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  • Fat Panda
    Porn is Dead. Move along.
    • Aug 2006
    • 13296

    #51
    analog porn is dead. time to get with the times people

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    • mikesouth
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      • Jun 2003
      • 6334

      #52
      Isnt kim nielson on the advisory board of asacp?
      http://www.asacp.org/index.php?content=aboutus
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      • opflix
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        • Jul 2002
        • 1428

        #53
        i met Kim in my first couple years in the biz...took me out, treated me to lunch and taught me lot about how to run a successful members website. it is disappointing to see things like this happen so i hope it all works out for the best. cheers.
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        • gracesfall
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          #54
          Originally posted by adultmobile
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          • Why
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            • Mar 2003
            • 7230

            #55
            Originally posted by DWB
            Scumbags and thieves always win awards in this industry.
            quoted for truth

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            • DeanCapture
              Haters & Trolls SUCK!
              • Dec 2002
              • 9275

              #56
              Originally posted by sinclair

              As a follow up I did (finally) receive an email from Kim on Friday apologizing and assuring me that a "payment" was hopefully forthcoming.
              This is good news man......hopefully this gets resolved soon
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              • Nikki_Licks
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                • May 2005
                • 6323

                #57
                Originally posted by mikesouth
                Isnt kim nielson on the advisory board of asacp?
                http://www.asacp.org/index.php?content=aboutus
                Don't forget the secret board they deny having ;)
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                • Jay-Rock
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                  • Mar 2007
                  • 2779

                  #58
                  I just come across this thread is sad to see this. Its only a matter of time before other companies will start losing their footing in this biz.
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                  • Grapesoda
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                    • Jul 2003
                    • 46238

                    #59
                    Originally posted by Jay-Rock
                    I just come across this thread is sad to see this. Its only a matter of time before other companies will start losing their footing in this biz.
                    interesting edit ;)

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                    • slapass
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Nov 2002
                      • 14625

                      #60
                      Wow! Not sure about others but their are some brands that I thought were immune to the goings on in the industry. Sorry to see this as these guys were golden back in the day.

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                      • sinclair
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                        • Aug 2004
                        • 1431

                        #61
                        Wanted to post an update to my situation. Since starting this thread, Kim contacted me and made good on a partial payment. About a third of what is owed, no info as to if/when I can expect the balance due.

                        I have received a few emails from others in a similar situation. Hopefully everyone will get taken care of. I will keep everyone posted in this thread until I am paid in full. I would encourage others to chime in as well.

                        thanks for the support.
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                        • tobephoto
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                          • Jun 2009
                          • 108

                          #62
                          I have kept quite for years...

                          He owes me over 18k.
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                          • DeanCapture
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                            • Dec 2002
                            • 9275

                            #63
                            Originally posted by tobephoto
                            He owes me over 18k.
                            Tobe good luck with this man.

                            Can you shoot me over an email? My email is in my sig.

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                            • MaDalton
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                              • Feb 2004
                              • 39861

                              #64
                              Originally posted by tobephoto
                              He owes me over 18k.
                              merry christmas?

                              that sucks...
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                              • gabe100
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                                • Dec 2002
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                                #65
                                Originally posted by tobephoto
                                He owes me over 18k.
                                Best of luck to you.

                                Perhaps the DOZEN ATK shooters here alone on GFY, not counting the other DOZEN not here, can chime in and mention something to the contrary.

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                                • Jim_Gunn
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                                  • Feb 2003
                                  • 5702

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by gabe100
                                  Best of luck to you.

                                  Perhaps the DOZEN ATK shooters here alone on GFY, not counting the other DOZEN not here, can chime in and mention something to the contrary.
                                  Most of the other producers not posting are probably afraid of not getting paid eventually if they join the chorus. In fairness I should update since my earlier diatribe a couple of months ago and report that I personally got a few partial payments so far. Hoping to collect the rest in 2014.

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                                  • AaronM
                                    GFY Royality ;)
                                    • Oct 2001
                                    • 46923

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by gabe100
                                    Best of luck to you.

                                    Perhaps the DOZEN ATK shooters here alone on GFY, not counting the other DOZEN not here, can chime in and mention something to the contrary.

                                    Since my last update here, I've been paid in full.

