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jigg 12-18-2013 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by happyending (Post 19914693)
And + Retards like this homophobic ignorant racist old nut :)

HIV knows NO Social Status, Gender, Sexual Orientation or Race Dumb Ass it's a Virus that anyone can get.

in eastern europe it's 85% drug addicts who test HIV+
in Africa it's 25% gay men or men who have sex with men who test HIV+
the other 75% is heterosexual men and women

C4W 12-19-2013 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19914708)
I'm sure that most of the people will just continue on with the fear. This is a disease that is probably the most socially stigmatizing since leprosy and polio.

It's bc we are brought up with the fear and it was real so its stuck on us. Now the problem is people do not get checked bc they are scared of it and those are the ones that die. If all god checked it would go away.

Most do not know how god the meds are these days it's amost a cure.

Good articel.

Clay 12-19-2013 02:48 AM

Why people say theres no money in a cure? They could charge $100,000 for a cure and millions of people will sell their house to buy for it.
Whoever comes out with the cure first will be the wealthiest entity in the history of earth.

And look at Gilead stock the past 5 years since creating Truvada
https://www.google.com/finance?chdnp...pi5FIKSiQLiuAE

bluetomatoe 12-19-2013 08:13 AM

Imagine the day, when there is a chance to cure this....this is so bad....

franck-affil4you 12-30-2013 10:00 PM

What I know is that the best way to get rid of this disease is to either protect yourself by using condom and the single most important--ABSTINENCE!

TheSquealer 12-30-2013 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19904871)
HIV meds cost on average $100 USD where I live. The government gives them to citizens for free if they can't afford it. Oddly, most locals choose no meds at all and die when they die.

Buddhism.....

pornlaw 12-30-2013 11:38 PM

There is a new strain... Never before seen that just hit in NY. Just 1 case so far.

3 weeks from seroconversion to death. This virus isn't done adapting to all those wonderful new drug therapies.

Robbie 12-31-2013 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 19928307)
There is a new strain... Never before seen that just hit in NY. Just 1 case so far.

3 weeks from seroconversion to death. This virus isn't done adapting to all those wonderful new drug therapies.

Your post is a bit vague and scary. This new strain has been around a while now in Africa (google it up)

It's main aggression is that it develops on average into Aids in 5 years instead of 7 and has nothing to do with HIV medication.

This is the kind of irrational fearmongering I'm talking about.

Everyone of you reading this SHOULD be scared to death of the heart disease that you will die from because of our societies horribly unhealthy foods...or the car wreck that statistically will kill you a hundred thousand times more certainly.

The fact is that it isn't easy for a man to catch hiv from a woman. And if you do get hiv, the hiv meds will stop it from ever becoming aids and you will live a long and healthy life.

Cancer, heart disease, car wreck? Not so much.

zuffa 02-04-2014 07:35 PM

I hate to bump an old thread however I have been doing some research here in Las Vegas for a colleague and have found the following regarding Truvada ( the once a day HIV prevention pill )

All prices are per month and current as of Jan 2014.

Walmart $1,360.37
Sams Club $1,360.37
CVS Pharmacy $1,610
Kmart $1,554
Publix $1,606
Kroger Pharmacy $1,737
Target $1,463
Safeway $1,713
Walgreens $1,554
Rite-Aid $1,664

Robbie 02-04-2014 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zuffa (Post 19970166)
I hate to bump an old thread however I have been doing some research here in Las Vegas for a colleague and have found the following regarding Truvada ( the once a day HIV prevention pill )

All prices are per month and current as of Jan 2014.

Walmart $1,360.37
Sams Club $1,360.37
CVS Pharmacy $1,610
Kmart $1,554
Publix $1,606
Kroger Pharmacy $1,737
Target $1,463
Safeway $1,713
Walgreens $1,554
Rite-Aid $1,664

Thank goodness for Obamacare! Insurance will cover it. :)

zuffa 02-04-2014 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19970200)
Thank goodness for Obamacare! Insurance will cover it. :)

ROFL .. wouldn't that be nice!

Robbie 02-04-2014 08:39 PM

Hah, I was kinda joking around. But here is an article written by a gay "bottom" who loves to have unprotected anal sex (receiving).
He didn't want to catch HIV, but hates the way condoms ruin sex.

So he went to the doctor. Got the prescription and guess what? His insurance covered it as a preventative!

Check it out, it's not a long read: http://www.frontiersla.com/mylifeonp...spx?ID=1797617

Robbie 02-04-2014 08:40 PM

Here's another article saying that your insurance will cover it as a preventative:

http://positivelyaware.com/2013/13-0...for-prep.shtml

Google sure is handy.

