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AaronM · 03-03-2003, 10:08 PM

50 BIATCH!

NETbilling · 03-03-2003, 11:20 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM
50 BIATCH!

Darn AaronM,

I always miss #50.

Mitch

SoBeGirl Video · 03-04-2003, 03:54 PM

Mithch, If what you say is true, and you would NEVER NEVER steal a customers email, then why is it important that you scrub your own signups. You state that in your email and I quote "We do all our own scrubbing". If you are being fair in your business then why should that give you any advantage? The scrubbing should be the same for your own paysites and the paysites for your netbiliing customers. Or, do you scrub differently for yourown sites than you do for those of your billing customers. Those are your own writings. Answer that one please.

NETbilling · 03-04-2003, 11:41 PM

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Originally posted by SoBeGirl Video
Mithch, If what you say is true, and you would NEVER NEVER steal a customers email, then why is it important that you scrub your own signups. You state that in your email and I quote "We do all our own scrubbing". If you are being fair in your business then why should that give you any advantage? The scrubbing should be the same for your own paysites and the paysites for your netbiliing customers. Or, do you scrub differently for yourown sites than you do for those of your billing customers. Those are your own writings. Answer that one please.

Sobe,

Sorry for the delay.

Here is yur answer to the question above. We provide all of our scrub filters up front to our merchants and they can set the thresholds themselves if they want to increase conversions while minimizing fraud. It is one of the great features of our system and the reason why so many webmasters see a 20% average increase in signups when coming from another processor. I have my scrubbing different for each of my sites, based on previous fruad in those sites and member loyalty. Niche sites typically have a lower rate of fraud then general sites. Our Netbilling cleints have all of the same tools that I use for my own sites... another way that my "webmaster experience" has benefited our clients.

Does that answer your question?

Mitch

stocktrader23 · 03-04-2003, 11:55 PM

What are netbillings fees for adult sites? Also, how do they differ from the other major processors? I don't see the name thrown around as much.

Gateway69 · 03-05-2003, 12:03 AM

well.. life goes on..

everyone does a bit of everything its just a matter of life and business. There is nothing wrong with that, it may chap your hide but you probably been in the industry long enough to realize that.

NETbilling · 03-05-2003, 12:07 AM

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Originally posted by Gateway69
well.. life goes on..

everyone does a bit of everything its just a matter of life and business. There is nothing wrong with that, it may chap your hide but you probably been in the industry long enough to realize that.

For sure Gateway. Looking forward to seeing you in a few weeks.

Pornkings · 03-05-2003, 12:11 AM

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Originally posted by SoBeGirl Video
seems fine? The billing company should not be competing with its own customers. That is a confilict of interests

I agree completely..

NETbilling · 03-05-2003, 12:14 AM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23
What are netbillings fees for adult sites? Also, how do they differ from the other major processors? I don't see the name thrown around as much.

stocktrader23,

We charge only 1.5% and 15¢ per transaction + merchant account fees (typically 7-9% total for both). Our fees are the same for adult or mainstream, product sales or memberships. The difference with Netbilling compared to IPSPs is that our merchants use their own merchant account with our system. You get paid daily and have full control over all aspects as you wish. One misconception is thaqt people think that f they get a merchant account, they must handle their own customer service. This is not true. We handle it all, just as the IPSPs (third party processors) do.

We actually process for many of the large programs and many, many small ones as well. You can read the 4 page feature on us in the new issue of Klixxx magazine and ask questions about us on any of the boards. Although many of our merchants do not frequent GFY, but do frequent Netsurprise, Ynot, hahahahahahaha, Oprano etc...

Would you iike to demo our system? I think you would be very impressed.

Visit: netbilling.com

Toll Free within the US: (888)357-8166
Outside the US: (661)252-2456
Thank you, Mitch Farber

stocktrader23 · 03-05-2003, 12:19 AM

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Thank you, Mitch Farber

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Thanks for the quick response. Will definately look into it.

NETbilling · 03-05-2003, 12:25 AM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23
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Thanks for the quick response. Will definately look into it.

Thank you Stocktrader. I look forward to hearing from you.

Mitch

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Pornkings,

We actually do traffic trades with several of our merchants and have helped many of them buid their businesses when they were just starting out by sending them some free traffic as well. It is not a conflict in our merchants eyes.

Mitch

slavdogg · 03-05-2003, 02:13 AM

i guess you dumbasses dont know who owns jettis ??

nothing wrong with billing CO running its own paysites.
As Simon said its all about trust, and in Netbillings case i've never done biz with them but over the years i've only heard good things about Mitch and his company

and btw many billing companies, CC and ACH run their own programs.