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                                    • Rochard
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                                      • Dec 2001
                                      • 75733

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by sinclair
                                      I really hate to take something like this to the boards but I am getting no communication from Kim or anyone at ATKingdom concerning past due invoices. I was getting promises of payments initially that never came in, followed by no communication at all via phone, text, or email. These are beyond the 120 day mark.

                                      These are shoots that were ordered and are confirmed in use in the members area. I've shot for them for close to 10 years and have never been treated this way, there have been late payments along the way but communication was consistent. Recently finding out from others shooting for them it has become an issues as well.

                                      Should Kim or anyone at ATK care to address this I am all ears and have been more than patient. If not I will pursue other courses of action, but shooters be warned.

                                      Sinclair
                                      Your thread title says "ATK not paying some of it's shooters" when the truth is this is a billing dispute with one shooter.

                                      So you started your thread with a lie in it's title.

                                      This pretty much says it all for me right there. A photographer I've never heard of is bashing a company I've done business with on multiple levels for a decade and I've never had a problem with.
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                                      • Sly
                                        Let's do some business!
                                        • Sep 2004
                                        • 31376

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by Rochard
                                        Your thread title says "ATK not paying some of it's shooters" when the truth is this is a billing dispute with one shooter.

                                        So you started your thread with a lie in it's title.

                                        This pretty much says it all for me right there. A photographer I've never heard of is bashing a company I've done business with on multiple levels for a decade and I've never had a problem with.


                                        Good luck to everyone in this thread, especially Rochard.
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                                        • dyna mo
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                                          • Dec 2008
                                          • 68184

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by Rochard
                                          Your thread title says "ATK not paying some of it's shooters" when the truth is this is a billing dispute with one shooter.

                                          So you started your thread with a lie in it's title.

                                          This pretty much says it all for me right there. A photographer I've never heard of is bashing a company I've done business with on multiple levels for a decade and I've never had a problem with.
                                          that's entertainment?


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                                          • MaDalton
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                                            • Feb 2004
                                            • 39861

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by Rochard
                                            Your thread title says "ATK not paying some of it's shooters" when the truth is this is a billing dispute with one shooter.

                                            So you started your thread with a lie in it's title.

                                            This pretty much says it all for me right there. A photographer I've never heard of is bashing a company I've done business with on multiple levels for a decade and I've never had a problem with.
                                            <<sigh>>
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                                            • pornguy
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                                              • Mar 2003
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                                              #72
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                                              • JustDaveXxx
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                                                • Feb 2005
                                                • 4111

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by Sly


                                                Good luck to everyone in this thread, especially Rochard.
                                                Agreed


                                                I don't have a dog in this, but I have a friend who didn't get paid for work done. He chalked it up as a loss and and learning experience. As a result, won't ever do work without payment 1st.


                                                I never say anything when it doesn't concern me, but when a Vet like Jim Gunn chimes in, it gets real really fast.


                                                I won't bash or talk about things I know nothing about, but Im guessing its issues with collections and a state of our business.

                                                I do believe if ATK had the money read ally available, shooters would be paid, but I feel that companies make less and have less.


                                                Sucks! Hope things get resolved.



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                                                • sinclair
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                                                  • Aug 2004
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                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by Rochard
                                                  Your thread title says "ATK not paying some of it's shooters" when the truth is this is a billing dispute with one shooter.

                                                  So you started your thread with a lie in it's title.

                                                  This pretty much says it all for me right there. A photographer I've never heard of is bashing a company I've done business with on multiple levels for a decade and I've never had a problem with.
                                                  Glad you have had positive dealings with them. As did I for ten years prior to my posting. I think I made my reticence on bringing this public apparent.

                                                  I also had it on good authority at the time of posting some shooters were getting paid and some were not, so I think my title was dead on. The fact that others chimed in and even more sent me emails directly further supports my title.

                                                  I'm sorry you've never heard of me I shall try harder to earn your attention. Maybe another ten years shooting and I will win your love daddy?
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                                                  • johnnyloadproductions
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                                                    • Oct 2008
                                                    • 3611

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                    <<sigh>>
                                                    No shit, at least his very nature makes it so Paul isn't just talking to himself.

