Master_Yoba,
Your toons are funny. The B2's are serious. You don't even see them coming till it's too late.

Take out the Silos and you got nothing. I bet there's a couple Trident Subs sitting in the Korean Bay right now.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

And we are about to attack Iraq! What fucking idiots the government is!

There saber rattling again.... They must be hungry or something. LOL
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/bomber/b2-dvic166.jpg
No worries here! :thumbsup

http://www.airbornelaser.com/special...tballistic.jpg

http://www.airbornelaser.com/special...es/cutaway.jpg

Also see THAAD System

A NICE ANIMATION OF THE SYSTEM IS HERE:

http://www.acq.osd.mil/bmdo/bmdolink/html/conops.html

INFO:

http://www.acq.osd.mil/bmdo/bmdolink/html/thaad.html

since north koreas long range technology is new, maybe they will miss and hit canada.

We live in a world full of crazies. Now, after iraq is taken care of, north korea will learn of its fate. There are very high possibilities than that dog eater president of theirs will launch his missiles if he sees his end has arrived.
The problem is that the US will need to preempt any strikes from nk, they will need to be sure that they hit all potential dangers so that nothing is left to be launched. They will need good intelligence, but the problem is that the best kind of intelligence, human agents that is, is tough to obtain. They don't have a lot of gringos in nk. And our sk friends seem to have second thoughts about helping us to the fullest.
So, if it comes to a shoot out match, it may get ugly for a couple of spots in the US, as far as nk is concerned, they're won't be much of them left.
Mr dog eater is probably suicidal, even more so than saddam, so he does not really care if his acts mean the end of nk. If sk was a little bit more intelligent, they would understand that if it comes to a shooting match, they will suffer greatly from the radiations flowing their way, but unfortunately, when people eat too much dog meat, it tends to get to their brain.
One good point is that it would take at least 20 to 30 minutes for a ballistic missile to reach the US from nk, that would give ample time to the US submarines patroling the korean sea to launch and would give somewhat a decent amount of time to the US to try and shoot down the incoming with means available.

http://66.250.131.173/poster/nk4.jpg

Btw, right guy looks like Chinese. So it can be more seriously than u think :2 cents:

Do you realise that the entire US of A lives in constant paranoi.. I think it is really what keeps them going. They have to think someone is going to kill them, or that they have to kill someone else or they just can't keep going..


You ban the import of oil into N. Korea, therefor preventing them from using their oil powerplants you better believe they are going to turn on a reactor and say 'fuck you' instead of going without electricity.. I sure as hell would

one could only hope

I think you watch too much TV....

Or you just possibly believe everything you see?

That statement just isn't true of the average American.
It isn't a topic of conversation, and with the exception of New York and Washington DC, this whole thing has had very little effect on our daily lives.

Most of my friends have not even been following national news as much as they do the local news, just like always.

To be honest - I think most people here (the ones you do not see on TV) just assume we're going to war in a few weeks - we'll blow their shit away and life will go back to normal.

Not saying that is right or wrong - but Americans do not live in constant paranoia - if anything, we're not worried enough.

I'm very offended by this comment. I'm asian and I'm sure there are a couple asian people here who don't eat dogs or cats. The europeans used to sell human meat in butcher shops with very long lines during the famine, what do you have to say about that?

Was it free range human?

Most were children. The body would be laying on a table in the shop and the customers would come in and request which part they wanted and it would be cut right there.

Yeah this is up and in full effect already from what I've read...at any given moment there are as many as 7 of these planes flying a large loop over the northern hemisphere. Each capable of tracking and destroying up to 25 targets simultaneously. My numbers could be wrong but I think they're close...

With this defense system the need for us to launch our own nukes is put in the backseat as the system would most likely catch sight and down most missiles so soon they'd fall down quite near the launch site.

I think NoCarrier should go hide under his bed till all the bad people go away.

Don't look at me I didn't vote for him.

Well - someone is a fucking idiot...

Wonder if it's the whole US Government and a large part of the free world..... or YOU ?


