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matty · 03-01-2003, 12:34 PM

Anyone know?

I was looking at freeezinebucks.com but i think there are better ones... Let me know of a good one please.

Thanks
matty

psyko514 · 03-01-2003, 12:35 PM

weg is better. i'm converting at 1:6 today.

and march 5th, they'll be paying $2 for all emails.

matty · 03-01-2003, 12:40 PM

no shit? with what kinda traffic? niche?

psyko514 · 03-01-2003, 12:41 PM

targeted teen and cam traffic.

Theo · 03-01-2003, 12:42 PM

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Originally posted by psyko514
weg is better. i'm converting at 1:6 today.

and march 5th, they'll be paying $2 for all emails.

really? i missed this, good to hear

matty · 03-01-2003, 12:43 PM

yeah i think i may build a page for targeted niche tgp traffic on march 5th

think it would convert w/ tgp traffic?

KRL · 03-01-2003, 12:46 PM

FM's CECash CEMAgs converts like crazy. They've got solid company history, great payouts, great content for surfers.

Info here: http://www.fantasymanmoney.com/cemags.html

Pays $1.50 per subscriber and $15 if they upgrade.

the real magoo · 03-01-2003, 01:05 PM

FreePassBucks
$1 Per Confirmed Email

Adultplex
$3,00 Per Email

QualityMpegs · 03-01-2003, 01:09 PM

FreeEzineBucks has always done the best for me. Like I said, there are some realll bad days, but it converts at around 1:23 overall.

herbs · 03-01-2003, 01:14 PM

I convert around 1:4 withCEMags They are by far the best with targeted traffic

BossHawg · 03-01-2003, 02:02 PM

Why not just send some traffic to all of them and pick the one that works best for you

Different programs work best for each webmaster...

Just know how each one works and what they do and dont pay on before sending your traffic...

Things to know about each program
If you use an FPA and surfer signs up to 3 different sites, do you get credit for 3 or 1...FEB pays for all 3..

Do they filter off any foreign traffic? FEB does NOT. We pay on all countries as LONG as the foreign stuff is NOT the majority of your traffic (aka if your traffic is general tgp, se, link list, etc you will have no problems)

Do they use a per active model? such that the user has to stay active at the free site for X amount of days for you to get paid? FEB does not. Once they confirm, you get PAID regardless if the surfer cancels 30 minutes later. NO DEDUCTIONS ever.

Give us a try at FreeEzineBucks.com or FreeTicketCash.com

gleem · 03-01-2003, 02:10 PM

I have tried them all, and BossHawgs 2 programs per click does the best at the end of the month after the others deduct sales, with insiteadults free reality sites running a close 2nd.

Hey BossHawg, how about getting some of those reality sites over at the FEB/FAT programs?
keep up the good work

BossHawg · 03-01-2003, 02:18 PM

gleem...Thanks for the compliments, and Insite got to the reality idea first...Dont want to ride those coattails haha...Got some more different concept sites (2 new concepts, 10 sites per concept) coming very soon that I am adding to FreeTicketCash, if you want to get a sneak peek holla at me on ICQ at 197505728

gleem · 03-01-2003, 03:21 PM

Nothing wrong with riding coat tails a bit, kinda what this industry is all about, as long as there are some improvements and differences.

If no one improved on ideas, there would only be 1 AVS ( who was the first again "Verified" or something?), 1 reality site.. etc..

fantasyman · 03-01-2003, 03:46 PM

Bosshawg, I agree with you, Webmasters should try each program to see which one converts best for them. CEMags is not just an email collection program. It is an Email, Paysite, Dialer hybrid affiliate program. Yes, CEMag deducts cancellations, and yes, CEmag routes certain foreign traffic to dialers or allows the Webmaster to re-route the traffic to any URL to optimize his income.

CEMags pays $1.50 vs a $1.00 in your programs. This means CEMag can have 33% less and the Webmaster still earns the same. The good news is our cancellations run only about 10% which means we pay a lot more, even with the deductions, just do the math. We also pay 50% of all dialer revenue.

The most important factor is that CEMag was redesigned last month and it is converting $15 upsells like there is no tomorrow. So any Webmaster that has not tried our program in the last month has no idea how much they can earn. I don't believe your program offers and upsell, does it?

