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  • BlackCrayon
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jun 2003
    • 19634

    #136
    Originally posted by sperbonzo
    You keep bringing up the "mansion" thing. Whatever I have, or don't have, now; you should know this:

    In 1993 I got out of the army completely broke, because I had been sending all my money to a woman, (like an idiot), and ended up homeless on the streets in L.A.

    Unemployment was about 11%, I had debts, all of my possessions had been taken when the storage wasn't paid, so all I had was two civilian shirts, a pair of jeans, and some Class A's and BDU's in a duffle bag. My mother, back east, was in no position to help, and my father was in Hong Kong or something, and was long gone. I didn't bother trying to contact either one.

    I slept under the porch of the West Hollywood community center, on top of my stuff to keep it from being stolen. I dug through the trash to get newspaper job ads, and walked however many miles to the ones that allowed you to just walk in without calling. I would throw my duffle in the dumpster behind the buildings, walk up and fill out an app and interview, and then go back and get my stuff and walk miles back to West Hollywood park. I found out where all of the programs for food were, mostly run by churches, and I never had to beg one time to eat. I made friends with the guy that ran the community pool, and he let me take showers in there and I used the bits of left over soap that people had left in the shower stalls.

    I busted my ass all day, every day, with no phone, and no car, to get a job, and after 2.5 months, I did. Another 2 months later I was supervisor of my section of the call center, and I had moved into a crap weekly fleabag motel. From there I worked my way up, into the beginnings of internet billing, and by 2002, I had started my own company. No one lent me anything, or paid off anything for me, or bought me anything.

    I know that I was still more privileged than most growing up, NOT from some kind of financial advantage from my parents, but rather being taught that no one who is not being physically forced is a victim. That you make your own way in the world, and though there is nothing wrong with choosing whatever level you wish to live, you should never blame someone else for your own choices, or think that they are not yours to make.

    There were many other lessons they gave me, but the end result is that they gave me the mindset that there is no "they" that will hold me back, there is only myself and my choices. I have made choices that have caused me to lose money at times, and I would make them again, because they are part of my nature, but I'm not going to say "woe is me", or "boo hoo" that someone else has more.




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    that's a great story and i'd never say you or anyone else doesn't deserve the success they have i just don't get why some get it and others don't, despite hard work, etc. i guess i have to figure out what choices are keeping me from having a mansion.
    Last edited by BlackCrayon; 10-31-2013, 10:17 AM.
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    • baddog
      So Fucking Banned
      • Apr 2001
      • 107089

      #137
      Originally posted by American Psycho

      I do quote well now but took me 10 yrs and ridicilous amout of work hours to get to a point of moderate success where if my dad wasn't a lazy ass , didnt disappear and helped it would have taken me 2 years to get where I am now.
      How did you arrive at that conclusion?

      Originally posted by trevesty
      I think I know who you're talking about, though out of respect I won't say their name. Very nice guy indeed. I've seen "hot shots" at shows in the past look at him funny for wearing a plain t-shirt and Levi's.

      If it's not the same guy, then there's apparently another extremely well off, well respected, yet low key guy in the industry who owns(either wholly or partially) a LOT of big properties.
      I know a couple in adult that fit that description.

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      • ilnjscb
        Confirmed User
        • Jun 2009
        • 8972

        #138
        Originally posted by Minte
        How many square foot house and on how much land is considered a mansion?
        A mansion is > 7000 sq/feet. Sorry Europeans. For you a mansion is > 800 sq/metres

        "There is no strict bitch (sic) definition of how many rooms a house has to have before it can be termed a mansion, but realtors generally use the classification for houses with at least 7,000 square feet (650 m2) of floorspace. Until the mid 20th century the European mansion would often have a hall, two or three salons or drawing rooms, library, billiards room, ball room, dining room, breakfast room, morning room, study, and numerous bedrooms. Until the middle of the last century European mansions were often short of bathrooms, often only two or three in a house of 20 plus bedrooms. In addition to the principal bedrooms would be far more for the staff, usually on the uppermost or attic floors."

