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NETbilling 10-24-2013 09:39 AM

It's funny how the PC guys come in here just to be haters.

If you enjoy building computers and constantly fixing them and dealing with viruses and malware and a shitty Windows OS, then a PCM is perfect for you.
The rest of us make the initial investment up front to pay slightly more, get an awesome OS and hardware that lasts a very long time typically, and get to be way more productive overall.

Mitch

dezmondel 10-24-2013 09:56 AM

that's one fine looking case... wouldn't hold a hi-end water cooled GFX card for shit, but it sure is a looker! edit: looking closer at the specs, it probably won't have to... 2 GPUs... now that's power!

but more importantly, how did they design that page? is it HTML 5?

would sell my liver for a landing page like that!

Chosen 10-24-2013 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 19845746)

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Chosen 10-24-2013 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MPGdevil (Post 19846441)

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edgeprod 10-24-2013 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by NETbilling (Post 19846506)
It's funny how the PC guys come in here just to be haters

It's weird, isn't it? Why even GO to a thread where the people it's designed to reach just think you're ignorant for your uninformed opinions?

KillerK 10-24-2013 11:26 AM

Would be interesting to see a equally priced pc.

That preforms to the same levels in video editing.

_Richard_ 10-24-2013 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MPGdevil (Post 19846441)

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vdbucks 10-24-2013 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 19846492)
If I'd gone with a PC, I guess I would have "saved" $2,800 in the same way that going with a Hyundai would have "saved" me $80,000 per car over my previous purchases of the Porsches, BMWs, or Viper. I just prefer the Mac.

That is a terrible analogy, especially considering that what you get in the latest Mac is older than what's available on the retail market. Oh and, Mac's use the same hardware as PCs. Open up any mac and you'll see Samsung, Toshiba, Intel, Nvidia, ATI, Seagate, Adata, etc hardware inside. So comparing a mac as a high end sports car and a pc as a crappy hyundai is just unintelligent.

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 19846492)
I prefer not to use a PC-based Hackintosh. I find that a real Macintosh works better for me with Mac OS X. I don't want to deal with constantly worrying that my Hackintosh will need specific updates to keep it current with Apple's software, etc. My Mac works natively, and I'm happy with that.

It takes me less time to install OS X on my PC whose hardware is better than the latest Diaper Genie Pro than it does to install Windows. And if you're not a complete moron then you'd also know how to set up the hack pro where installing updates from apple won't break anything.



But then, some people are made to tinker, build and the like; and others are made to be consumers.

pimpmaster9000 10-24-2013 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 19845849)
Why is that bad? My last Mac Pro desktop was $4,200, and has lasted me since 2009. I'm only upgrading to stay current, all of my apps still run lightning quick with only dual Xeons (8 cores) and 12GB of RAM in this machine.

I'll be going for the $4,000 option and upgrading to the dual AMD FirePro D700. That's 12GB of VRAM total, 2048 stream processors, 384-bit-wide memory bus, 264GB/s memory bandwidth, and 3.5 teraflops performance.

you are paying for intel processors, sent from intel, to apple...

these components are made by human beings, not aliens, and in china...

2MuchMark 10-24-2013 01:06 PM

Lol to all the haters who have never even tried an Apple product but call others who recognize value, "fanboys".

vdbucks 10-24-2013 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 19846768)
Lol to all the haters who have never even tried an Apple product but call others who recognize value, "fanboys".

Lol to all the fanboys who think their Macs are made with something other than the same parts that PC's are made of, but for 2-3x the cost.

Seriously though, explain this value that you seem to believe you get with an outdated computer that is 2-3 times more expensive than the latest and greatest hardware available on the market?

seeandsee 10-24-2013 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19845522)
Check out the new mac-pro ????? Fuck the haters I'm getting one.


http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7338/v46k.png

http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/


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what to say, this really looks great

L-Pink 10-24-2013 01:20 PM

Flawless, trouble free service for 15 years, great support when needed. Why would I switch when I want to buy something new?