If Webmasters contact [email protected] he will happily help you make a ton of money with CEMags. Our Webmaster board has the quickest response time around. Check it out, we will blow your mind on how much attention we pay to each Webmaster. Rowdy never sleeps

We also have some of the biggest players sending us traffic, Lensman uses CEmag on his exits, CEN, Topbucks, Stiffy Cash, Cashquest, FlyntDigital, even JoinForFree just to name a few.

KRL and Herbs I'm glad to hear you are doing so well. Have your upsells increased since our redesign? Herbs your conversion of 1:4 is awesome!!

Try the newly redesigned CEMags and make BigTimeGreen!!

BossHawg · 03-01-2003, 05:38 PM

As I said, some make more with us, others make more with other programs..That is the nature of any area of this business otherwise there would only be one program that everybody made the most money with..

Quick question..With CEMags If you use an FPA and surfer signs up to 3 different sites, do you get credit for 3 or 1??

Yep your $1.50 vs our $1...but take away the fact you dont pay on some countries, the deductions, and not paying for multiple joins by one email (I think) and it all about evens out IMO..The upsells may be gravy but they are per ACTIVE member I believe so those dont add much...

Heck I could pay $2 an email if I only took aol,hotmail,msn,yahoo,and the other big email providers and only us, uk speacking traffic and did deductions. Not saying you do, my point is I could pay more and just add in all these other clauses but in the end it all about evens out. An email is only worth so much

I have nothing to hide...It is known our program doesnt have any upsell type system....but watch out for some new shit in FEB v2..

No need to bring about who sends you traffic to compare dick sizes..Almost all the ones you mentioned also send us traffic. That is irrelevant to the discussion here though!

In closing...the webmaster should try us both and the other 4free programs out there (as they all have something a bit different about them) and use the one that makes you the most money!

fantasyman · 03-01-2003, 07:01 PM

Speaking of hotmail, AOL, Yahoo and other big ISP's.

CEMag has a special reverse DNS arrangement with AOL, Yahoo, MSN and Hotmail whereby all of emails are accepted into their system and not in their bulk mail. These companies have our 'white paper' and accept all of our emails. Does FEB have relations like that or are you blocked by some and in bulk folders with others? If you're blocked by one of these companies it doesn't matter how much you pay, the Webmaster will lose a lot.

You believe our upsells don't add much. Even though they are per active, they add a ton. So what you believe is wrong. They add so much that your program can't compare.

Funny how you accuse me of comparing dick sizes, if the condom fits, put it on

fantasyman · 03-06-2003, 01:59 PM

Notice how this thread died, I think I know why.

Our two largest competitors are blocked on AOL.

One of them is blocked also on Yahoo and Lycos.

CEMags has a reverse dns deal with AOL and our email gets through to all major ISP's.

This makes a big difference.

Brujah · 03-06-2003, 02:05 PM

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Originally posted by BossHawg
In closing...the webmaster should try us both and the other 4free programs out there (as they all have something a bit different about them) and use the one that makes you the most money!

I think he said all that needed to be said in his closing paragraph.

Try them all, stick with the one you make the most money with. Can it get any simpler than that ?

BossHawg · 03-06-2003, 02:11 PM

FM...Dont worry about us...Things are going well and we are in works with all major providers. I dont need to explain how our operations work but the only thing affected at AOL at the moment is our MAIL servers we mail our promo ads on. We use 5 different confirmation mail servers, and they are NOT blocked.

Why you want to keep riding me??...do you like me that much you not only make a duplicate program of mine but also feel the need to put me down at any chance...watch out in 2 weeks and keep playing follow the leader...

bigdog · 03-06-2003, 02:25 PM

FM why are you mails accepted at aol are you participating in that bonded sender program by the people that provide your mail servers?

fantasyman · 03-06-2003, 02:46 PM

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Originally posted by BossHawg
FM...Dont worry about us...Things are going well and we are in works with all major providers. I dont need to explain how our operations work but the only thing affected at AOL at the moment is our MAIL servers we mail our promo ads on. We use 5 different confirmation mail servers, and they are NOT blocked.

Why you want to keep riding me??...do you like me that much you not only make a duplicate program of mine but also feel the need to put me down at any chance...watch out in 2 weeks and keep playing follow the leader...

Bosshawg we're not worrying about you at all. Never mentioned your name. You seem to have taken this personally and are quite defensive. If the shoe fits, wear it!

