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Old 10-21-2013, 08:15 AM   #1
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Do you belive the universe is part of somethin much larger? Like we are a cell on something HUGE?

I'm a non believer in the Jesus Christ, hocus-pocus shit, but it irks me to think that we serve a greater purpose even being that of a parasite or a unicellular task... and I mean the whole universe as one single cell.

What are your thoughts on this? The wife is gone for two days and the shrooms are just beginning to kick in. Blow my fucking mind.

I mean come on... it has to be bigger than us, and I mean way bigger. Time is relative to those that are personally observing it so basically a 250 year old oak tree would laugh at use being alive for 80 or so and that hummingbird on your porch spends it's two years of life (I have no fucking idea what the lifespan is of a hummingbird is, just using it as an example) enjoying it's like as if it were 80 when it dies.

WTF!???
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Old 10-21-2013, 08:25 AM   #2
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Old 10-21-2013, 08:30 AM   #3
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Finally I agree with you Harmon; our universe is a small part of something much much larger
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Old 10-21-2013, 08:34 AM   #4
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After reading the first sentence I was going to say, yes, sometimes I feel like this on LSD/mushrooms/etc.. 'Unity' ...
But I don't believe neither in the zombie carpenter and his dad above the clouds who always watches you and decides if you go to hell or heaven or whatever.

I can wish you nothing else, but to Have a Nice Trip.

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I believe we are all actually a science eperiment.
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I believe we are all actually a science eperiment.
Yeah and they're trying to see if good or evil will prevail. Will we flourish and conquer our problems? Or will we destroy ourselves?
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Yeah and they're trying to see if good or evil will prevail. Will we flourish and conquer our problems? Or will we destroy ourselves?
Wrong. You are merely 1 out of 7 billion evolved monkeys along with 20 billion other organisms clinging to a tiny rock hurtling through space with trillions upon trillions of other tiny rocks. You are about as special as a fly on shit.
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i think the universe is all there is, not a part of something bigger.
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I have no clue. But I have to admit what we have is amazing. Or maybe I just think too much when I am working out or riding my bike.

Think about this for a moment.... Somehow humans were born and we were able to fend for ourselves and figure out we had to eat. If you put a two day old baby in the forrest alone and walk away, will he be able to grow into a full adult?

How did humans come about - which came first, the chicken or the egg? How can human life become life if we didn't have a mother to give us birth?

Something doesn't add up.
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There's overwhelming evidence that our universe is just one of many. Science has probed the boundaries of this new hypothesis, and great gains have been made recently. For me to reject the evidence would be very close-minded.
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what if our known universe, made up of all the stars to our furthest reach are just molecules of a spark from something much larger?

dimensions are nothing but a matter of scale.
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Old 10-21-2013, 09:50 AM   #13
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I have no clue. But I have to admit what we have is amazing. Or maybe I just think too much when I am working out or riding my bike.

Think about this for a moment.... Somehow humans were born and we were able to fend for ourselves and figure out we had to eat. If you put a two day old baby in the forrest alone and walk away, will he be able to grow into a full adult?

How did humans come about - which came first, the chicken or the egg? How can human life become life if we didn't have a mother to give us birth?

Something doesn't add up.
Fucking good shit man.... whoa.

Those stating that the universe couldn't possibly be something bigger? HOW?

Have you ever looked at am atom? What does that look like? It looks like a center mass keeping it's bodies in check... until it decays... much like our solar system... much like our universe. Eventually it will die out... all of then energy and then there will be nothing left. No new stars, solar systems, galaxies, etc. All furnaces eventually burn out unless they are refueled. We are hypothetically stuck with a finite (however immense that it is) amount of fuel.



And this isn't something bigger? We could be in dog shit, like a big fucking dogs shit and here we sit thinking that everything is so important... yet in something bigger than us it is a millisecond. THINK ABOUT IT...

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what if our known universe, made up of all the stars to our furthest reach are just molecules of a spark from something much larger?

dimensions are nothing but a matter of scale.
Fucking yes, that's where my head is at. We are shit - shit is HUGE beyond comprehension. We are bacteria... actually smaller.
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As much as I would like to post a picture of grape soda or KFC, I shall refrain.

This has merit, at least in my head.

Are you a believer in a God?
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Those stating that the universe couldn't possibly be something bigger? HOW?
no proof. while it seems to be feasible, 1 universe is also feasible. while there is evidence, there is no proof. perhaps with nex-gen tech upcoming there can be some conclusions made.
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I do believe we are of smthg much larger.
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As much as I would like to post a picture of grape soda or KFC, I shall refrain.

This has merit, at least in my head.

Are you a believer in a God?
i do post away you are mad inside. i have done nothing to you. why would you want to attack me?
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The truth is, nobody knows shit. Not even the smartest people on this damn planet can even begin to explain most of the questions out there.

And the thing is, that will never change...
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You're wrong.