MrMaxwell 10-24-2013 01:21 PM

It is an amazing design, but it's stupid.
Now anyone who wants to spend enough for an automobile can have a star trek looking machine on their desk which probably can't be upgraded or anything

MrMaxwell 10-24-2013 01:22 PM


venus 10-24-2013 01:39 PM

6 processors? really... must be an apple thing...it does not have 6 processors, it has 6 cores.
but 6 cores has been put for awhile, I have a 6 core intel i7 processor and 512 gig SSD hard drive and four 3TB sata 6 hard drives..all inside my computer.. running at a spiffy 4.2 ghz with a liquid cooler


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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19845832)
6 processors at $4K on the new mac pro...


edgeprod 10-28-2013 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by vdbucks (Post 19846734)
But then, some people are made to tinker, build and the like; and others are made to be consumers.

My time is far too valuable to tinker. I can pay any idiot to do that for me if I need it (which I don't, I run a real Mac).

vdbucks 10-28-2013 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 19851202)
My time is far too valuable to tinker. I can pay any idiot to do that for me if I need it (which I don't, I run a real Mac).

Sorry that work consumes your life?

Funny thing though... you can pay any idiot to build you a computer and install OS X on it for you, yet you are incapable of doing so yourself.

You then say you own a "real mac" but at the end of the day, a "real mac" is nothing more than an overpriced PC that runs OS X operating system.

I built a PC for far less than a "real mac", and it runs OS X 100% perfectly.

As far as time goes, I have the freedom of being able to spend time on things other than work.
As far as money goes, I saved a solid 50% or more by building my own.

Seems to me that I win when it comes to both time and money.

:pimp

edgeprod 10-28-2013 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by vdbucks (Post 19851231)
Sorry that work consumes your life?

I'm not sure why you inferred that from the data provided. My time is valuable to me in all regards, whether it be in work or leisure pursuits.


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Originally Posted by vdbucks (Post 19851231)
Funny thing though... you can pay any idiot to build you a computer and install OS X on it for you, yet you are incapable of doing so yourself.

I build robots, which is one of my hobbies (building computers is NOT, since it's essentially a glorified lego set requiring almost no specific skill-sets and hardly any intellect). I hardly think that it's beyond the scope of my abilities.

I'm not implying that I *would* pay someone to do this for me. If you offered me a PC with Mac OS X on it for $1, or a genuine Mac at the customary Apple price, I am going to choose the one with the warranty and official support included every time. This is just part of how I streamline my life. Chasing down and solving technical problems isn't engaging or challenging to me, so I don't derive enjoyment from it. While I certainly CAN grow my own corn, I'd rather pay a farmer to do it. If you ENJOY growing corn, like you seem to enjoy tinkering with computers, more power to you. I just don't.


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Originally Posted by vdbucks (Post 19851231)
You then say you own a "real mac" but at the end of the day, a "real mac" is nothing more than an overpriced PC that runs OS X operating system.

... with a warranty and support from Apple, that I don't have to expend any energy maintaining or configuring.


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Originally Posted by vdbucks (Post 19851231)
I built a PC for far less than a "real mac", and it runs OS X 100% perfectly.

That works for you, and that's great. I don't view $4,000-$6,000 as worth the trade-off of the couple of hours initial build, and continued involvement in a community I have no interest in (Hackintosh). It's just dry and boring to me, sorry.


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Originally Posted by vdbucks (Post 19851231)
As far as time goes, I have the freedom of being able to spend time on things other than work.

And you choose to spend it on something like this, so that's great. I choose not to; it's not intellectually challenging, it's not stimulating, and it's not fun for me. I've built computers, I've built lots of things, "been there, done that," I don't continue to do it.


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Originally Posted by vdbucks (Post 19851231)
As far as money goes, I saved a solid 50% or more by building my own.

If that's important to you, then that's fine. I gave Apple my credit card number and didn't look back. I continue to do it every time a revision comes along, for my laptop, my desktop, and my phone. I like having the latest and greatest from the brand I prefer, and I like having genuine products, not knockoffs.

2MuchMark 10-28-2013 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by vdbucks (Post 19846778)
Lol to all the fanboys who think their Macs are made with something other than the same parts that PC's are made of, but for 2-3x the cost.

Seriously though, explain this value that you seem to believe you get with an outdated computer that is 2-3 times more expensive than the latest and greatest hardware available on the market?

The value is not just in its parts. Thats what everyone keeps missing.


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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 19851202)
My time is far too valuable to tinker. I can pay any idiot to do that for me if I need it (which I don't, I run a real Mac).