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh



By the way -

what is your background and experience in world affairs to offer such opinions and call others odoits?

:winkwink:

:eek7

Those comments won't hurt me. I'll still pay you a beer at the Montreal convention.

:drinkup

> I think NoCarrier should go hide under his bed till all the
> bad people go away.

Why? He's one of the best informed contributors to this thread and one of the few who has the guts to be a realist. He's staying!

I believe our government has something up its sleeve to blow up missiles that will surprise the whole world. I'd rather believe that than worry about dying in nuclear armageddon. :2 cents:

I believe they are still testing this concept. They only have a couple of tester planes. I doubt it will be in place for 5-10 years.

I'm just courious...
what in the world do you base that assumption on?

I would think it would require a pretty serious security clearence to really have any idea at all what our abilities are.

The system is currently in "Testing" mode.

Closer to operationnal, but not yet. Testing phase should continue until 2006.

http://www.acq.osd.mil/bmdo/bmdolink/pdf/thaad.pdf

Do you really think you're going to find accurate information about the nation's most sophicated, most advanced, secret weapon systems... on a thread on the WEB?

Come on man - be serious.

:1orglaugh

Secret? If it was secret, then why such information about the system is available?

So you are saying it is operational? Are you part of that "secret" project to know such information? :1orglaugh

We all know the army won't divulge specific information about their program, but I am using the information available to give what I think is the most accurate information available to the public.

Come on man, we all know the truth is out there. :Graucho :1orglaugh

And ourselves :helpme

Ahhhh - now think,
If it were a secret system, or secrets about the system - then it WOULDN'T be available would it?

So what IS available on threads on web sites just might not be the most accurate information to be quoting, or believing in.

The only thing available to YOU - is exactly what we want available to our enemies.

Follow what I meant now?

The USSR always found quantity more important than quality, therefore always had more weapons. So thats not true, they could destroy the USA, the country is a lot smaller anyway. It's just the American counter-attack that was kind of something to worry about ;)

But yeh I don't think North Korea could actually *destroy* the USA, but it could sure cripple the whole economy by taking out some major areas. Think about what would happen if the usa would get that weak! Koreans there mean business, they say if USA attacks them they will strike back, I'm sure they will so I doubt USA will ever go after them alone.

Did you read my last reply? I guess not. I never told you that the PDF file from the Missile Defense Agency was accurate, but I'd rather believe that freaking file than some information on an x-file fan site.

What you are telling me, we all knew that already. Old info.

You did not answer me, what makes you think it is operational? Your feminine intuition ?

It would have taken a LOT more than their quanity of weapons for Russia to have had a chance - With the poor quality of almost everything they made then, the really bad moral and poorly trained military and a society who didn't have the means to support itself - I can't see Russia actually winning as ever being an option.

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But yeh I don't think North Korea could actually *destroy* the USA, but it could sure cripple the whole economy by taking out some major areas. Think about what would happen if the usa would get that weak! Koreans there mean business, they say if USA attacks them they will strike back, I'm sure they will so I doubt USA will ever go after them alone.

That is even more unlikely......

Sure I read it. You were quoting some thread as though you knew what you were talking about was fact.

I simply questioned that - saying the truth about defense systems aren't going to found on web site threads, shouldn't be quoted as fact - or really believed at all.

If that was "old news" - why did you do it anyway.


To answer your question - I have no personal knowledge of the status of 'that' system.




:winkwink:

Uhm if North Korea was a real nuclear threat it would already have had so many US nukes from B1B's, B2's, B52's. Trident subs, ICBMS and every other nuke launching plane, hole, bus, boat and space cruiser to blast a hole clean through to the other side of the earth where North Korea used to be like a big giant plastic fucking friendship bead.

The US doesn't need to "wait in fear" for someone to throw the first punch because they've got the bigger guns. On the contrary, the US is that big huge guy that slaps you in the lips just as soon as you gut drunk and crazy enough to stop calling him "sir". There are no pigeons in downtown Pyongyang because the starving people of North Korea ATE THEM ALL. This country is a threat to small animals and other living sources of protein, but I doubt they are a military force to be reckoned with.