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                                                    • Jim_Gunn
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                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                      • 5702

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by Rochard
                                                      Your thread title says "ATK not paying some of it's shooters" when the truth is this is a billing dispute with one shooter.

                                                      So you started your thread with a lie in it's title.

                                                      This pretty much says it all for me right there. A photographer I've never heard of is bashing a company I've done business with on multiple levels for a decade and I've never had a problem with.
                                                      Rochard, I like you and all as far as I know you from the shows and such. But you're totally out of line here. Your personal experience as an affiliate or whatever is completely irrelevant. It seems like you didn't even read the thread up to this point. Because if anything the original poster understated the problem as he wrote it. There are at least three producers in this thread alone who posted their own tales of woe and believe me there are more out there still silently seething.

                                                      Based on the feedback I got a couple of months ago after my diatribe here on the board and via phone calls that I received from people that had never previously called me in my life at the time, I think most people rightly believed every single word I said too. I provided my follow up earlier that I have indeed gotten some payments so far, but the issues are ongoing for me and others even at this point as we are about to cross into a new year.

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                                                      • sinclair
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                                                        • Aug 2004
                                                        • 1431

                                                        #77
                                                        Wanted to update this thread as I mentioned I would keep everyone informed.

                                                        As of last week, my remaining balance has been paid in full. Again I would like to say how difficult it was to bring this to the boards after a 10+ year relationship, but in my case it appears to have helped.

                                                        I am still getting emails and phone calls that others are still dealing with this and I wish them well, hopefully this post and the social media blasts will help them as well.
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                                                        • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
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                                                          • Jul 2004
                                                          • 38323

                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by sinclair

                                                          Wanted to update this thread as I mentioned I would keep everyone informed.

                                                          As of last week, my remaining balance has been paid in full. Again I would like to say how difficult it was to bring this to the boards after a 10+ year relationship, but in my case it appears to have helped.

                                                          I am still getting emails and phone calls that others are still dealing with this and I wish them well, hopefully this post and the social media blasts will help them as well.
                                                          Good to hear that your issue was finally resolved.





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                                                          • Jim_Gunn
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                                                            • Feb 2003
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                                                            #79
                                                            I was pleasantly surprised at how many respected industry players pulled me aside at Internext last week to ask me about this debacle. Made me feel good about my reputation that even people who hardly know me but know the other party well seemed to believe every word I had written too. I wouldn't be surprised if the ramifications of this are going to last well beyond settling up.

                                                            Anyway, in fairness I should also update- I've been getting smallish payments every week or two for the last four months. I'm still owed nearly $8500 as of today though. Just waiting it out until it all gets paid off.
                                                            Last edited by Jim_Gunn; 01-23-2014, 01:07 PM.

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                                                            • Gringo1
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                                                              • Mar 2013
                                                              • 41

                                                              #80
                                                              ATK owes me several thousand dollars and I've been wating over 4 months-- Very bad communication-- Hope I get paid some day
                                                              Last edited by Gringo1; 02-03-2014, 11:11 AM.

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                                                              • JustDaveXxx
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                                                                • Feb 2005
                                                                • 4111

                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by Jim_Gunn
                                                                I was pleasantly surprised at how many respected industry players pulled me aside at Internext last week to ask me about this debacle. Made me feel good about my reputation that even people who hardly know me but know the other party well seemed to believe every word I had written too. I wouldn't be surprised if the ramifications of this are going to last well beyond settling up.

                                                                Anyway, in fairness I should also update- I've been getting smallish payments every week or two for the last four months. I'm still owed nearly $8500 as of today though. Just waiting it out until it all gets paid off.
                                                                I heard through the Grape vine; That multiple shooters have been getting paid as a result of this thread.


                                                                When stand up producers say something, seems that shit gets done.


                                                                Have to give Kudos to ATK for making good. Small payments and open communications is better than nothing.



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                                                                • NEW XTC
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                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                  Your thread title says "ATK not paying some of it's shooters" when the truth is this is a billing dispute with one shooter.

                                                                  So you started your thread with a lie in it's title.

                                                                  This pretty much says it all for me right there. A photographer I've never heard of is bashing a company I've done business with on multiple levels for a decade and I've never had a problem with.
                                                                  a lie.