Phoenix 02-04-2014 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19970209)
Here's another article saying that your insurance will cover it as a preventative:

http://positivelyaware.com/2013/13-0...for-prep.shtml

Google sure is handy.

Robbie, there is now a vaccine being put out by a medical school in Canada.
From the Med school at Western University. A vaccine against HIV

I can't remember if we covered it in this thread, but i thought since most people only read the last posts I would mention it again.

Robbie 02-04-2014 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 19970247)
Robbie, there is now a vaccine being put out by a medical school in Canada.
From the Med school at Western University. A vaccine against HIV

I can't remember if we covered it in this thread, but i thought since most people only read the last posts I would mention it again.

Here is the story on that vaccine:
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/09...n_3865059.html

It's not yet approved for use. But when it is...I would think that EVERYBODY would get it.

And then I suppose that the FCC and all the testing companies that make bank on "Testing" will start proclaiming that testing MUST continue because of people possibly having gonorrhea and syphilis.

I don't want to sound flippant...but okay. Maybe testing every 3 months or so for that. Most times gonorrhea will let you know within a few days if you have it (when you're pissing razor blades lol).

But this bullshit of testing every 14 days at $300 a freakin' test is something I hope to see ENDED when and if this vaccine comes out.
And as I said earlier...in the meantime, if I were a performer in that LA "talent pool"...I'd be taking PrEP medication now to make sure I didn't have to worry about it at all.

baddog 02-05-2014 12:00 AM

I did not know they had ever found a cure for any virus.

baddog 02-05-2014 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jigg (Post 19904347)
what are you saying? That pharma companies would like to have more $14,000/year patients? :)

14k is chump change :2 cents: Probably not worth the paperwork

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 02-05-2014 12:38 AM

http://www.healthnewsreview.org/wp-c...ok%20cover.jpg

Some people are less than enthusiastic about pay-to-publish science journals such as PLoS:

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PLoS One: Not a real science journal

I love the open-access concept for scientific journals. There is no reason why someone should have to pay $35 to read my papers.

PLoS is one of the first and largest open-access science journals out there. Some of their journals, like PLoS Biology, are very prestigious places to publish and have put out many amazing studies. They also have a vigorous peer-review process.

Unfortunately, to subsidize publication in their premier journals, PLoS pretty much lets anyone who's willing to pay a couple of thousand dollars to publish anything in their barely peer-reviewed journal PLoS One.

Their argument for minimizing the peer-review process (and ignoring the scientific merit of their papers) is that it is reviewed by the global community. Unfortunately, all it does is get a bunch of non-scientists make a big deal of a crappy study for being published in a scientific journal.

Don't get me wrong, there have been some nice papers I've read in PLoS One, but they also let in a lot of crap (70% of what's submitted is published), like this recent one about a model for Moses parting the Red Sea, that has absolutely no scientific merit. Because of this, PLoS One made it to my Fake Science list.
I read this about the HIV breakthrough cited by the OP in the initial post of this thread:

Quote:

German scientists have used a genetic modification technique to cut HIV out of infected cells in mice. Now they hope it will lead to a cure for the virus ? but the likelihood of that remains to be seen.

A team of researchers at the Dresden University of Technology say they managed to create an enzyme that can identify a sequence of the virus and remove it with 90 % accuracy, according to The Local.

The enzyme ? sometimes called "molecular scissors" ? gets inside the DNA double helix, cuts it up and rearranges it in a new, HIV-free pattern, according to the European news site.

Hauber said it is the only method to actually remove an HIV infection.

"There are various methods and similar approaches, but removing the virus from infected cells is unique," Hauber said.

But it is premature for scientists to be able to conclude what this progress means for people.

Professor Frank Buchholz, leader of the research team from the Dresden University of Technology, thinks the research could potentially be ready for humans in about a decade, The Local reports.
Quote:

Professor Jürgen Rockstroh, president of the German Aids Society, hopes the scientists can secure enough funding to continue their work ? and possibly find a cure.

The only patient thought to be cured of HIV is Timothy Ray Brown, who received a bone marrow transplant in 2007.

Experts say bone marrow transplants are risky and not a reasonable method for treating the virus.
Funny, that some of you are already proclaiming this a cure, because you read something you didn't understand on the internet. Gotta love the GFY scientists (almost as good as the GFY lawyers). Never let facts get in the way of a good rant or conspiracy theory. :1orglaugh

:stoned

ADG

Phoenix 02-05-2014 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19970365)
http://www.healthnewsreview.org/wp-c...ok%20cover.jpg

Some people are less than enthusiastic about pay-to-publish science journals such as PLoS:



I read this about the HIV breakthrough cited by the OP in the initial post of this thread:







Funny, that some of you are already proclaiming this a cure, because you read something you didn't understand on the internet. Gotta love the GFY scientists (almost as good as the GFY lawyers). Never let facts get in the way of a good rant or conspiracy theory. :1orglaugh

:stoned

ADG

This thread is about why is there not more focus and work going on around the existing strategies that seem to have potential to yield results.

huey 02-05-2014 12:55 AM

Isn't Magic cured?