We're not playing follow the leader. That's just a bunch of sour grapes you keep spittin' out to anyone who will listen. CEMags is nothing like your program. We have three different types of payouts and have had these features from the beginning, your program has one payout. Our email payout is 50% higher than yours. So how is CEMag a duplicate of your single pay program? Prior to CEMag we had RiskyMail and Teen-Mail for two years before that with two payout scenarios. This was before you ever had an email program. You seem to be riding me.

...and thanx, I'll watch what you do in two weeks - are you adding a few more income opportunities for your Webmasters? Wouldn't that be following us?

fantasyman · 03-06-2003, 02:48 PM

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Originally posted by bigdog
FM why are you mails accepted at aol are you participating in that bonded sender program by the people that provide your mail servers?

We have a white paper agreement with them with a reverse dns lookup. We are an authorized double opt in mail and AOL acknowledges that.

bigdog · 03-06-2003, 03:09 PM

fm intresting i didn't know you could do that with aol

fantasyman · 03-06-2003, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigdog
fm intresting i didn't know you could do that with aol

It wasn't cheap and it wasn't easy

bigdog · 03-06-2003, 05:52 PM

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Originally posted by fantasyman

It wasn't cheap and it wasn't easy

cool seems you guys go the extra step to make your affilates more money. I got to start pushing some traffic to the mags.FM you guys got plans for a webcam mag?

49thParallel · 03-06-2003, 07:08 PM

BossHawg is class all the way. He's always returned emails personally, and always tells it like it is. Keep up the good work!

And, at the end of the day, it is a matter of who pays you the most money. Each sponsor has a different way of counting clicks, so there is no comparison.

For an experiment over the last couple of days, I put up a pop-up for FEB. It showed about 1500 click thrus each day. Then I changed out the links to WEG for a day. Page still looked the same. The links still went to the same niches. And my counters showed an equivelent number of pop-up views. But the clicks that were showing up in the WEG stats were only a fraction. (about 1/5). So of course WEG conversions looked better. But, I made more money with FEB. (It was close)

CEMags...never tried them. I always considered their dialers as being downright dirty, so I won't touch them.

And thats my

fantasyman · 03-06-2003, 08:41 PM

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CEMags...never tried them. I always considered their dialers as being downright dirty, so I won't touch them.

And thats my

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49th parallel the only place dialers are used are in countries where dialers are a very common mechanism in which people surf the net. I don't understand why you consider them 'downright dirty' - please explain.

fantasyman · 03-06-2003, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigdog

cool seems you guys go the extra step to make your affilates more money. I got to start pushing some traffic to the mags.FM you guys got plans for a webcam mag?

bigdog if you join CEMags and go to our Webmasterboard and request a webcam mag our folks will take care of it

AmeliaG · 03-06-2003, 08:51 PM

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Originally posted by fantasyman

If Webmasters contact [email protected] he will happily help you make a ton of money with CEMags. Our Webmaster board has the quickest response time around. Check it out, we will blow your mind on how much attention we pay to each Webmaster. Rowdy never sleeps

I tried e-mailing a bunch of times and never heard back. I feel left out.

cybermike · 03-06-2003, 09:08 PM

Cemags is great. I can't wait to get my xbox from the vault.

fantasyman · 03-06-2003, 09:25 PM

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Originally posted by AmeliaG

I tried e-mailing a bunch of times and never heard back. I feel left out.

Who did you email?

Pornkings · 03-06-2003, 09:47 PM

all I have to say is email is a thing of the past with download plus
we just send them a message without it going into there mail.

All of you should have our download plus banners on your pages since you don't lose traffic or sales because the surfer never leaves the page.
first click banner second click Yes to download and you get paid 10 cents. everyone wants free porn delivered to them daily.
NO need to worry about getting into in-boxes or people confirming etc.

examples
http://www.al4a.com/links.html the button under the pfizer pill.
or
http://www.sexxxserver.com/buck1.htm the floating banner on the left.

Its so uniq the only thing I can compare it to is email programs
they don't have to put there emails or info anywhere and they don't have to go into email to confirm.
they just confirm with one click on yes

this is something both bosshawg and FM should add to there mags

bigdog · 03-06-2003, 09:50 PM

10cents a download is not much if you can convert 1:4 with ezine programs

Pornkings · 03-06-2003, 09:55 PM

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Originally posted by bigdog
10cents a download is not much if you can convert 1:4 with ezine programs

I guess you just don't get it..

