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  • Mutt
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    • Sep 2002
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    #1

    Once a Commie Always a Commie

    Putin recalls 'romantic years' of Soviet youth

    (AFP) ? 16 hours ago

    Moscow ? The Soviet Union may be long gone but President Vladimir Putin, a former KGB spy, has revealed that he retains fond memories of the Communist Party's youth wing.

    Putin spoke on the eve of the 95th anniversary of the establishment of the Komsomol, the youth division of the Communist Party, marked on Tuesday.

    "This anniversary is an important date in the history of our state, in the lives of millions of people both in Russia and far outside its borders," Putin said in a statement.

    The Russian strongman waxed nostalgic, saying memories of one's Komsomol youth united people from all walks of life, from scientists and public figures to artists and war veterans.

    "Because Komsomol is not only politics, it's true friendship and love, student years and the romanticism of new roads, common goals and dreams and the most important -- being part of the fate of your homeland," he said on Monday.

    Komsomol, an abbreviation of the All-Union Lenin Communist Union of Youth (known in Russian as the VLKSM), was established in 1918, a year after the Bolshevik Revolution.

    Membership in the organisation was considered a stepping stone to top jobs, and several generations wore red Komsomol pins featuring Lenin's profile as a badge of honour.

    The Soviet leadership cleverly harnessed the enthusiasm of Komsomol youth to build badly needed infrastructure like the monumental Baikal-Amur railroad.

    Putin expressed hope that modern youth groups would find the "time-tested VLKSM traditions" useful in their work.

    He once famously said that the collapse of the Soviet Union was the "greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century."

    Since coming back to the Kremlin for a third term last year, he sharpened his patriotic rhetoric in a bid to rally support after huge protests against his decade-long rule.
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  • H-Tom
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    • Jul 2005
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    #2


    Ah... the good old communism, I would love to see it in every country where majority of people wants to fight the reach.

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    • Paul&John
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      • Aug 2005
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      #3
      fucking communists.. they fucked up every country in eastern eu including the morality of people
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      • Antonio
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        • Oct 2001
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        #4
        Originally posted by H-Tom

        Ah... the good old communism, I would love to see it in every country where majority of people wants to fight the reach.
        100 million?????? Really?????

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        • Paul&John
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          • Aug 2005
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          #5
          Originally posted by Antonio
          100 million?????? Really?????
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_ki...munist_regimes

          Mass killings occurred under some Communist regimes during the twentieth century with an estimated death toll numbering between 85 and 100 million
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          • Antonio
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            • Oct 2001
            • 14136

            #6
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag

            According to a 1993 study of archival Soviet data, a total of 1,053,829 people died in the Gulag from 1934 to 1953.[6] However, taking into account that it was common practice to release prisoners who were either suffering from incurable diseases or on the point of death,[12][13] the actual Gulag death toll was somewhat higher, amounting to 1,258,537 in 1934-53, or 1.6 million deaths during the whole period from 1929 to 1953.[14] Some estimates for total number deaths in the Gulag go beyond 10 million.

            So, let's see .... official number is 1,053,829, which is more or less equal to 100 million. In taht case, I have close to $50000000000 in my bank account; zeros, they don't really matter, you can add as many as you want

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            • Paul&John
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              • Aug 2005
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              #7
              Originally posted by Antonio
              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag

              According to a 1993 study of archival Soviet data, a total of 1,053,829 people died in the Gulag from 1934 to 1953.[6] However, taking into account that it was common practice to release prisoners who were either suffering from incurable diseases or on the point of death,[12][13] the actual Gulag death toll was somewhat higher, amounting to 1,258,537 in 1934-53, or 1.6 million deaths during the whole period from 1929 to 1953.[14] Some estimates for total number deaths in the Gulag go beyond 10 million.