        Mansion

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        • O MARINA
          I'm clockin' ya, Versace shade watchin' ya
          • Mar 2003
          • 13796

          #139
          Originally posted by BlackCrayon
          that's a great story and i'd never say you or anyone else doesn't deserve the success they have i just don't get why some get it and others don't, despite hard work, etc. i guess i have to figure out what choices are keeping me from having a mansion.

          Great read this thread. Hard to believe your humble story Michael!


          Internet Billionaires carry on.

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          • ilnjscb
            Confirmed User
            • Jun 2009
            • 8972

            #140
            Originally posted by sperbonzo
            You keep bringing up the "mansion" thing. Whatever I have, or don't have, now; you should know this:

            In 1993 I got out of the army completely broke, because I had been sending all my money to a woman, (like an idiot), and ended up homeless on the streets in L.A.

            Unemployment was about 11%, I had debts, all of my possessions had been taken when the storage wasn't paid, so all I had was two civilian shirts, a pair of jeans, and some Class A's and BDU's in a duffle bag. My mother, back east, was in no position to help, and my father was in Hong Kong or something, and was long gone. I didn't bother trying to contact either one.

            I slept under the porch of the West Hollywood community center, on top of my stuff to keep it from being stolen. I dug through the trash to get newspaper job ads, and walked however many miles to the ones that allowed you to just walk in without calling. I would throw my duffle in the dumpster behind the buildings, walk up and fill out an app and interview, and then go back and get my stuff and walk miles back to West Hollywood park. I found out where all of the programs for food were, mostly run by churches, and I never had to beg one time to eat. I made friends with the guy that ran the community pool, and he let me take showers in there and I used the bits of left over soap that people had left in the shower stalls.

            I busted my ass all day, every day, with no phone, and no car, to get a job, and after 2.5 months, I did. Another 2 months later I was supervisor of my section of the call center, and I had moved into a crap weekly fleabag motel. From there I worked my way up, into the beginnings of internet billing, and by 2002, I had started my own company. No one lent me anything, or paid off anything for me, or bought me anything.

            I know that I was still more privileged than most growing up, NOT from some kind of financial advantage from my parents, but rather being taught that no one who is not being physically forced is a victim. That you make your own way in the world, and though there is nothing wrong with choosing whatever level you wish to live, you should never blame someone else for your own choices, or think that they are not yours to make.

            There were many other lessons they gave me, but the end result is that they gave me the mindset that there is no "they" that will hold me back, there is only myself and my choices. I have made choices that have caused me to lose money at times, and I would make them again, because they are part of my nature, but I'm not going to say "woe is me", or "boo hoo" that someone else has more.




            .
            Amazing - being homeless would scare the piss out of me. A couple of times I remember when I was young I had to mow lawns to eat and make rent, but that is the closest I ever came to that. I guess nothing worries you at all if you can come back from that.

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            • adendreams
              Confirmed User
              • Jul 2009
              • 1887

              #141
              seriously good read Sperbonz
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              • spooks69
                Confirmed User
                • Feb 2013
                • 109

                #142
                Is this what the OP wanted to know?

                Growing up I started out Middle Class. Then we moved to take care of my grandmother, and my parents didn't have to work. My dad chose to because he'd grown up in the family business (Electrical contractor) and missed it.

                We ate at the country club, yacht club, dined with Billionaires (Late 80's early 90's) we had two houses, on the same Island in the Florida Keys, both bordering the country club. I took Tennis Lessons, and I had clothes that weren't custom tailored but were custom altered by a tailor. I wore Tuxedos to New Years events at 12.
                By most standards we were a "Rich" Family. Not "Old Money" rich mind you. But....Then my parents divorced, and shortly thereafter, Grandma Died.

                The estate was split up and the next Generation took over. The business was sold, the houses sold, the jewelry sorted and divided.

                Luckily I was young, I started out Middle Class, and always had a good work ethic thanks to my dad. His parents bailed him out, but he refused to bail us kids out. I started working at 14, in the dishroom of a pizza restaurant, started working at a radio station at 15, and held both jobs plus Highschool. Started my own Mobile DJ company at 15, and quit the restaurant. Paid cash for everything, with the earning from my jobs.

                At the same time my dad was failing at investing his money in New business ventures, and spent it all. He spent more money in 5 years, than he'd made in the previous 15. Hell My sisters wedding was a $25k affair in the middle of nowhere.

