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MO's college classmate is V.P. of the $600 million dollar debacle.

10-25-2013, 10:05 PM

First Lady Michelle Obama?s Princeton classmate is a top executive at the company that earned the contract to build the failed Obamacare website.

Toni Townes-Whitley, Princeton class of ?85, is senior vice president at CGI Federal, which earned the no-bid contract to build the $678 million Obamacare enrollment website at Healthcare.gov. CGI Federal is the U.S. arm of a Canadian company.

Townes-Whitley and her Princeton classmate Michelle Obama are both members of the Association of Black Princeton Alumni.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/25/mi...#ixzz2io1Ldgqj

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10-25-2013, 10:12 PM

678M worth of website which a government can pay somebody who can maintain less than a million.
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10-25-2013, 10:21 PM

This looks bad...but it could be harmless. I think the company that built that website is one of those companies who specialize in getting fat government contracts, than they are at making a good product.

Plan on this being the lead story every 5 minutes on FOX news for the next 6 months.

The website will work eventually, but conservatives will drain this well dry because its really all they have right now. They can't legislate, or run things the way they like. All they can do is throw tantrums for the next few years. Trust me, they will never have that magic self awareness moment to make them stop being obstructionist assholes.

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10-25-2013, 11:02 PM

Originally posted by bronco67

This looks bad...but it could be harmless. I think the company that built that website is one of those companies who specialize in getting fat government contracts, than they are at making a good product.

Plan on this being the lead story every 5 minutes on FOX news for the next 6 months.

The website will work eventually, but conservatives will drain this well dry because its really all they have right now. They can't legislate, or run things the way they like. All they can do is throw tantrums for the next few years. Trust me, they will never have that magic self awareness moment to make them stop being obstructionist assholes.

My bet is the Democrats will end up delaying the law to save face and the 2014 race.

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10-26-2013, 05:55 AM

Can someone explain to me what $600 million is buying us here? Please tell me this pays for more than a website - like a secure hosting facility and a call center, RIGHT?

$600 million cannot be for a single website.

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10-26-2013, 06:03 AM

They should have hosted somewhere other than Hostgator. Unlimited yes, but fairuse right?

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10-26-2013, 06:05 AM

Originally posted by bronco67

This looks bad...but it could be harmless. I think the company that built that website is one of those companies who specialize in getting fat government contracts, than they are at making a good product.

Like Halliburton?

These same arguments were made for Halliburton when they were getting all of the big Iraq reconstruction projects. And really it's probably true. There are only X amount of companies that can handle such projects, it's going to be a tight circle with a lot of overlap. When you are running with the big boys, the world is pretty small.

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10-26-2013, 10:23 AM

Zuckerburg and a couple friends can build built something that scaled to over 100,000,000 users in 9 months or so, for 1000s of Dollars.... And the government can't do shit for $600,000,000.00 and 5 years except offer excuses.

Where are all the fucking idiots on this board that were talking about how awesome the government would be at running your life? All those who were ardently defending the government and its efficiency and ability to pull something like this off?

Strange... there is always a lot of bluster before the fact and never an "i was wrong" after the fact.

The same fucking idiots who will spout all the "those who would give up liberty for security deserve neither" bullshit are the same fucking idiots allowing government to take over their lives for the perception of security, allow the government to require your participation by law and then stand by and clap in feverish support as they do the usual fucked up, inept and wasteful job of doing it.

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10-28-2013, 09:51 PM

Originally posted by bronco67

This looks bad...but it could be harmless.

I guess we can throw harmless out the window.

CGI Federal executive spent ?Christmas with the Obamas?

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/28/cg...#ixzz2j5VdBZs1

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10-28-2013, 10:03 PM

Originally posted by Rochard

Can someone explain to me what $600 million is buying us here? Please tell me this pays for more than a website - like a secure hosting facility and a call center, RIGHT?

$600 million cannot be for a single website.

It isn't just a website.

That money also covers them putting together the call center people and customer service people that will help those who have questions. It also went to others who helped worked with the various insurance companies that are selling policies and training for other workers to be able to help people.

Even with all that, $600 million is a crazy number.
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10-28-2013, 10:15 PM

It's sick and the government deserves every bit of the heat it's taking - this time it's the Democrats, you want to be in White House, do your job well or feel the wrath of the public and your rivals, same as Benghazi, the buck has to stop somewhere.

I'd like to know how much of that $600M went to the development of this 'website', and I'd also like to know what the scope of the 'website' is, what its' functions are. I can't imagine any website, costing more than $1M to develop, and that $1M is generous.

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10-28-2013, 10:32 PM

Originally posted by Mutt

It's sick and the government deserves every bit of the heat it's taking - this time it's the Democrats, you want to be in White House, do your job well or feel the wrath of the public and your rivals, same as Benghazi, the buck has to stop somewhere.

I'd like to know how much of that $600M went to the development of this 'website', and I'd also like to know what the scope of the 'website' is, what its' functions are. I can't imagine any website, costing more than $1M to develop, and that $1M is generous.

I'd like to know how many bids they took on this. A lot of the time the government doesn't even take multiple bids they just give the contract to the person they like best.
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10-28-2013, 10:33 PM

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I'd like to know how many bids they took on this. A lot of the time the government doesn't even take multiple bids they just give the contract to the person they like best.

No-bid contract. Daily caller was being nice to use the term "earned" rather than "given" which is par for the Democratic course .