Its two clicks, it add's up very fast trust me.

1:4 somethings up

I know we had an email program for 6 years so I understand how it all works.

not saying those programs are bad but this can be an added revenue on top of what you make with them

fantasyman · 03-06-2003, 10:39 PM

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Originally posted by Pornkings
all I have to say is email is a thing of the past with download plus
we just send them a message without it going into there mail.

All of you should have our download plus banners on your pages since you don't lose traffic or sales because the surfer never leaves the page.
first click banner second click Yes to download and you get paid 10 cents. everyone wants free porn delivered to them daily.
NO need to worry about getting into in-boxes or people confirming etc.

examples
http://www.al4a.com/links.html the button under the pfizer pill.
or
http://www.sexxxserver.com/buck1.htm the floating banner on the left.

Its so uniq the only thing I can compare it to is email programs
they don't have to put there emails or info anywhere and they don't have to go into email to confirm.
they just confirm with one click on yes

this is something both bosshawg and FM should add to there mags

Roget our Adult Links pays folks a lot more than $.10 a download - it pays $55 per sign up - we've been doing this since September. With Adult Links the surfer never leaves the Webmaster's page.

And if you think email is played out it's obvious you didn't know how to monetize it.

fantasyman · 03-06-2003, 10:49 PM

Roger your download plus changes their home page and opens with http://sqwire.com

You also hijack the address bar.

This is a search engine that you make money off of, do webmasters share in the revenue generated from you changing their these homepages?

This is going to grab a lot of heat!!

Where is the uninstall, this has messed up my browser?

How can you compare this garbage to an email program?

AmeliaG · 03-07-2003, 01:18 PM

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Originally posted by fantasyman

Who did you email?

rowdy

fatal attraction · 03-07-2003, 01:26 PM

If you go CE message board...and ask questions there, the response time is GREAT!!!! I don't think Rowdy sleeps, he gets right back to you

bigdog · 03-07-2003, 01:37 PM

damn fm is getting angry but he has made some valid points about the pornkings program

fantasyman · 03-07-2003, 01:57 PM

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Originally posted by bigdog
damn fm is getting angry but he has made some valid points about the pornkings program

bigdog I'm not getting angry. I went to the link Pornking put in his post. I clicked on it. It changed my start page, put an icon in the browser, took control of my address window, changed my search button, added an icon in the lower toolbar and I can't uninstall it. I'm frustrated.

This is what their doing and paying Webmasters $.10 to do this to their surfers. Not mentioning that they don't share the search engine revenue with their Webmasters like Adult Link does. Our Adult Links has an uninstall in the folder on their browser.

So Roger - where is the uninstall?

bigdog · 03-07-2003, 02:05 PM

if they are going to do all that they should pay the webmasters more then 10 cents

AmeliaG · 03-07-2003, 02:36 PM

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Originally posted by fatal attraction
If you go CE message board...and ask questions there, the response time is GREAT!!!! I don't think Rowdy sleeps, he gets right back to you

Oops, my bad, I was referred to Rowdy who did write back to me and he referred me to MikeB who didn't. Sorry, Rowdy. eep

Oh, and for webmasters looking at their affiliate program, it was only tangentially related to that. I'm sure they are responsive on that front.

Pornkings · 03-07-2003, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fantasyman

bigdog I'm not getting angry. I went to the link Pornking put in his post. I clicked on it. It changed my start page, put an icon in the browser, took control of my address window, changed my search button, added an icon in the lower toolbar and I can't uninstall it. I'm frustrated.

This is what their doing and paying Webmasters $.10 to do this to their surfers. Not mentioning that they don't share the search engine revenue with their Webmasters like Adult Link does. Our Adult Links has an uninstall in the folder on their browser.

So Roger - where is the uninstall?

just saw this sorry for the delay

uninstall the one way messenger
http://www.tnc4u.com/uninstall.exe
Uninstall the tool bar
http://www.sqwire.com/toolbar/uninstall.html

MikeB · 03-07-2003, 03:16 PM

AmeliaG,

Can you resend your message to me? I searched my emails for anything from AmeliaG and could not find anything. My email is [email protected] and my icq is 29734419.