Sorry, not convinced.

By the way, since the 15,000 "daisy cutter" bomb wasn't kicking enough ass, the US has made an even bigger, 21,000 pound bomb.

http://www.themercury.news.com.au/co...55E401,00.html


I really don't think the US, with the largest, most advanced military on the planet, will "hide in fear" from North Korea and hope they don't attack.

That's like Mike Tyson hiding from a 6 year old hemophiliac on ecstacy trying to hand him a love letter.

When I was talking about the "Old news" I was refering to the fact that "we know" that the military isn't going to give away "secret" or sensitive information about their program. But they need to keep some kind of public relation.

You said I was quoting a thread?! :eek7 Uh?! What thread. I was quoting a PDF file from the Missile Defense Agency

This is the link I gave you. It's not a thread. :winkwink:

http://www.acq.osd.mil/bmdo/bmdolink/pdf/thaad.pdf

I'm glad someone finally mentioned this..

How convenient it is that certain information is made newsworthy.. either through the news media, or the net..

Anyone know what "disinformation" is?

Been there.. done that.. got a t-shirt..

Rest assured that should there be any kind of missile attack from any foreign nation, the U.S. soil will never feel it.

So keep on discussing all that you have read, or watched on tv.. you don't have a drop in the bucket's worth of knowledge about what's really to be known.. nuff said...

:thumbsup :glugglug :thumbsup

what good will turning them on do. they have 2 wire the dam houses, install power polls, all kinds of other shit.
Take a look of a picture of NK at night from a satellite photo. Ain't none, lights.

me i don't care if you are offended, if the only thing I had 2 eat was human, well I'd most likely go after some Asian, I hear they are kind of tender.

Boy, this World War III shit is really shaping up:

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/03/04/n.k...ers/index.html

Grab ya hard hats people, we're in for a rollercoaster nuke.

hahahaghaha lol

N.Korea only has a few nukes, but don't forget they have tons of chemical weapons.

You think only 1-2 US cities would be targeted if they decided to launch such a serious attack? Hell no!

The extent of the damage they could inflict isn't numbered by their nukes, but rather the amount of long range missles they have.

:1orglaugh So True Dave!

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/as...02/nkorea.cbw/
" Pyongyang is thought to have about 5,000 tons of chemical agents, plus an ample stock of biological agents. "

They even have that VX chemical...

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWN. It was not a message board thread. It was the Missile Defense Agency morons :1orglaugh

Open your God damn windows when you paint the house.

Wow we're fucked.

Time to watch the world go to hell and let the undeveloped areas remain. Unfortunately they eventually will develop and the world will be be back in the same mess it is now.

one chance North Korea better make it count because we will respond with enough to wipe you and the south(at this point who cares) off the map.

According to this article, it's not speculation; they have already proven that they *can* get a missile to Alaska:
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nati...7272311970.htm

No comment on the validity of this information; just putting it out there as food for thought. For all I know it could be propoganda meant to stir up the NK population and make them feel good about themselves.

Still, it doesn't make me feel any better. If they got one that far, you can rest assured they've been making improvements to get one farther.

Who cares..... all this talk of how far they can launch their weapons is just academic anyway. At the end of the day if they really wanted to nuke the USA no-one and I do mean no-one could stop them.

They could sneak nukes in from the coast (eg suitcase nukes), they could put one on a plane and detonate just over US soil, launch one from outer space. Strategically, theres millions of ways they could nuke the US and lets not forget that the nuclear weapon is 1940's or 1950's technology and that 9/11 was a form of attack that we never really anticipated. The weapons that have and are being developed in secret today must be shockingly powerful. Of course, the reverse may also apply where concerns US nuking korea.

The new attacks we can expect in the future will be increasingly inventive and devastating so let us be humbled by this knowledge.

Having said that, this whole topic should be oriented towards solving the dispute and going back to flower picking peace, not towards who has a bigger dick and how far they can stick it. We all know war means everyone gets shafted.

We need Bruce Willis to save us again.........