              So, let's see .... official number is 1,053,829, which is more or less equal to 100 million. In taht case, I have close to $50000000000 in my bank account; zeros, they don't really matter, you can add as many as you want
              Gulags are one thing only... that ~100 million number includes the WW2, so everything.

              from wiki:
              USSR: 20 million deaths; China: 65 million deaths; Vietnam: 1 million deaths; North Korea: 2 million deaths; Cambodia: 2 million deaths; Eastern Europe: 1 million deaths; Latin America: 150,000 deaths; Africa: 1.7 million deaths; Afghanistan: 1.5 million deaths; the international Communist movement and Communist parties not in power: about 10,000 deaths.
              I'm not saying those numbers are 100% correct, but it's still a lot.. and we haven't talked about the post-effects of the regime in eastern EU yet!
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              • just a punk
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                • Jun 2003
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                #8
                Originally posted by Paul&John
                the WW2, so everything.
                I always thought they were killed by Nazi Germans
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                • ZiggiZiggiCrew
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by H-Tom


                  Ah... the good old communism, I would love to see it in every country where majority of people wants to fight the reach.
                  it is not GULAG, it is nazi konzlager, check below





                  Originally posted by Paul&John
                  Gulags are one thing only... that ~100 million number includes the WW2, so everything.

                  from wiki:


                  I'm not saying those numbers are 100% correct, but it's still a lot.. and we haven't talked about the post-effects of the regime in eastern EU yet!
                  can not see 6 million deaths jewish, no Holocost in Wiki?
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                  • Barry-xlovecam
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                    • Jun 2010
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                    #10
                    It's Putin's proud legacy

                    In all fairness, life was shit for the workers under the Tzars too.
                    3 of my grandparents lived it ...

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                    • Paul&John
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                      • Aug 2005
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by ZiggiZiggiCrew
                      can not see 6 million deaths jewish, no Holocost in Wiki?
                      The thread isn't about Nazis.. Of course they did horrible/fucked up things and killed millions of people, but people usually forgot about the terrors of the Communist regime..
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                      • just a punk
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                        • Jun 2003
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                        #12
                        I was born in the USSR and I remember Soviet times very clear. But I don't remember any terror however
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                        • wehateporn
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                          • Apr 2007
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                          #13
                          Rothschild funded the Red Army, the Romanov Tsars wouldn't do business with them

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                          • Paul&John
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by CyberSEO
                            I was born in the USSR and I remember Soviet times very clear. But I don't remember any terror however
                            Maybe you were born in a country which wasn't occupied?

                            But here in eastern EU there is clear history of communist terror = soviet tanks in peaceful countries occupied by the Soviets:
                            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungari...lution_of_1956
                            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_...Czechoslovakia
                            ...

                            and the brainwashing of the population went on till 1989 and we are still suffering from the consequences..
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                            • Sid70
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                              • Dec 2002
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by CyberSEO
                              I was born in the USSR and I remember Soviet times very clear. But I don't remember any terror however
                              Fuck you, terror was everywhere, everyday life was meant to make people suck donkey balls, live miserably and suffer. That was enough, i publicly tell you FUCK YOU, idiot.
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                              • oppoten
                                NAME THE JEW
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 4793

                                #16
                                Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

                                I'm British and probably ignorant, but it looks to me like Russia's had the same style of government since Ivan the Terrible.

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                                • just a punk
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                                  • Jun 2003
                                  • 32393

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Paul&John
                                  Maybe you were born in a country which wasn't occupied?
                                  Of course. I was born in Soviet Russia
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                                  • just a punk
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                                    • Jun 2003
                                    • 32393

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Sid70
                                    Fuck you, terror was everywhere, everyday life was meant to make people suck donkey balls, live miserably and suffer. That was enough, i publicly tell you FUCK YOU, idiot.
                                    LOL at you, clown

                                    P.S. Ты еще и нищеброд-неудачник, на сколько я знаю. Такие ничтожества всегда винят всех, кроме себя. Поплачь, может полегчает
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                                    • just a punk
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                                      • Jun 2003
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by oppoten
                                      I'm British and probably ignorant, but it looks to me like Russia's had the same style of government since Ivan the Terrible.
                                      Ignorance is bliss
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                                      • Choopa_Pardo
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                                        #20
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                                        • Paul&John
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                          Of course. I was born in Soviet Russia
                                          Of course then there was no terror for you, your people were terrorizing our
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                                          • just a punk
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                                            • Jun 2003
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Paul&John
                                            Of course then there was no terror for you, your people were terrorizing our
                                            Where are you from, the terrorized one?
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                                            • mineistaken
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                                              • Apr 2007
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                              Where are you from, the terrorized one?
                                              Russia terrorized its occupied countries. So if you were russian of course you were not terrorized.
                                              So I can just say fuck you for trying to insinuate something.

