analog porn is dead. time to get with the times people

Isnt kim nielson on the advisory board of asacp?
http://www.asacp.org/index.php?content=aboutus

i met Kim in my first couple years in the biz...took me out, treated me to lunch and taught me lot about how to run a successful members website. it is disappointing to see things like this happen so i hope it all works out for the best. cheers.

Lol...that made me spit coolatta. It's a good thing I turned away from the laptop!

quoted for truth

This is good news man......hopefully this gets resolved soon :thumbsup

Don't forget the secret board they deny having ;)

I just come across this thread is sad to see this. Its only a matter of time before other companies will start losing their footing in this biz.

interesting edit ;)

Wow! Not sure about others but their are some brands that I thought were immune to the goings on in the industry. Sorry to see this as these guys were golden back in the day.

Wanted to post an update to my situation. Since starting this thread, Kim contacted me and made good on a partial payment. About a third of what is owed, no info as to if/when I can expect the balance due.

I have received a few emails from others in a similar situation. Hopefully everyone will get taken care of. I will keep everyone posted in this thread until I am paid in full. I would encourage others to chime in as well.

thanks for the support.

I have kept quite for years...
 

He owes me over 18k.

Tobe good luck with this man.

Can you shoot me over an email? My email is in my sig.

Thanks & Happy Holidays!!!

merry christmas?

that sucks...

Best of luck to you.

Perhaps the DOZEN ATK shooters here alone on GFY, not counting the other DOZEN not here, can chime in and mention something to the contrary.

Most of the other producers not posting are probably afraid of not getting paid eventually if they join the chorus. In fairness I should update since my earlier diatribe a couple of months ago and report that I personally got a few partial payments so far. Hoping to collect the rest in 2014.

Since my last update here, I've been paid in full.

Your thread title says "ATK not paying some of it's shooters" when the truth is this is a billing dispute with one shooter.

So you started your thread with a lie in it's title.

This pretty much says it all for me right there. A photographer I've never heard of is bashing a company I've done business with on multiple levels for a decade and I've never had a problem with.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Good luck to everyone in this thread, especially Rochard.

that's entertainment?


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

<<sigh>>

Dont even bother. Its so much more entertaining to bitch.

Agreed:thumbsup


I don't have a dog in this, but I have a friend who didn't get paid for work done. He chalked it up as a loss and and learning experience. As a result, won't ever do work without payment 1st.


I never say anything when it doesn't concern me, but when a Vet like Jim Gunn chimes in, it gets real really fast.


I won't bash or talk about things I know nothing about, but Im guessing its issues with collections and a state of our business.

I do believe if ATK had the money read ally available, shooters would be paid, but I feel that companies make less and have less.


Sucks! Hope things get resolved.



Just Dave

Glad you have had positive dealings with them. As did I for ten years prior to my posting. I think I made my reticence on bringing this public apparent.

I also had it on good authority at the time of posting some shooters were getting paid and some were not, so I think my title was dead on. The fact that others chimed in and even more sent me emails directly further supports my title.

I'm sorry you've never heard of me I shall try harder to earn your attention. Maybe another ten years shooting and I will win your love daddy?

No shit, at least his very nature makes it so Paul isn't just talking to himself. :)

Rochard, I like you and all as far as I know you from the shows and such. But you're totally out of line here. Your personal experience as an affiliate or whatever is completely irrelevant. It seems like you didn't even read the thread up to this point. Because if anything the original poster understated the problem as he wrote it. There are at least three producers in this thread alone who posted their own tales of woe and believe me there are more out there still silently seething.

Based on the feedback I got a couple of months ago after my diatribe here on the board and via phone calls that I received from people that had never previously called me in my life at the time, I think most people rightly believed every single word I said too. I provided my follow up earlier that I have indeed gotten some payments so far, but the issues are ongoing for me and others even at this point as we are about to cross into a new year.

Wanted to update this thread as I mentioned I would keep everyone informed.