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vdbucks 10-28-2013 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 19851252)
I'm not sure why you inferred that from the data provided. My time is valuable to me in all regards, whether it be in work or leisure pursuits.

Well, so many people make this argument as a reason for not doing something, but to me it just makes it sound like work consumes them.

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 19851252)
I build robots, which is one of my hobbies (building computers is NOT, since it's essentially a glorified lego set requiring almost no specific skill-sets and hardly any intellect). I hardly think that it's beyond the scope of my abilities.

I never suggested it was difficult, in fact I stated otherwise in other threads related to this topic. You could have just as easily said though that you could build it yourself if you wanted, but you didn't. You stated that you could pay any idiot to do it for you which suggests that you are incapable of building one yourself.

By the way, are EEPPROMs still used for robotics? I used to dabble in that a while back, not specifically in robots but close enough.

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 19851252)
I'm not implying that I *would* pay someone to do this for me. If you offered me a PC with Mac OS X on it for $1, or a genuine Mac at the customary Apple price, I am going to choose the one with the warranty and official support included every time. This is just part of how I streamline my life. Chasing down and solving technical problems isn't engaging or challenging to me, so I don't derive enjoyment from it. While I certainly CAN grow my own corn, I'd rather pay a farmer to do it. If you ENJOY growing corn, like you seem to enjoy tinkering with computers, more power to you. I just don't.

... with a warranty and support from Apple, that I don't have to expend any energy maintaining or configuring.

I never suggested that you *would* either.

The whole warranty argument is pretty weak though. Every component I buy is under warranty, some parts -- I'd argue the most important -- come with a lifetime or limited lifetime warranty. With a "real Mac" you get the 1, or 3 year warranty depending on whether you opted to pay extra, and once it's up, good luck. Where you'd be stuck having to replace an entire machine, I'd simply swap out a part.

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 19851252)
That works for you, and that's great. I don't view $4,000-$6,000 as worth the trade-off of the couple of hours initial build, and continued involvement in a community I have no interest in (Hackintosh). It's just dry and boring to me, sorry.

I own and operate a business. Keeping costs down wherever possible is the name of the game. See, the less my company has to spend on things means more money in my pocket.

I have no involvement in the hackintosh community. I find that it's faster and easier to just figure a problem out for myself rather than try to get 'community' help.


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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 19851252)
And you choose to spend it on something like this, so that's great. I choose not to; it's not intellectually challenging, it's not stimulating, and it's not fun for me. I've built computers, I've built lots of things, "been there, done that," I don't continue to do it.

I never argued that it was. Building a PC takes little more than common sense. It can be argued though that these days, very few people have common sense.

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 19851252)
If that's important to you, then that's fine. I gave Apple my credit card number and didn't look back. I continue to do it every time a revision comes along, for my laptop, my desktop, and my phone. I like having the latest and greatest from the brand I prefer, and I like having genuine products, not knockoffs.

Sorry but your argument fails twice here.

1. The only Mac thus far that has even close the "the latest and greatest" is the Mac Pro coming out soon. The rest of the time you pretty much end up with last years technology in this years "new" [insert apple product here]. Oh and when something new comes along, 9 times out of 10 I don't have to replace my entire system, I simply replace X component.

2. You cannot call something a knock-off when your "new" "real Mac" has the same exact components inside as my PC does, well, last years PC anyway. Same intel processors, same nvidia/ati/intel graphics, same [insert cheapest bidder here] memory/hard disks/etc. If you were to ever open up your "real Mac" you'd find more logos of other companies inside than you do of Apple. The Apple logo is only on the outside heh.

Mike Dutch 10-28-2013 11:43 PM

Getting 2 as soon as they are out, spending $4K for a machine that works 4-5 years and makes you happy and makes a shitload of money seems a great deal to me.

LouiseLloyd 10-28-2013 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CamBoss (Post 19845844)

1000s of PC fanboys right now:

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MPGdevil 10-29-2013 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Dutch (Post 19851672)
Getting 2 as soon as they are out, spending $4K for a machine that works 4-5 years and makes you happy and makes a shitload of money seems a great deal to me.

Personally I'd rather spend $2K every second year and always have a computer that is up to date.


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