It was revealed to me when I was 16-years-old, by some very good grey double-dome acid, on that trip I saw the truth: Our universe is part of a giant's chair, part of the leg of the chair exactly -- then I came down

After doing some white lighting acid, at the beach when skipping school: It was revealed to me that rocks could talk -- they are on another scale of existence -- millions of years and talking in very slow motion -- then I came down

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I'm a non believer in the Jesus Christ, hocus-pocus shit, but it irks me to think that we serve a greater purpose even being that of a parasite or a unicellular task... and I mean the whole universe as one single cell.

What are your thoughts on this? The wife is gone for two days and the shrooms are just beginning to kick in. Blow my fucking mind.

I mean come on... it has to be bigger than us, and I mean way bigger. Time is relative to those that are personally observing it so basically a 250 year old oak tree would laugh at use being alive for 80 or so and that hummingbird on your porch spends it's two years of life (I have no fucking idea what the lifespan is of a hummingbird is, just using it as an example) enjoying it's like as if it were 80 when it dies.

WTF!???
You are putting yourself at serious risk revealing this - remember what happened to Philip K Dick. BTW aren't you Jewish?

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Scale is everything and the size of the true universe is relative. So is time.

We can not see or even think past our own universe anymore than bacteria in our stomach can see outside of our body.

The possibility that our entire universe exists within an intergalactic particle of dust is just as possible as any other scenario or theory of our existence.
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Wrong. You are merely 1 out of 7 billion evolved monkeys along with 20 billion other organisms clinging to a tiny rock hurtling through space with trillions upon trillions of other tiny rocks. You are about as special as a fly on shit.
Not sure I agree with the phrasing but overall this seems about it.
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show me the end of the universe and ill take one step beyond

its infinite...its impossible that its finite...

not just in space but in size (micro and macro) and in time and in dimensions...zoom in and out infinitely, rewind and fast forward, change format, ect what ever you can think of...

all round infinity until somebody explains why there should be a "beginning" or "end" in the first place, not just because our pea minds need closure or a simple solution...
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there are not proof to affirm anything like that but even if we were, what's the difference?

I love this page btw: http://scaleofuniverse.com/

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Yeah and they're trying to see if good or evil will prevail. Will we flourish and conquer our problems? Or will we destroy ourselves?
Is there actually a "good" and an "evil" or just subjective perceptions? Are there actually "problems" or just personal perceptions?
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When I was a kid I pondered this question. I eventually came to the realization that our universe IS indeed a single molecule, a wood molecule no less, which is located inside the coffee table of an immeasurably huge giant's house in an immesurably huger universe.

No shrooms were involved, imagine that.
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no proof. while it seems to be feasible, 1 universe is also feasible. while there is evidence, there is no proof. perhaps with nex-gen tech upcoming there can be some conclusions made.
99% of theoretical physics lacks definitive proof, what you want? a slide show? If the planet were filled with nothing but people only believing things with proof and no one with a touch of faith in what could be possible we would have never crossed an ocean, developed nuclear energy or sure as hell never would have shot people into space...

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The truth is, nobody knows shit. Not even the smartest people on this damn planet can even begin to explain most of the questions out there.

And the thing is, that will never change...
Incorrect. We are built without limitations, except the ones we create for ourselves.
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99% of theoretical physics lacks definitive proof, what you want? a slide show? If the planet were filled with nothing but people only believing things with proof and no one with a touch of faith in what could be possible we would have never crossed an ocean, developed nuclear energy or sure as hell never would have shot people into space...



Incorrect. We are built without limitations, except the ones we create for ourselves.
settle down. it's my opinion, just like it's the opinion of many people much smarter than you.
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Whether you believe our universe is unique or one of many coexisting realities, there's a scientific model that backs up your views. Cosmologists on both sides debated the issue June 1 here at the "Multiverse: One Universe or Many?" panel at the World Science Festival.

http://www.space.com/21421-universe-...on-theory.html
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author and cosmologist, Paul Davies, offers a variety of arguments that multiverse theories are non-scientific :

For a start, how is the existence of the other universes to be tested? To be sure, all cosmologists accept that there are some regions of the universe that lie beyond the reach of our telescopes, but somewhere on the slippery slope between that and the idea that there are an infinite number of universes, credibility reaches a limit.

As one slips down that slope, more and more must be accepted on faith, and less and less is open to scientific verification.

Extreme multiverse explanations are therefore reminiscent of theological discussions. Indeed, invoking an infinity of unseen universes to explain the unusual features of the one we do see is just as ad hoc as invoking an unseen Creator. The multiverse theory may be dressed up in scientific language, but in essence it requires the same leap of faith.

— Paul Davies, A Brief History of the Multiverse
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Frankly, yes. A slide show would be nice.
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99% of theoretical physics lacks definitive proof,
Science (from Latin scientia, meaning "knowledge") is a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe.


key component: testable.

testable = provable.
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was already thinking about that in school. I think the same right now too.
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Think how far that spore traveled in order to give you the insight you are having ;)


If you get confused listen to the music play


Enjoy the ride

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Professor Jennings explains it best.
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Frankly, yes. A slide show would be nice.
Most definitely!

Pics or GTFO!

Intermission should feature a dancing hotdog and animated popcorn.
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