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                                              • Antonio
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                                                • Oct 2001
                                                • 14136

                                                #24
                                                Bah, communism sucked donkey’s balls, but if you think that it was all bad, then you don't have a clue. I for one am willing to give up some of the so called freedoms just to see crime back to the way it was during the communism.

                                                40+ years of communism with one armed bank robbery as in ONE and this is how it went down - guy robs a bank, a month later guy gets caught, another month later guy gets executed. Guess what? Nobody wants to rob banks anymore.

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                                                • mineistaken
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                                                  • Apr 2007
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Paul&John
                                                  Gulags are one thing only... that ~100 million number includes the WW2, so everything.
                                                  I think his point was that the picture was completely wrong as it said that gulag was responsible for 100 million. On top of that that picture is from nazi camp. So somebody very stupid made that picture

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                                                  • just a punk
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                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                    • 32393

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by mineistaken
                                                    Russia terrorized its occupied countries. So if you were russian of course you were not terrorized.
                                                    And how exactly you were terrorized by Russia?
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                                                    • globofun
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                                                      • Aug 2005
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by ZiggiZiggiCrew
                                                      What the fuck is that?

                                                      This guy is getting ready for some public announcement or something?
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                                                      • alex.missyouth
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by globofun
                                                        What the fuck is that?

                                                        This guy is getting ready for some public announcement or something?
                                                        Gotta be from WWII. Disturbing to say the least.
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                                                        • Paul&John
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                                          Where are you from, the terrorized one?
                                                          You know denying the crimes of Communists is the same as denying the holocaust. There is nothing funny about it..
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                                                          • Sid70
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                                                            • Dec 2002
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by cyberseo
                                                            lol at you, clown

                                                            p.s. Ты еще и нищеброд-неудачник, на сколько я знаю. Такие ничтожества всегда винят всех, кроме себя. Поплачь, может полегчает
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                                                            • Sid70
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                                                              • Dec 2002
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                                              LOL at you, clown
                                                              It's not funny at all.

                                                              You seem to be proud to be born in the Soviet Russia... means you support Putin and shit... I wont sit taking shit near you.
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                                                              • Manfap
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                                                                It's Putin's proud legacy

                                                                In all fairness, life was shit for the workers under the Tzars too.
                                                                3 of my grandparents lived it ...
                                                                How old are you?

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                                                                • MaDalton
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                                                                  • Feb 2004
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Paul&John
                                                                  Maybe you were born in a country which wasn't occupied?

                                                                  But here in eastern EU there is clear history of communist terror = soviet tanks in peaceful countries occupied by the Soviets:
                                                                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungari...lution_of_1956
                                                                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_...Czechoslovakia
                                                                  ...

                                                                  and the brainwashing of the population went on till 1989 and we are still suffering from the consequences..
                                                                  may i add http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uprisin...n_East_Germany

                                                                  hardly anyone denies that Stalins Russia was a terror regime - including killing hundreds of thousands of people

                                                                  after Stalin it got better but until 1989 i wouldn't call Russia and the whole eastern bloc free, democratic or liberal
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                                                                  • Sid70
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                    may i add http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uprisin...n_East_Germany

                                                                    hardly anyone denies that Stalins Russia was a terror regime - including killing hundreds of thousands of people

                                                                    after Stalin it got better but until 1989 i wouldn't call Russia and the whole eastern bloc free, democratic or liberal
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                                                                    • just a punk
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                                                                      • Jun 2003
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Sid70
                                                                      means you support Putin and shit...
                                                                      WHAAAAAAT??? Putin is pro-Soviet??? Woohaha! He is the one of the most richest and corrupted capitalists in the World. You're not just a clown, you are an idiot
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                                                                      • just a punk
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                                                                        • Jun 2003
                                                                        • 32393

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                        hardly anyone denies that Stalins Russia was a terror regime - including killing hundreds of thousands of people
                                                                        True that but it can't be even compared with the modern NATO terror (Yugoslavia, Iraq and Afghanistan)

                                                                        You know denying the crimes of NATO is the same as denying the Holocaust.
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                                                                        • Sid70
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                                                                          • Dec 2002
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                                                          WHAAAAAAT??? Putin is pro-Soviet??? Woohaha! He is the one of the most richest and corrupted capitalists in the World. You're not just a clown, you are an idiot
                                                                          You IS pro-soviet if you support Putin. Putin is a thief, not capitalist.

