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Nikki_Licks 10-13-2013 09:27 AM

Hope things work out for the best!

DBS.US 10-13-2013 10:12 AM

Don't you guys think it's start knocking on some doors?

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 10-13-2013 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US (Post 19832990)

Don't you guys think it's start knocking on some doors?



:stoned

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ezgirl 10-13-2013 09:48 PM

Atk not paying shooters
 
Bump to this, looking forward to more shooter's stories.

mikesouth 10-14-2013 12:14 AM

atk wouldnt be his first bankrupt company details coming monday am on mikesouth.com

adultmobile 10-14-2013 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19833510)
atk wouldnt be his first bankrupt company details coming monday am on mikesouth.com

Mike South will write about this, ATK is fucked :)

Matyko 10-14-2013 04:36 AM

shocking info in this thread...:Oh crap:helpme

sinclair 10-14-2013 08:12 AM

I did not start this post on a whim, I thought long and hard about bringing this to the boards. Even spoke at length with another established shooter that was very helpful at took time to provide some wise counsel. I knew full well making it public could hurt my chances of ever seeing money owed. I also knew there was a chance it could open up a huge can of worms for ATK, not my intention, but I was left with few options.

As a follow up I did (finally) receive an email from Kim on Friday apologizing and assuring me that a "payment" was hopefully forthcoming. I've heard this before and want to give him the benefit of the doubt, but I, and apparently others, have been down this road before.

Was busy over the weekend and am just getting a chance to catch up on this thread and I have to say it is a lot to digest. I too have always enjoyed good relations with Kim and enjoyed working for them over the past decade, but of late, there is a marked change in the way they do business. I am hoping Kim can turns things around, I never like to see anyone do bad in business.

I appreciate the support form those that have chimed in and thanks to BMB and Jim for sharing. Two shooters who I have always respected in this industry. I, like Jim, know of others and am hooping we all get what is owed to us.

Sinclair

Barefootsies 10-14-2013 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19833578)
Mike South will write about this, ATK is fucked :)

:Oh crap

Barefootsies 10-14-2013 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 19832487)
I heard that Kim is in Europe as we speak with as many as ten employees spending many thousands of thousands of dollars of producer's money doing the convention circuit in style.


Fat Panda 10-14-2013 08:53 AM

analog porn is dead. time to get with the times people

mikesouth 10-14-2013 09:12 AM

Isnt kim nielson on the advisory board of asacp?
http://www.asacp.org/index.php?content=aboutus

opflix 10-14-2013 10:06 AM

i met Kim in my first couple years in the biz...took me out, treated me to lunch and taught me lot about how to run a successful members website. it is disappointing to see things like this happen so i hope it all works out for the best. cheers.

gracesfall 10-14-2013 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19832496)

Lol...that made me spit coolatta. It's a good thing I turned away from the laptop!

Why 10-14-2013 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19832472)
Scumbags and thieves always win awards in this industry.

quoted for truth

DeanCapture 10-16-2013 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sinclair (Post 19833792)

As a follow up I did (finally) receive an email from Kim on Friday apologizing and assuring me that a "payment" was hopefully forthcoming.

This is good news man......hopefully this gets resolved soon :thumbsup

Nikki_Licks 10-16-2013 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19833852)
Isnt kim nielson on the advisory board of asacp?
http://www.asacp.org/index.php?content=aboutus

Don't forget the secret board they deny having ;)

Jay-Rock 10-17-2013 09:02 AM

I just come across this thread is sad to see this. Its only a matter of time before other companies will start losing their footing in this biz.

Grapesoda 10-17-2013 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay-Rock (Post 19838084)
I just come across this thread is sad to see this. Its only a matter of time before other companies will start losing their footing in this biz.

interesting edit ;)

slapass 10-17-2013 10:33 AM

Wow! Not sure about others but their are some brands that I thought were immune to the goings on in the industry. Sorry to see this as these guys were golden back in the day.

sinclair 10-17-2013 01:11 PM

Wanted to post an update to my situation. Since starting this thread, Kim contacted me and made good on a partial payment. About a third of what is owed, no info as to if/when I can expect the balance due.