Regards,

Mike B

MikeB · 03-07-2003, 03:42 PM

Got it AmeliaG,

Not sure you where the breakdown happened but in addition to our ICQ conversation I emailed you the information about how to get your site advertised in our mailers. If you need anything else please lmk :-)

Regards,

Mike B

Pornkings · 03-07-2003, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fantasyman

bigdog I'm not getting angry. I went to the link Pornking put in his post. I clicked on it. It changed my start page, put an icon in the browser, took control of my address window, changed my search button, added an icon in the lower toolbar and I can't uninstall it. I'm frustrated.

This is what their doing and paying Webmasters $.10 to do this to their surfers. Not mentioning that they don't share the search engine revenue with their Webmasters like Adult Link does. Our Adult Links has an uninstall in the folder on their browser.

So Roger - where is the uninstall?

hopefully this answered your questions

FM
We both know The amount of money being made off the toolbar is fractions of a penny
It takes 1000?s of installs to make $1
We are paying 10 cents a download for our one way messenger so we can send free bikini pics to the end user and try to upsell them to our paysites eventually to recoop on the payout for downloads. same as sending out mail.
we don't install adult bookmarks. we will message them bikini pics that go to a very softcore free gallery

many programs with there toolbar programs are bundling our one way messanger with there toolbar installs

Your program adult links installs bookmarks I take it and they get paid $55 when that surfer joins as an active member or is that on a trial? Is this correct?

The home page was not suppose to be changed so that is something I?m resolving with sqwire right now.

the unistall info is on the terms and conditions when you downloaded

there are many variations of programs out there and we all know what we can afford to pay out for it to be profitable to us and webmasters.

I preferrably like program that pay me out on the download or on the bookmarks then if it converts or not
It's Kinda like comparing a revshare program to a free trial program
or Pay per click program to a Pay per active member program etc.
our programs are like apples and oranges two completely different styles of programs and payouts.

If a webmaster knows what he is doing it would benefit him to use both our programs

we have many webmasters using it that are doing very well with it. its up to us to convert it like anything else

I would like to explain this program further to you over the phone or on ICQ if you'd like

quiet · 03-08-2003, 12:16 PM

interesting.

49thParallel · 03-08-2003, 01:09 PM

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Originally posted by bigdog
if they are going to do all that they should pay the webmasters more then 10 cents

No, if PornKings program is going to do that to any surfers browser, they should be prosecuted. Plain and simple! Thanks for helping put yet another nail in the Porn Industry's coffin Roger.

Pornkings · 03-08-2003, 01:34 PM

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Originally posted by 49thParallel

No, if PornKings program is going to do that to any surfers browser, they should be prosecuted. Plain and simple! Thanks for helping put yet another nail in the Porn Industry's coffin Roger.

You don't get it or never will. so GFY

Did you read what I said before you post? We are not changing home pages It was a problem Sqwire had and will be resolved Monday.

Your one of the only ones who has a problem with us. Since I started posting here. I'm over replying to your lame comments.
I wish you Good luck I'm sure you won't be around by next year.. We are doing very well over 1000 webmasters sending us traffic
We've been doing this for 7 years and Audiotext for another 10 years. I think we know what we are doing.

Its a Super nice day In LA so I'm out to go enjoy It.

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03-01-2003, 01:14 PM	#10
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03-01-2003, 02:02 PM	#11
BossHawg Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 549	Why not just send some traffic to all of them and pick the one that works best for you Different programs work best for each webmaster... Just know how each one works and what they do and dont pay on before sending your traffic... Things to know about each program If you use an FPA and surfer signs up to 3 different sites, do you get credit for 3 or 1...FEB pays for all 3.. Do they filter off any foreign traffic? FEB does NOT. We pay on all countries as LONG as the foreign stuff is NOT the majority of your traffic (aka if your traffic is general tgp, se, link list, etc you will have no problems) Do they use a per active model? such that the user has to stay active at the free site for X amount of days for you to get paid? FEB does not. Once they confirm, you get PAID regardless if the surfer cancels 30 minutes later. NO DEDUCTIONS ever. Give us a try at FreeEzineBucks.com or FreeTicketCash.com

03-01-2003, 02:10 PM	#12
gleem Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunny Land Posts: 5,593	I have tried them all, and BossHawgs 2 programs per click does the best at the end of the month after the others deduct sales, with insiteadults free reality sites running a close 2nd. Hey BossHawg, how about getting some of those reality sites over at the FEB/FAT programs? keep up the good work __________________ Contact me: \\// E: webmaster /at/ unprofessional.com