As of last week, my remaining balance has been paid in full. Again I would like to say how difficult it was to bring this to the boards after a 10+ year relationship, but in my case it appears to have helped.

I am still getting emails and phone calls that others are still dealing with this and I wish them well, hopefully this post and the social media blasts will help them as well.

Good to hear that your issue was finally resolved. :thumbsup

http://i.tbs.com/v5cache/TBS/Images/...0720080436.jpg

:stoned

ADG

I was pleasantly surprised at how many respected industry players pulled me aside at Internext last week to ask me about this debacle. Made me feel good about my reputation that even people who hardly know me but know the other party well seemed to believe every word I had written too. I wouldn't be surprised if the ramifications of this are going to last well beyond settling up.

Anyway, in fairness I should also update- I've been getting smallish payments every week or two for the last four months. I'm still owed nearly $8500 as of today though. Just waiting it out until it all gets paid off.

ATK owes me several thousand dollars and I've been wating over 4 months-- Very bad communication-- Hope I get paid some day

I heard through the Grape vine; That multiple shooters have been getting paid as a result of this thread.


When stand up producers say something, seems that shit gets done.


Have to give Kudos to ATK for making good. Small payments and open communications is better than nothing.



Just Dave

a lie. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

every shooter I know says the same thing about ATK

bashing...jesus

bump
Kim owes me a few grand + 2 shooters not mentioned in this thread that I am aware of are still owed.

You're welcome.

Good luck to those still waiting...and waiting.

strange reaction by Kim....calls a friend to complain that I bumped this thread but doesn't email/call me to say there's a payment on the way. not that i'd believe it at this point...but still.

Kims Payments and Communication have stopped
 

Kim has stopped payments and response to emails for the last two months.
Other photogs have same problem?
My attorney is ready at any time to proceed, but I will try to be more patient.

Sounds like quite the business they got going on over there.

Good luck buddy. So sad to hear that you're still wrangling with this matter :Oh crap

You might be waiting a while longer to get paid unfortunately. Kim's been going hog wild spending our money on business acquisitions, travel and getting laid instead of paying his bills. I heard direct from the agents and models that he's overpaying $2400 per shoot to fuck porn chicks in Vegas, LA and even flying them out to exotic Hawaii so he can get pussy on other peoples' dime. And when he really fancies the girl he's needlessly booking them multiple times to the tune of up to $12k apiece just to keep them around for his amusement.

I've been getting paid off in dribs and drabs every couple of months for over a year now. My now still almost $4,000 balance is overdue by 14 months at this point. We're just not a priority to Kim and he clearly doesn't care about his reputation or abhorrent business practices. At this rate I'll be lucky see the rest of what I'm owed by 2015.

Thats fucked up. I'm glad I never started shooting for him.

Hoping Tobe, Jim and any others get paid there due. Since starting this thread I have been paid off in full. However, I am hearing (from third parties) that he continues to talk smack on me for starting this thread so expect your reputations to be attacked for expecting to be paid.

Here is a bump for this thread, producer still not getting paid...
 

So, some of you got paid, others didn't. There is more to this story which lingers on to this day...

God I loved The Craft as an angsty preteen. Never liked Nancy though - knew girls like her in HS

He would never pay up front, so we never shot for him. Credit is earned. Not given to anyone who asks.

Seriously these guys were such bad payers and paid such low prices. I could never figure out why people shot for them and gave them credit. Location, equipment, model, makeup, extras are all paid on the day or before the shoot.

To shoot content that's worth at least twice as much if sold via a content store. And the money keeps coming day in day out for years.

reminds me, I must update our ac content store :thumbsup

Everyone does.its sooner or later

I got a request to do yet another story on him because he isnt paying...come on guys at what point do yall wake up and realize that you aint special...he isnt going to pay you just like he hasnt paid how many others over the years...look at the date of the OP.....if you wanna shoot for ATK....do it COD I know I would.

might as well bump this ole classic