I have received a few emails from others in a similar situation. Hopefully everyone will get taken care of. I will keep everyone posted in this thread until I am paid in full. I would encourage others to chime in as well.

thanks for the support.

tobephoto 12-25-2013 05:37 PM

I have kept quite for years...
 
He owes me over 18k.

DeanCapture 12-25-2013 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tobephoto (Post 19922765)
He owes me over 18k.

Tobe good luck with this man.

Can you shoot me over an email? My email is in my sig.

Thanks & Happy Holidays!!!

MaDalton 12-25-2013 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tobephoto (Post 19922765)
He owes me over 18k.

merry christmas?

that sucks...

gabe100 12-25-2013 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tobephoto (Post 19922765)
He owes me over 18k.

Best of luck to you.

Perhaps the DOZEN ATK shooters here alone on GFY, not counting the other DOZEN not here, can chime in and mention something to the contrary.

Jim_Gunn 12-26-2013 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by gabe100 (Post 19922852)
Best of luck to you.

Perhaps the DOZEN ATK shooters here alone on GFY, not counting the other DOZEN not here, can chime in and mention something to the contrary.

Most of the other producers not posting are probably afraid of not getting paid eventually if they join the chorus. In fairness I should update since my earlier diatribe a couple of months ago and report that I personally got a few partial payments so far. Hoping to collect the rest in 2014.

AaronM 12-26-2013 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by gabe100 (Post 19922852)
Best of luck to you.

Perhaps the DOZEN ATK shooters here alone on GFY, not counting the other DOZEN not here, can chime in and mention something to the contrary.


Since my last update here, I've been paid in full.

Rochard 12-26-2013 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by sinclair (Post 19831342)
I really hate to take something like this to the boards but I am getting no communication from Kim or anyone at ATKingdom concerning past due invoices. I was getting promises of payments initially that never came in, followed by no communication at all via phone, text, or email. These are beyond the 120 day mark.

These are shoots that were ordered and are confirmed in use in the members area. I've shot for them for close to 10 years and have never been treated this way, there have been late payments along the way but communication was consistent. Recently finding out from others shooting for them it has become an issues as well.

Should Kim or anyone at ATK care to address this I am all ears and have been more than patient. If not I will pursue other courses of action, but shooters be warned.

Sinclair

Your thread title says "ATK not paying some of it's shooters" when the truth is this is a billing dispute with one shooter.

So you started your thread with a lie in it's title.

This pretty much says it all for me right there. A photographer I've never heard of is bashing a company I've done business with on multiple levels for a decade and I've never had a problem with.

Sly 12-26-2013 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19923241)
Your thread title says "ATK not paying some of it's shooters" when the truth is this is a billing dispute with one shooter.

So you started your thread with a lie in it's title.

This pretty much says it all for me right there. A photographer I've never heard of is bashing a company I've done business with on multiple levels for a decade and I've never had a problem with.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Good luck to everyone in this thread, especially Rochard.

dyna mo 12-26-2013 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19923241)
Your thread title says "ATK not paying some of it's shooters" when the truth is this is a billing dispute with one shooter.

So you started your thread with a lie in it's title.

This pretty much says it all for me right there. A photographer I've never heard of is bashing a company I've done business with on multiple levels for a decade and I've never had a problem with.

that's entertainment?


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

MaDalton 12-26-2013 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19923241)
Your thread title says "ATK not paying some of it's shooters" when the truth is this is a billing dispute with one shooter.

So you started your thread with a lie in it's title.

This pretty much says it all for me right there. A photographer I've never heard of is bashing a company I've done business with on multiple levels for a decade and I've never had a problem with.

<<sigh>>

pornguy 12-26-2013 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 19831916)
No itsa not dead Im making money. You just gotta have a brain and adapt

Dont even bother. Its so much more entertaining to bitch.

JustDaveXxx 12-26-2013 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 19923244)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Good luck to everyone in this thread, especially Rochard.