                So, I grew up Middle class, then Rich, then so poor I lived in a Camper (Not a house Trailer a camper) with my mom. My parents were so bad with Money they both inherited hundreds of thousands of dollars and have NOTHING to show for it.

                After High School I moved out on my own. I've always worked a FT job, and had something going on the side. I've worked my way up in my chosen profession, but know that if I truly aspire to own 2 houses in the Florida Keys again, I'll have to work harder at building a strong foundation of residual income. And nobody's going to do it for me.

                So it doesn't matter if you grew up Rich, Poor, Middle Class, its alll about what you DO WITH IT.... THis is the only county in the world that I know f that you can literally turn a simple idea into a profitable business with nothing but hard work and determination. You don't even need CREDIT if you're willing to WORK HARD!

                Oh and before you ask....I bought my first car with cash I earned, 2nd one too, Didn't go to college because I couldn't afford to, and I couldn't get financial aid, and bought mmy first house on my own with no help from my parents, Grandparents, ETC.

                My Sister works in a bread factory, my brother drives a bus, and my dad runs an electronics recycling company I started, then gave to him when I moved back to Florida this year.

                I may have had a period of "Growing up rich" But I'm self made, and still making! ;)
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                Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work.
                ~Thomas Edison

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                • keysync
                  Living the Dream
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 2375

                  #143
                  Originally posted by spooks69
                  Is this what the OP wanted to know?

                  Growing up I started out Middle Class. Then we moved to take care of my grandmother, and my parents didn't have to work. My dad chose to because he'd grown up in the family business (Electrical contractor) and missed it.

                  We ate at the country club, yacht club, dined with Billionaires (Late 80's early 90's) we had two houses, on the same Island in the Florida Keys, both bordering the country club. I took Tennis Lessons, and I had clothes that weren't custom tailored but were custom altered by a tailor. I wore Tuxedos to New Years events at 12.
                  By most standards we were a "Rich" Family. Not "Old Money" rich mind you. But....Then my parents divorced, and shortly thereafter, Grandma Died.

                  The estate was split up and the next Generation took over. The business was sold, the houses sold, the jewelry sorted and divided.

                  Luckily I was young, I started out Middle Class, and always had a good work ethic thanks to my dad. His parents bailed him out, but he refused to bail us kids out. I started working at 14, in the dishroom of a pizza restaurant, started working at a radio station at 15, and held both jobs plus Highschool. Started my own Mobile DJ company at 15, and quit the restaurant. Paid cash for everything, with the earning from my jobs.

                  At the same time my dad was failing at investing his money in New business ventures, and spent it all. He spent more money in 5 years, than he'd made in the previous 15. Hell My sisters wedding was a $25k affair in the middle of nowhere.

                  So, I grew up Middle class, then Rich, then so poor I lived in a Camper (Not a house Trailer a camper) with my mom. My parents were so bad with Money they both inherited hundreds of thousands of dollars and have NOTHING to show for it.

                  After High School I moved out on my own. I've always worked a FT job, and had something going on the side. I've worked my way up in my chosen profession, but know that if I truly aspire to own 2 houses in the Florida Keys again, I'll have to work harder at building a strong foundation of residual income. And nobody's going to do it for me.

                  So it doesn't matter if you grew up Rich, Poor, Middle Class, its alll about what you DO WITH IT.... THis is the only county in the world that I know f that you can literally turn a simple idea into a profitable business with nothing but hard work and determination. You don't even need CREDIT if you're willing to WORK HARD!

                  Oh and before you ask....I bought my first car with cash I earned, 2nd one too, Didn't go to college because I couldn't afford to, and I couldn't get financial aid, and bought mmy first house on my own with no help from my parents, Grandparents, ETC.

                  My Sister works in a bread factory, my brother drives a bus, and my dad runs an electronics recycling company I started, then gave to him when I moved back to Florida this year.

                  I may have had a period of "Growing up rich" But I'm self made, and still making! ;)
                  Good for you!
                  I would be thrilled to own one house in the keys. It's easily my favorite place I've been.
                  My parents used to take our family spring breaks in Islamorada. They almost bought manny and palmas on grassy key at one point.
                  I wish they would have..