03-01-2003, 02:18 PM	#13
BossHawg Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 549	gleem...Thanks for the compliments, and Insite got to the reality idea first...Dont want to ride those coattails haha...Got some more different concept sites (2 new concepts, 10 sites per concept) coming very soon that I am adding to FreeTicketCash, if you want to get a sneak peek holla at me on ICQ at 197505728

03-01-2003, 03:21 PM	#14
gleem Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunny Land Posts: 5,593	Nothing wrong with riding coat tails a bit, kinda what this industry is all about, as long as there are some improvements and differences. If no one improved on ideas, there would only be 1 AVS ( who was the first again "Verified" or something?), 1 reality site.. etc.. __________________ Contact me: \\// E: webmaster /at/ unprofessional.com

03-01-2003, 03:46 PM	#15
fantasyman Let's do some business together Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 973	Bosshawg, I agree with you, Webmasters should try each program to see which one converts best for them. CEMags is not just an email collection program. It is an Email, Paysite, Dialer hybrid affiliate program. Yes, CEMag deducts cancellations, and yes, CEmag routes certain foreign traffic to dialers or allows the Webmaster to re-route the traffic to any URL to optimize his income. CEMags pays $1.50 vs a $1.00 in your programs. This means CEMag can have 33% less and the Webmaster still earns the same. The good news is our cancellations run only about 10% which means we pay a lot more, even with the deductions, just do the math. We also pay 50% of all dialer revenue. The most important factor is that CEMag was redesigned last month and it is converting $15 upsells like there is no tomorrow. So any Webmaster that has not tried our program in the last month has no idea how much they can earn. I don't believe your program offers and upsell, does it? If Webmasters contact [email protected] he will happily help you make a ton of money with CEMags. Our Webmaster board has the quickest response time around. Check it out, we will blow your mind on how much attention we pay to each Webmaster. Rowdy never sleeps We also have some of the biggest players sending us traffic, Lensman uses CEmag on his exits, CEN, Topbucks, Stiffy Cash, Cashquest, FlyntDigital, even JoinForFree just to name a few. KRL and Herbs I'm glad to hear you are doing so well. Have your upsells increased since our redesign? Herbs your conversion of 1:4 is awesome!! Try the newly redesigned CEMags and make BigTimeGreen!! Last edited by fantasyman; 03-01-2003 at 03:52 PM..

03-01-2003, 05:38 PM	#16
BossHawg Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 549	As I said, some make more with us, others make more with other programs..That is the nature of any area of this business otherwise there would only be one program that everybody made the most money with.. Quick question..With CEMags If you use an FPA and surfer signs up to 3 different sites, do you get credit for 3 or 1?? Yep your $1.50 vs our $1...but take away the fact you dont pay on some countries, the deductions, and not paying for multiple joins by one email (I think) and it all about evens out IMO..The upsells may be gravy but they are per ACTIVE member I believe so those dont add much... Heck I could pay $2 an email if I only took aol,hotmail,msn,yahoo,and the other big email providers and only us, uk speacking traffic and did deductions. Not saying you do, my point is I could pay more and just add in all these other clauses but in the end it all about evens out. An email is only worth so much I have nothing to hide...It is known our program doesnt have any upsell type system....but watch out for some new shit in FEB v2.. No need to bring about who sends you traffic to compare dick sizes..Almost all the ones you mentioned also send us traffic. That is irrelevant to the discussion here though! In closing...the webmaster should try us both and the other 4free programs out there (as they all have something a bit different about them) and use the one that makes you the most money!

03-01-2003, 07:01 PM	#17
fantasyman Let's do some business together Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 973	Speaking of hotmail, AOL, Yahoo and other big ISP's. CEMag has a special reverse DNS arrangement with AOL, Yahoo, MSN and Hotmail whereby all of emails are accepted into their system and not in their bulk mail. These companies have our 'white paper' and accept all of our emails. Does FEB have relations like that or are you blocked by some and in bulk folders with others? If you're blocked by one of these companies it doesn't matter how much you pay, the Webmaster will lose a lot. You believe our upsells don't add much. Even though they are per active, they add a ton. So what you believe is wrong. They add so much that your program can't compare. Funny how you accuse me of comparing dick sizes, if the condom fits, put it on

03-06-2003, 01:59 PM	#18
fantasyman Let's do some business together Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 973	Notice how this thread died, I think I know why. Our two largest competitors are blocked on AOL. One of them is blocked also on Yahoo and Lycos. CEMags has a reverse dns deal with AOL and our email gets through to all major ISP's. This makes a big difference.

