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11-25-2013, 03:23 PM

I see that i make sales with other sponsors, but months after months, i see less or less reccurring sales (with a possible rebill) while it's still pretty decent with other sponsors...

CCbill, can you fix your shit, plz ?
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11-25-2013, 03:38 PM

Not sure I have a clue what you're trying to say, but if I do...

The sponsors you're using who don't use CCBill as their credit card processor and you're seeing lots of rebills, compared to the sponsors who use CCBill and you're seeing fewer rebills, is likely because -- the sponsors who don't use CCBill are in a lot of cases companies with much better programs, more content, better content, their own processing / merchant accounts / less scrubbing / etc. So obviously you're going to see better rebills %'s with those companies and it has little to do with CCBill themselves.

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11-25-2013, 03:45 PM

I love these posts that "blame CCBILL" for stuff like this...
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11-25-2013, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by SlammedMedia

Not sure I have a clue what you're trying to say, but if I do...

The sponsors you're using who don't use CCBill as their credit card processor and you're seeing lots of rebills, compared to the sponsors who use CCBill and you're seeing fewer rebills, is likely because -- the sponsors who don't use CCBill are in a lot of cases companies with much better programs, more content, better content, their own processing / merchant accounts / less scrubbing / etc. So obviously you're going to see better rebills %'s with those companies and it has little to do with CCBill themselves.

I could compare my reccuring sales now and my reccuring sales 2 years ago: i have now much more single transactions. I wonder why...
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11-25-2013, 03:49 PM

Originally posted by pornmasta

I could compare my reccuring sales now and my reccuring sales 2 years ago: i have now much more single transactions. I wonder why...

I have noticed that switch too actually, loads of singles in CCBill these days (not sure why)

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11-25-2013, 04:02 PM

Originally posted by pornmasta

I could compare my reccuring sales now and my reccuring sales 2 years ago: i have now much more single transactions. I wonder why...

Perhaps there's a reduced scrub on single

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11-26-2013, 03:07 AM

Originally posted by pornmasta

I could compare my reccuring sales now and my reccuring sales 2 years ago: i have now much more single transactions. I wonder why...

The internet's a different place than it was 2 years ago, you can't compare anything to how it was. A lot of people know how to (or can) rip sites faster than they did two years. Due to access to programs that rip videos / photo galleries and overall people's internet connections keep getting faster. I'd guess the vast majority of CCBill sites aren't giving members updates that are worth staying anymore than a month, once the site's been ripped, or totally checked out.

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11-27-2013, 12:37 AM

I've been using ccbill for years,

My oldest member is from 2007 and logs in every day

If your not getting rebills, then I suggest you look at what your site is offering
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11-27-2013, 01:26 AM

Originally posted by ShackledMaidens

My oldest member is from 2007 and logs in every day

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11-27-2013, 02:50 AM

When affiliate discuss this, they are often talking from the perspective of sales from 100's of different CCBill programs.

Originally posted by ShackledMaidens

I've been using ccbill for years,

My oldest member is from 2007 and logs in every day

If your not getting rebills, then I suggest you look at what your site is offering

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11-27-2013, 04:37 AM

This month I have my worst ccbill month since I was in high school

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11-27-2013, 04:38 AM

Bump for this thread !
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11-27-2013, 04:48 AM

Originally posted by wehateporn

Perhaps there's a reduced scrub on single

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11-29-2013, 05:39 AM

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I have 25+ members who log in every day, 80% of members have been with me for over a year.

Thought that's how you run a pay site or have I gone wrong somewhere :/

As for November, so far looking like the 2nd best months in a year
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11-29-2013, 05:52 AM

affs still sending to ccbill have seriously failed to adapt. yes, it's lovely they pay like clockwork etc, and you can consolidate etc, and sometimes you have no choice depending on the niche/content etc. But... ccbill is far from geared towards affiliates (and barely even geared to merchants).
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11-29-2013, 05:55 AM

to expound on that a bit:

"blah blah I know I'll get paid"

well,

1: how many times have you actually been burned? It's hardly an extremely widespread occurence.
2. you could get burned by program xyz after 4 months for a months worth of payments and still be up as to $$$ in your pocket.
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11-29-2013, 06:48 AM

ive noticed more single sales too, and more declines on rebills which is annoying, card was fine 30 days ago but not now.. ccbill are still the only company to decline my card ever.

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12-05-2013, 10:27 AM

For affilates like me, CCBill is dead in the water! With about 3 single signups in the last three months and down to about 3 rebills now, lots of longstanding rebills have gone, just waiting for those last rebills to cancel then ccbill are dead in the water for me.

Like others on this thread other programs are doing well so blows the whole industry suffering idea out of the water (yes I know its not the same now!) But funny how non ccbill sponsors have overtaken what used to be my biggest payers.

CCBill literally changed something back in sept/oct 2009 and has never been the same since, and no one has ever seem to put their finger (with proof) on what ccbill changed.

They may be good for fillers, hoping for the odd signup or its just wasted traffic that could go to non ccbill sponsors....annoying thing is the beauty of ccbill having all payments lumped under one roof, wish it could been the same with nats...

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12-05-2013, 11:06 AM

for me something changed at the end of 2012
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12-05-2013, 11:15 AM

2012? as they were reclining was kinda expected anyway, definitely agree about more single memberships then recurring ones on this thread too!
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12-05-2013, 11:22 AM

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12-05-2013, 11:47 AM

Guess its more a affiliate thing, don't see many ccbill sponsors queuing up to drop them!

Although some have been disenchanted and switched to nats ect
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12-05-2013, 11:51 AM

Originally posted by smoothballs

Guess its more a affiliate thing, don't see many ccbill sponsors queuing up to drop them!

I don't think sponsors will admit their ratios have also gone to shit

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12-05-2013, 11:57 AM

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12-05-2013, 01:07 PM

Originally posted by jscott

I don't think sponsors will admit their ratios have also gone to shit

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12-05-2013, 01:28 PM

My two cents, more of the programs I work with now offer a single mother offer with no re-bill. Two years ago most just had there single month price and the recurring was just there if the customer never caught it.

Since then my re-bills have dropped as well.

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12-05-2013, 02:49 PM

rebills and signup ratios are lower with ccbill but the problem is they actually pay. I tried to run some stats on non ccbill processed sites. hard to do cause some processors use them in a rotation but when I factor in the ones who haven't paid it ends up being close enough to not really worry about it. That being said why do some of the top sites use them still? Seems like ccbill is a great option for the solo site or the smaller niche site.

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12-05-2013, 02:51 PM

I guess the good thing is that they always pay on time, and the sales and rebills keep getting smaller and smaller according to just about anybody on this board who is not a robot
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12-05-2013, 02:52 PM

the flex stats thing is confusing i can't even view hits uniques etc..
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12-05-2013, 03:23 PM

My CCBill rebills are the same as they've always been. Some guys will always flail around for a scapegoat though, instead of taking an honest look at what *they* should be doing differently.

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