all species, including humans. A major release of radioactivity, such as that from Fukushima, is a huge concern, with unknowns remaining around long-term health risks such as cancers.

dyna mo 12-06-2013 10:44 AM

it's beyond insane to me to see peeps trying to lessen the impact of this, let alone make it out like people being concerned are akin to conspiracy theorists.

_Richard_ 12-06-2013 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19898737)
it's beyond insane to me to see peeps trying to lessen the impact of this, let alone make it out like people being concerned are akin to conspiracy theorists.

yea, sucks eh?

Phoenix 12-06-2013 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19898737)
it's beyond insane to me to see peeps trying to lessen the impact of this, let alone make it out like people being concerned are akin to conspiracy theorists.

The flock never see the purple Jesus for what it is. They are loyal even when digging their own graves.

_Richard_ 12-06-2013 10:50 AM

suzuki :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

he's a corporate quack and i can explain from personal experience

EonBlue 12-06-2013 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19898728)
you can't just google it?

where do you get this info you're currently posting now?

http://www.globalresearch.ca/obama-a...rocket/5331224

you seem to be 'pretty sure' about a lot of things..

you find yourself using belief a lot?

Link not working.

I guess I seem to be 'pretty sure' in the same way that you seem to be 'pretty sure'. And no I don't use belief a lot at all. But I do tend to try to get my information from credible sources and not from Youtube videos mashed together by typical Internet fear mongers.

EonBlue 12-06-2013 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19898742)
suzuki :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

he's a corporate quack and i can explain from personal experience

Suzuki is typically one of the biggest alarmists there is especially when it comes to CAGW. I have never liked the guy but it did surprise me to see that even he, of all people, wasn't even panicking about radiation from Fukushima just yet.

EonBlue 12-06-2013 10:59 AM

Here's a handy little chart for more perspective:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...rt_by_Xkcd.png

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...rt_by_Xkcd.png

EonBlue 12-06-2013 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19898737)
it's beyond insane to me to see peeps trying to lessen the impact of this, let alone make it out like people being concerned are akin to conspiracy theorists.

I'm not trying to lessen the impact of it at all. It's a huge disaster. No question.

But it's beyond insane to me to see peeps trying to greatly exaggerate the impact of this, let alone make it out like people being rational about it are to be talked down to.

baddog 12-06-2013 11:08 AM

And you are worried about this why? Is there something you or anyone can do about it?

dyna mo 12-06-2013 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 19898761)
I'm not trying to lessen the impact of it at all. It's a huge disaster. No question.

But it's beyond insane to me to see peeps trying to greatly exaggerate the impact of this, let alone make it out like people being rational about it are to be talked down to.

certainly you must be joking, because your first post in here was you very much talking down to others and distorting people's concerns as panic. you went on from there.

dyna mo 12-06-2013 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19898765)
And you are worried about this why?

because there are no other threads to get snarky in right now! :1orglaugh

EonBlue 12-06-2013 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19898767)
certainly you must be joking, because your first post in here was you very much talking down to others and distorting people's concerns as panic. you went on from there.

My first post was meant as a reference to the type who produce the videos like the one that started the thread. I don't believe I started out by talking down to anyone specifically and directly on this board. If I did then my bad.

But I do put scare-mongers into the same category as conspiracy theorists.

2MuchMark 12-06-2013 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19898765)
And you are worried about this why? Is there something you or anyone can do about it?

Wow... just... amazing.

adultchatpay 12-06-2013 11:19 PM

Wow, good luck to us indeed!

JockoHomo 12-07-2013 02:25 AM

Considering what wonderful creatures humans are I think this is way overdue actually.

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