Agreed:thumbsup


I don't have a dog in this, but I have a friend who didn't get paid for work done. He chalked it up as a loss and and learning experience. As a result, won't ever do work without payment 1st.


I never say anything when it doesn't concern me, but when a Vet like Jim Gunn chimes in, it gets real really fast.


I won't bash or talk about things I know nothing about, but Im guessing its issues with collections and a state of our business.

I do believe if ATK had the money read ally available, shooters would be paid, but I feel that companies make less and have less.


Sucks! Hope things get resolved.



Just Dave

sinclair 12-26-2013 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19923241)
Your thread title says "ATK not paying some of it's shooters" when the truth is this is a billing dispute with one shooter.

So you started your thread with a lie in it's title.

This pretty much says it all for me right there. A photographer I've never heard of is bashing a company I've done business with on multiple levels for a decade and I've never had a problem with.

Glad you have had positive dealings with them. As did I for ten years prior to my posting. I think I made my reticence on bringing this public apparent.

I also had it on good authority at the time of posting some shooters were getting paid and some were not, so I think my title was dead on. The fact that others chimed in and even more sent me emails directly further supports my title.

I'm sorry you've never heard of me I shall try harder to earn your attention. Maybe another ten years shooting and I will win your love daddy?

johnnyloadproductions 12-26-2013 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 19923264)
<<sigh>>

No shit, at least his very nature makes it so Paul isn't just talking to himself. :)

Jim_Gunn 12-27-2013 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19923241)
Your thread title says "ATK not paying some of it's shooters" when the truth is this is a billing dispute with one shooter.

So you started your thread with a lie in it's title.

This pretty much says it all for me right there. A photographer I've never heard of is bashing a company I've done business with on multiple levels for a decade and I've never had a problem with.

Rochard, I like you and all as far as I know you from the shows and such. But you're totally out of line here. Your personal experience as an affiliate or whatever is completely irrelevant. It seems like you didn't even read the thread up to this point. Because if anything the original poster understated the problem as he wrote it. There are at least three producers in this thread alone who posted their own tales of woe and believe me there are more out there still silently seething.

Based on the feedback I got a couple of months ago after my diatribe here on the board and via phone calls that I received from people that had never previously called me in my life at the time, I think most people rightly believed every single word I said too. I provided my follow up earlier that I have indeed gotten some payments so far, but the issues are ongoing for me and others even at this point as we are about to cross into a new year.

sinclair 01-23-2014 12:47 PM

Wanted to update this thread as I mentioned I would keep everyone informed.

As of last week, my remaining balance has been paid in full. Again I would like to say how difficult it was to bring this to the boards after a 10+ year relationship, but in my case it appears to have helped.

I am still getting emails and phone calls that others are still dealing with this and I wish them well, hopefully this post and the social media blasts will help them as well.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 01-23-2014 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sinclair (Post 19955266)

Wanted to update this thread as I mentioned I would keep everyone informed.

As of last week, my remaining balance has been paid in full. Again I would like to say how difficult it was to bring this to the boards after a 10+ year relationship, but in my case it appears to have helped.

I am still getting emails and phone calls that others are still dealing with this and I wish them well, hopefully this post and the social media blasts will help them as well.

Good to hear that your issue was finally resolved. :thumbsup

http://i.tbs.com/v5cache/TBS/Images/...0720080436.jpg

:stoned

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Jim_Gunn 01-23-2014 03:05 PM

I was pleasantly surprised at how many respected industry players pulled me aside at Internext last week to ask me about this debacle. Made me feel good about my reputation that even people who hardly know me but know the other party well seemed to believe every word I had written too. I wouldn't be surprised if the ramifications of this are going to last well beyond settling up.

Anyway, in fairness I should also update- I've been getting smallish payments every week or two for the last four months. I'm still owed nearly $8500 as of today though. Just waiting it out until it all gets paid off.

Gringo1 02-03-2014 01:06 PM

ATK owes me several thousand dollars and I've been wating over 4 months-- Very bad communication-- Hope I get paid some day


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