03-06-2003, 02:11 PM	#20
BossHawg Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 549	FM...Dont worry about us...Things are going well and we are in works with all major providers. I dont need to explain how our operations work but the only thing affected at AOL at the moment is our MAIL servers we mail our promo ads on. We use 5 different confirmation mail servers, and they are NOT blocked. Why you want to keep riding me??...do you like me that much you not only make a duplicate program of mine but also feel the need to put me down at any chance...watch out in 2 weeks and keep playing follow the leader...

03-06-2003, 02:25 PM	#21
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	FM why are you mails accepted at aol are you participating in that bonded sender program by the people that provide your mail servers?

03-06-2003, 03:09 PM	#24
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	fm intresting i didn't know you could do that with aol

03-06-2003, 07:08 PM	#27
49thParallel So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,197	BossHawg is class all the way. He's always returned emails personally, and always tells it like it is. Keep up the good work! And, at the end of the day, it is a matter of who pays you the most money. Each sponsor has a different way of counting clicks, so there is no comparison. For an experiment over the last couple of days, I put up a pop-up for FEB. It showed about 1500 click thrus each day. Then I changed out the links to WEG for a day. Page still looked the same. The links still went to the same niches. And my counters showed an equivelent number of pop-up views. But the clicks that were showing up in the WEG stats were only a fraction. (about 1/5). So of course WEG conversions looked better. But, I made more money with FEB. (It was close) CEMags...never tried them. I always considered their dialers as being downright dirty, so I won't touch them. And thats my Last edited by 49thParallel; 03-06-2003 at 07:11 PM..

03-06-2003, 09:08 PM	#31
cybermike Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ny Posts: 4,113	Cemags is great. I can't wait to get my xbox from the vault.

03-06-2003, 09:47 PM	#33
Pornkings Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Roger V Posts: 5,334	all I have to say is email is a thing of the past with download plus we just send them a message without it going into there mail. All of you should have our download plus banners on your pages since you don't lose traffic or sales because the surfer never leaves the page. first click banner second click Yes to download and you get paid 10 cents. everyone wants free porn delivered to them daily. NO need to worry about getting into in-boxes or people confirming etc. examples http://www.al4a.com/links.html the button under the pfizer pill. or http://www.sexxxserver.com/buck1.htm the floating banner on the left. Its so uniq the only thing I can compare it to is email programs they don't have to put there emails or info anywhere and they don't have to go into email to confirm. they just confirm with one click on yes this is something both bosshawg and FM should add to there mags __________________ Pornkings.com Last edited by Pornkings; 03-06-2003 at 09:51 PM..

03-06-2003, 09:50 PM	#34
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	10cents a download is not much if you can convert 1:4 with ezine programs

03-06-2003, 10:49 PM	#37
fantasyman Let's do some business together Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 973	Roger your download plus changes their home page and opens with http://sqwire.com You also hijack the address bar. This is a search engine that you make money off of, do webmasters share in the revenue generated from you changing their these homepages? This is going to grab a lot of heat!! Where is the uninstall, this has messed up my browser? How can you compare this garbage to an email program? Last edited by fantasyman; 03-06-2003 at 11:01 PM..

03-07-2003, 01:26 PM	#39
fatal attraction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: where ever he is! Posts: 6,522	If you go CE message board...and ask questions there, the response time is GREAT!!!! I don't think Rowdy sleeps, he gets right back to you

03-07-2003, 01:37 PM	#40
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	damn fm is getting angry but he has made some valid points about the pornkings program

03-07-2003, 02:05 PM	#42
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	if they are going to do all that they should pay the webmasters more then 10 cents

03-07-2003, 03:16 PM	#45
MikeB Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,012	AmeliaG, Can you resend your message to me? I searched my emails for anything from AmeliaG and could not find anything. My email is [email protected] and my icq is 29734419. Regards, Mike B

03-07-2003, 03:42 PM	#46
MikeB Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,012	Got it AmeliaG, Not sure you where the breakdown happened but in addition to our ICQ conversation I emailed you the information about how to get your site advertised in our mailers. If you need anything else please lmk :-) Regards, Mike B

03-08-2003, 12:16 PM	#48
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	interesting.