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                  • spooks69
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 109

                    #144
                    Originally posted by keysync
                    Good for you!
                    I would be thrilled to own one house in the keys. It's easily my favorite place I've been.
                    My parents used to take our family spring breaks in Islamorada. They almost bought manny and palmas on grassy key at one point.
                    I wish they would have..
                    Thanks....It's my goal to own at least a small place down there again, but right now I need to make some $$$$$
                    www.camgirlbank.com

                    Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work.
                    ~Thomas Edison

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                    • GAMEFINEST
                      Make STACK$
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 14477

                      #145
                      this is probably the best thread I have seen in a long time on gfy
                      Compound interest.

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                      • sperbonzo
                        I'd rather be on my boat.
                        • May 2003
                        • 9750

                        #146
                        Originally posted by O MARINA
                        Great read this thread. Hard to believe your humble story Michael!


                        Internet Billionaires carry on.

                        Mind you, it didn't start out that humble. I left ASU in the early 80s with a BS in Zoology, and a minor in Music production, (father paid for the first year, worked my way through the rest), moved to San Diego, and then L.A., where I became a recording engineer in the 80s, and did ok. The reason that I went in the army in 1990 was that I was having such major issues with my crazy girlfriend that it was taking down my music career and I decided that the army was something I had always wanted to try, and this seemed like a good time.


                        Originally posted by ilnjscb
                        Amazing - being homeless would scare the piss out of me. A couple of times I remember when I was young I had to mow lawns to eat and make rent, but that is the closest I ever came to that. I guess nothing worries you at all if you can come back from that.
                        Yeah, I had some pretty crazy, bizarre, and scary things happen on the streets, but it probably helped that I had just come out of the army and serving in Desert Storm.

                        The one thing it has done is to make me grateful for the things in my life. When my son grows up I will NEVER give him stuff. I will teach him about life, and I will give him endless love, but he is going to work for everything he gets. I think that giving things to kids robs them of the amazing feeling that you get from creating and earning things for yourself. I feel so so sorry for those kids that were given sports cars and boats when they are teenagers.... They are cursed, in that for the rest of their lives nothing will give them the thrill and deep satisfaction of creating enough wealth for themselves in order to afford something really nice....





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                        • spooks69
                          Confirmed User
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 109

                          #147
                          Originally posted by sperbonzo
                          Mind you, it didn't start out that humble. I left ASU in the early 80s with a BS in Zoology, and a minor in Music production, (father paid for the first year, worked my way through the rest), moved to San Diego, and then L.A., where I became a recording engineer in the 80s, and did ok. The reason that I went in the army in 1990 was that I was having such major issues with my crazy girlfriend that it was taking down my music career and I decided that the army was something I had always wanted to try, and this seemed like a good time.




                          Yeah, I had some pretty crazy, bizarre, and scary things happen on the streets, but it probably helped that I had just come out of the army and serving in Desert Storm.

                          The one thing it has done is to make me grateful for the things in my life. When my son grows up I will NEVER give him stuff. I will teach him about life, and I will give him endless love, but he is going to work for everything he gets. I think that giving things to kids robs them of the amazing feeling that you get from creating and earning things for yourself. I feel so so sorry for those kids that were given sports cars and boats when they are teenagers.... They are cursed, in that for the rest of their lives nothing will give them the thrill and deep satisfaction of creating enough wealth for themselves in order to afford something really nice....





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                          Well said!! And an incredible story too!!
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                          Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work.
                          ~Thomas Edison

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                          • Markul
                            Likes Pie
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 12403

                            #148
                            I think I borrowed $200 from my parents when I moved out just prior to turning 18. That and some old furniture is what I was sent along with. No money from above, had to earn my way from day 1.

                            But I live in a rich country with free education, so I consider that a spoon of some sort.
                            But.... I pulled out...

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                            • O MARINA
                              I'm clockin' ya, Versace shade watchin' ya
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 13796

                              #149
                              Originally posted by GAMEFINEST
                              this is probably the best thread I have seen in a long time on gfy


                              Yep

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                              • dyna mo
                                just a fucking jerk
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 68184

                                #150

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