                                                                          Last edited by Sid70; 10-30-2013, 09:16 AM.
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                                                                          • just a punk
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                                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                                            • 32393

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                            but until 1989 i wouldn't call Russia and the whole eastern bloc free, democratic or liberal
                                                                            We way have different opinions about the exact date (1989 for you or 1991 for me), be you are right there was not freedom, democracy and liberalism. Neither than and neither now - in any country of the World. These words are just... words. Show me at least one country which you can call free, liberal and democratic one. The only "country" what comes on my mind is Somalia
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                                                                            • oppoten
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                                                              Ignorance is bliss
                                                                              What I'm saying is that you've always had centralized autocracy. And the "workers" under communism were bonded to the state in the same way that the serfs were bonded to the land.

                                                                              And yes, maybe I'm ignorant, but I'm learning about your country because it fascinates me. I will make a prediction...that communism, and perhaps even the Soviet Union in some form, will be back one day. Putin's probably looking at China and thinking "damn, they made it work".

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                                                                              • dyna mo
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                                                                                • Dec 2008
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Mutt, well played.

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                                                                                • MaDalton
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                                                                  We way have different opinions about the exact date (1989 for you or 1991 for me), be you are right there was not freedom, democracy and liberalism. Neither than and neither now - in any country of the World. These words are just... words. Show me at least one country which you can call free, liberal and democratic one. The only "country" what comes on my mind is Somalia
                                                                                  it's all a matter of definition but i rather live in CZ now than in 1980
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                                                                                  • just a punk
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Sid70
                                                                                    You IS pro-soviet if you support Putin. Putin is a thief, not capitalist.
                                                                                    Today is the day of great discovers. I've found out that I support Putin. What's next? I'll try to guess. You'll tell everybody that I support Hitler. Am I right? Go on broke man, go on

                                                                                    P.S. И не забудь похмелиться наутро. Я вижу ты опять изрядно нажрался сегодня.
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                                                                                    • just a punk
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                                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                                      • 32393

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by oppoten
                                                                                      Soviet Union in some form, will be back one day
                                                                                      Will? Oh, noes! It's back already. Will see how long it will least
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                                                                                      • just a punk
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                                                                                        • Jun 2003
                                                                                        • 32393

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                                        it's all a matter of definition but i rather live in CZ now than in 1980
                                                                                        It's not about CZ only. I bet you will say it about ANY country. Russia of 1980 sucks, compared to modern Russia. Germany of 1980 sucks, compared to modern Germany and so on, and so on...
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                                                                                        • Sid70
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                                                                                          • Dec 2002
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          No matter what you support or not.
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                                                                                          Last edited by Sid70; 10-30-2013, 09:39 AM.
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                                                                                          • just a punk
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                                                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                                                            • 32393

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Sid70
                                                                                            Thanks, fits you fine.
                                                                                            You're drunk man. Get some sleep.
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                                                                                            • MaDalton
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                                                                              It's not about CZ only. I bet you will say it about ANY country. Russia of 1980 sucks, compared to modern Russia. Germany of 1980 sucks, compared to modern Germany and so on, and so on...
                                                                                              i was pretty happy in western Germany in 1980...
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                                                                                              • Sid70
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                                                                                Will? Oh, noes! It's back already. Will see how long it will least
                                                                                                so happy finding a 'Union' word in wikipedia?
                                                                                                Pretty common for a coder to be fairly good at manipulating data while totally ignoring the whole picture.
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                                                                                                • Sid70
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                                                                                                  • Dec 2002
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                                                  i was pretty happy in western Germany in 1980...
                                                                                                  while I sucked donkey balls in Soviet Ukraine, mate, I need a hug )))
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                                                                                                  • just a punk
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                                                    i was pretty happy in western Germany in 1980...
                                                                                                    Happier than in modern Germany? I can't believe, really. Everything is changing, and the life gets more comfortable since the time passes. All these small things we have now (mobiles, internet etc) change our life much more dramatic than political regimes. I would prefer to live somewhere in the modern "communistic" Chinese city (e.g. Honkong, Shanghai or even Beijing) now rather than in "free and democratic" Berlin or Hamburg of 1980's
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