                                                                  every shooter I know says the same thing about ATK

                                                                  bashing...jesus
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                                                                  • Clark
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                                                                    • Feb 2003
                                                                    • 334

                                                                    #83
                                                                    bump
                                                                    Kim owes me a few grand + 2 shooters not mentioned in this thread that I am aware of are still owed.
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                                                                    • sinclair
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                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                      • 1431

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by JustDaveXxx
                                                                      I heard through the Grape vine; That multiple shooters have been getting paid as a result of this thread.
                                                                      You're welcome.

                                                                      Good luck to those still waiting...and waiting.
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                                                                      • Clark
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                                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                                        • 334

                                                                        #85
                                                                        strange reaction by Kim....calls a friend to complain that I bumped this thread but doesn't email/call me to say there's a payment on the way. not that i'd believe it at this point...but still.
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                                                                        • tobephoto
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                                                                          • Jun 2009
                                                                          • 108

                                                                          #86
                                                                          Kims Payments and Communication have stopped

                                                                          Kim has stopped payments and response to emails for the last two months.
                                                                          Other photogs have same problem?
                                                                          My attorney is ready at any time to proceed, but I will try to be more patient.
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                                                                          • Pseudonymous
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                                                                            • Apr 2006
                                                                            • 2661

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Sounds like quite the business they got going on over there.
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                                                                            • DeanCapture
                                                                              Haters & Trolls SUCK!
                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                              • 9275

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by tobephoto
                                                                              Kim has stopped payments and response to emails for the last two months.
                                                                              Other photogs have same problem?
                                                                              My attorney is ready at any time to proceed, but I will try to be more patient.
                                                                              Good luck buddy. So sad to hear that you're still wrangling with this matter
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                                                                              • Jim_Gunn
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                                                                                • Feb 2003
                                                                                • 5702

                                                                                #89
                                                                                You might be waiting a while longer to get paid unfortunately. Kim's been going hog wild spending our money on business acquisitions, travel and getting laid instead of paying his bills. I heard direct from the agents and models that he's overpaying $2400 per shoot to fuck porn chicks in Vegas, LA and even flying them out to exotic Hawaii so he can get pussy on other peoples' dime. And when he really fancies the girl he's needlessly booking them multiple times to the tune of up to $12k apiece just to keep them around for his amusement.

                                                                                I've been getting paid off in dribs and drabs every couple of months for over a year now. My now still almost $4,000 balance is overdue by 14 months at this point. We're just not a priority to Kim and he clearly doesn't care about his reputation or abhorrent business practices. At this rate I'll be lucky see the rest of what I'm owed by 2015.

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                                                                                • NaughtyRob
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                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Thats fucked up. I'm glad I never started shooting for him.
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                                                                                  • sinclair
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                                                                                    • Aug 2004
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                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Hoping Tobe, Jim and any others get paid there due. Since starting this thread I have been paid off in full. However, I am hearing (from third parties) that he continues to talk smack on me for starting this thread so expect your reputations to be attacked for expecting to be paid.
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                                                                                    • ezgirl
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                                                                                      • Jun 2005
                                                                                      • 278

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Here is a bump for this thread, producer still not getting paid...

                                                                                      So, some of you got paid, others didn't. There is more to this story which lingers on to this day...
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                                                                                      • Adnium_Ivana
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                                                                                        #93
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                                                                                        • Paul Markham
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                                                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                                                          • 52942

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          He would never pay up front, so we never shot for him. Credit is earned. Not given to anyone who asks.

                                                                                          Seriously these guys were such bad payers and paid such low prices. I could never figure out why people shot for them and gave them credit. Location, equipment, model, makeup, extras are all paid on the day or before the shoot.

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                                                                                          • NatalieK
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                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Originally posted by Paul Markham
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                                                                                            • romeo22
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                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Everyone does.its sooner or later

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                                                                                              • mikesouth
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                                                                                                • Jun 2003
                                                                                                • 6334

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                I got a request to do yet another story on him because he isnt paying...come on guys at what point do yall wake up and realize that you aint special...he isnt going to pay you just like he hasnt paid how many others over the years...look at the date of the OP.....if you wanna shoot for ATK....do it COD I know I would.
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                                                                                                • ReggieDurango
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                                                                                                  • Nov 2007
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                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  might as well bump this ole classic

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