Robbie 02-05-2014 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by huey (Post 19970373)
Isn't Magic cured?

No, he takes the daily medication and it keeps it in check. (sort of like cancer in remission).

The medication keeps his viral load at zero. If he took an HIV test he would come back negative.
And he is living a healthy life and should have a full life span.

BUT...if he stopped taking the daily pill, the virus would return.

What I'm interested in is the daily pill to PREVENT you from catching HIV. And Phoenix brought up the newest vaccine that has been developed by scientists in Canada to PREVENT you from catching HIV.

ADG is posting...well, I'm not sure WHAT exactly he is going on about with pictures and his attacking other GFY'ers for no reason.

But that's what he does.

So to answer your question: Magic Johnson isn't technically "cured". But he also has no traces of HIV in his system.
I guess the definition of "cured" would be that you don't need the daily pill to keep the HIV from coming back.

huey 02-05-2014 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19970926)
No, he takes the daily medication and it keeps it in check. (sort of like cancer in remission).

The medication keeps his viral load at zero. If he took an HIV test he would come back negative.
And he is living a healthy life and should have a full life span.

BUT...if he stopped taking the daily pill, the virus would return.

What I'm interested in is the daily pill to PREVENT you from catching HIV. And Phoenix brought up the newest vaccine that has been developed by scientists in Canada to PREVENT you from catching HIV.

ADG is posting...well, I'm not sure WHAT exactly he is going on about with pictures and his attacking other GFY'ers for no reason.

But that's what he does.

So to answer your question: Magic Johnson isn't technically "cured". But he also has no traces of HIV in his system.
I guess the definition of "cured" would be that you don't need the daily pill to keep the HIV from coming back.

I was being a little sarcastic about Magic and was pointing out that at the time if you had money you survived and if you didn't you where in trouble. I'm from Vancouver and I believe the concoction of pills used now by most to control the virus was figured out at our St.Paul's hospital. Could be wrong

Robbie 02-05-2014 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by huey (Post 19970945)
I was being a little sarcastic about Magic and was pointing out that at the time if you had money you survived and if you didn't you where in trouble. I'm from Vancouver and I believe the concoction of pills used now by most to control the virus was figured out at our St.Paul's hospital. Could be wrong

From what I've read...it's no longer the cocktail of multiple pills. It's one pill. And insurance covers it. So you don't have to be rich to live anymore.

Not that I want to be sick...but if I had my choice I'd much rather have HIV and be able to take one pill a day and live a healthy life VS having a bad cancer, COPD, kidney disease, etc., etc.

I'm really interested in finding out what becomes of the preventative vaccine that Phoenix is discussing and I'm still bewildered why the one a day pill that prevents you from getting HIV in the first place isn't more widely publicized and why the FSC isn't at least talking about it and giving out the information (I guess there wouldn't be any money in the testing game if they did that)

Grapesoda 02-05-2014 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19970209)
Here's another article saying that your insurance will cover it as a preventative:

http://positivelyaware.com/2013/13-0...for-prep.shtml

Google sure is handy.

yes but ins won't cover HGH unless you have HIV :2 cents:

iSpyCams 02-05-2014 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 19892434)
They need to find a way of paying scientists and doctors, as well as pharmaceutical companies who develop these things. So there is more incentive to go after them.

Yeah those are some underpaid motherfuckers right there...

Trend 02-05-2014 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19970209)
Here's another article saying that your insurance will cover it as a preventative:

http://positivelyaware.com/2013/13-0...for-prep.shtml

Google sure is handy.

Insurance covering PrEP ( Truvada ) is a great thing! There are unfortunately some challenges in actually getting it prescribed due to concerns over efficacy.

1. Apparently, it did not do well in clinical trials with women. There is speculation that the vaginal environment is not ideal for this medication to work. Despite the challenges in clinical trials, the drug was still approved: Gilead Must Halt FDA Approval of Truvada as Women?s PrEP Study Fails


2. Because of these challenges within the clinical trials, doctors are not prescribing the medication as one might expect.

About 2000 prescriptions likely in 2013


2000 doesn't seem like a large number of prescriptions to me :Oh crap


I truly hope that the science continues to advance ... quickly and we develop not only a vaccine but a cure.

edit: Sorry, forgot the links.


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