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10-28-2013, 10:40 PM

The whole CGI story is outrageous.
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10-28-2013, 10:44 PM

Originally posted by AVN Theo

The whole CGI story is outrageous.

Wait until we see the billion dollar figures.

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10-28-2013, 10:52 PM

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First Lady Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is a top executive at the company that earned the contract to build the failed Obamacare website.

Toni Townes-Whitley, Princeton class of ’85, is senior vice president at CGI Federal, which earned the no-bid contract to build the $678 million Obamacare enrollment website at Healthcare.gov. CGI Federal is the U.S. arm of a Canadian company.

Townes-Whitley and her Princeton classmate Michelle Obama are both members of the Association of Black Princeton Alumni.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/25/mi...#ixzz2io1Ldgqj

This article is the definition of slanted "journalism". They draw some links, but have nothing approaching a direct connection to the white house. It's a bunch of innuendo.

Googled "Toni Townes-Whitley Michelle Hussein (just kidding) Obama": I found a number of rightie sites/blogs all quoting/chopping up the original article and/or quoting other rightie sites/blogs and/or adding a few innuendos of their own. It's like spun content for SEO

This is how the right & left wing propaganda-shperes work

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10-28-2013, 10:56 PM

Originally posted by DTK

This article is the definition of slanted "journalism". They draw some links, but have nothing approaching a direct connection to the white house. It's a bunch of innuendo.

Googled "Toni Townes-Whitley Michelle Hussein (just kidding) Obama": I found a number of rightie sites/blogs all chopping up the original article and/or quoting other rightie sites/blogs and/or adding a few innuendos of their own. It's like spun content for SEO

This is how the right & left wing propaganda-shperes work

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10-28-2013, 10:59 PM

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10-28-2013, 11:02 PM

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10-28-2013, 11:04 PM

Originally posted by DTK

This article is the definition of slanted "journalism". They draw some links, but have nothing approaching a direct connection to the white house. It's a bunch of innuendo.

Googled "Toni Townes-Whitley Michelle Hussein (just kidding) Obama": I found a number of rightie sites/blogs all chopping up the original article and/or quoting other rightie sites/blogs and/or adding a few innuendos of their own. It's like spun content for SEO

This is how the right & left wing propaganda-shperes work

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10-28-2013, 11:15 PM

"The U.S. delays come about a year after Ontario abandoned a CGI-managed effort to start a diabetes registry. CGI underestimated how long the work would take and failed to effectively manage completion of project components, the province’s auditor said in a 2012 report. Lorne Gorber, CGI’s senior vice president of investor relations in Montreal, didn’t return messages seeking comment yesterday."
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10-28-2013, 11:21 PM

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"The U.S. delays come about a year after Ontario abandoned a CGI-managed effort to start a diabetes registry. CGI underestimated how long the work would take and failed to effectively manage completion of project components, the province?s auditor said in a 2012 report. Lorne Gorber, CGI?s senior vice president of investor relations in Montreal, didn?t return messages seeking comment yesterday."

"Their most famous government project was for the Canadian Firearms Registry. The registry was estimated to cost in total $119 million, which would be offset by $117 million in fees. That's a net cost of $2 million. Instead, by 2004 the CBC (Canada's PBS) was reporting costs of some $2 billion - or a thousand times more expensive.

"Yeah, yeah, I know, we've all had bathroom remodelers like that. But in this case the database had to register some 7 million long guns belonging to some two-and-a-half to three million Canadians. That works out to almost $300 per gun - or somewhat higher than the original estimate for processing a firearm registration of $4.60. Of those $300 gun registrations, Canada's auditor general reported to parliament that much of the information was either duplicated or wrong in respect to basic information such as names and addresses."

The gun registry website had remarkable similarities to the Obamacare signup website, with a 1-800 number that didn't work and a database that needed improving. However it couldn't be improved.

"But it proved impossible to "improve" CFIS (the Canadian Firearms Information System). So CGI was hired to create an entirely new CFIS II, which would operate alongside CFIS I until the old system could be scrapped. CFIS II was supposed to go operational on January 9, 2003, but the January date got postponed to June, and 2003 to 2004, and $81 million was thrown at it before a new Conservative government scrapped the fiasco in 2007. "

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10-28-2013, 11:57 PM

Originally posted by AVN Theo

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11-14-2013, 07:08 PM

Originally posted by AVN Theo

ill be visiting again next week! ill send you dates early this time heh

Still waiting on those dates, malaka...

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11-14-2013, 07:56 PM

A no bid contract, I can see this if the company has such an outstanding track record that no other company will do. But isn't this the company that really fucked up some Canadian projects?
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11-15-2013, 07:45 AM

I will do it for 60mills, where to apply for this nobid jobs?

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11-15-2013, 09:01 AM

Originally posted by Mutt

It's sick and the government deserves every bit of the heat it's taking - this time it's the Democrats, you want to be in White House, do your job well or feel the wrath of the public and your rivals, same as Benghazi, the buck has to stop somewhere.

I'd like to know how much of that $600M went to the development of this 'website', and I'd also like to know what the scope of the 'website' is, what its' functions are. I can't imagine any website, costing more than $1M to develop, and that $1M is generous.

The cost of the actual website was only.................

$96Million dolllars and change. The link to the IRS and Social Security cost the other $500m

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11-16-2013, 08:27 AM

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My bet is the Democrats will end up delaying the law to save face and the 2014 race.

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