Kimmykim · 03-05-2003, 02:32 AM

Don't get all touchy there Slav, the separation between Jettis and CQ is as strong as it is with any of their other clients. Kjell doesn't do CQ stuff that I know of and CQ people don't have access to anything Jettis that does not pertain to CQ.

And as we all know, Ken's too busy walking funny and being sick to do anything ;)

slavdogg · 03-05-2003, 04:24 AM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim
Don't get all touchy there Slav, the separation between Jettis and CQ is as strong as it is with any of their other clients. Kjell doesn't do CQ stuff that I know of and CQ people don't have access to anything Jettis that does not pertain to CQ.

And as we all know, Ken's too busy walking funny and being sick to do anything ;)

Kimmy in no way did i mean that they're in each others biz or share info. I know for a fact CQ and jettis run very good and honest operations.

NETbilling · 03-05-2003, 12:11 PM

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Originally posted by slavdogg
i guess you dumbasses dont know who owns jettis ??

nothing wrong with billing CO running its own paysites.
As Simon said its all about trust, and in Netbillings case i've never done biz with them but over the years i've only heard good things about Mitch and his company

and btw many billing companies, CC and ACH run their own programs.

slavdogg,

Thanks for the kind word. We have always done things up front and honest.
Jettis and Netbilling are not the only ones either that have deal with or run their own paysites. Nothing wrong with it at all as long as their is no conflict.

Mitch

Anthony_A · 03-05-2003, 02:32 PM

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Originally posted by drunkdollars
Netbilling im my opinion is not gonna mail your members..

What is the difference if a processor mailed your members to a sponsor program..

Bottom line is trust your processor

No, the Bottom Line is, TRUST NO ONE.

SoBeGirl Video · 03-05-2003, 02:37 PM

With all due respect to Mitch at Netbilling he is a damn good guy. But the practice that these bililng companies all think is ok I think stinks.

Thee Johnclave · 03-05-2003, 03:51 PM

Just to clarify on Mitch's post (and Mitch I know no harm was intended). Jettis does not own any paysites. Jettis is privately held, by a number of owners, some of whom do own paysites. None of these shareholders, or those without paysite affiliation, are involved in the day to day operations of Jettis.

Jettis is a one man operation...it's all Kjell. ;-)

03-04-2003, 11:55 PM	#55
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03-05-2003, 12:03 AM	#56
Gateway69 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,510	well.. life goes on.. everyone does a bit of everything its just a matter of life and business. There is nothing wrong with that, it may chap your hide but you probably been in the industry long enough to realize that. __________________ Gateway - Tech Guru Dreaming Computers IG

03-05-2003, 03:51 PM	#68
Thee Johnclave The Billz Collectaz Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 632	Just to clarify on Mitch's post (and Mitch I know no harm was intended). Jettis does not own any paysites. Jettis is privately held, by a number of owners, some of whom do own paysites. None of these shareholders, or those without paysite affiliation, are involved in the day to day operations of Jettis. Jettis is a one man operation...it's all Kjell. ;-) __________________ Seeking large traffic deals. john at pptme dot com

03-03-2003, 10:08 PM	#51
AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	50 BIATCH!

03-04-2003, 03:54 PM	#53
SoBeGirl Video So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Planet earth Posts: 2,493	Mithch, If what you say is true, and you would NEVER NEVER steal a customers email, then why is it important that you scrub your own signups. You state that in your email and I quote "We do all our own scrubbing". If you are being fair in your business then why should that give you any advantage? The scrubbing should be the same for your own paysites and the paysites for your netbiliing customers. Or, do you scrub differently for yourown sites than you do for those of your billing customers. Those are your own writings. Answer that one please.

03-05-2003, 02:13 AM	#62
slavdogg Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,570	i guess you dumbasses dont know who owns jettis ?? nothing wrong with billing CO running its own paysites. As Simon said its all about trust, and in Netbillings case i've never done biz with them but over the years i've only heard good things about Mitch and his company and btw many billing companies, CC and ACH run their own programs.

03-05-2003, 02:32 AM	#63
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Don't get all touchy there Slav, the separation between Jettis and CQ is as strong as it is with any of their other clients. Kjell doesn't do CQ stuff that I know of and CQ people don't have access to anything Jettis that does not pertain to CQ. And as we all know, Ken's too busy walking funny and being sick to do anything ;)

03-05-2003, 02:37 PM	#67
SoBeGirl Video So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Planet earth Posts: 2,493	With all due respect to Mitch at Netbilling he is a damn good guy. But the practice that these bililng companies all think is ok I think stinks.