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Phoenix 09-24-2013 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 19811433)
He also committed suicide later...

yeah i mentioned that in my post :)

DWB 09-24-2013 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 19811356)
I get the need to take pictures and agree the photographers are needed.
I just want to bring some sense into this argument.

This picture was taken by a famous photographer who later killed himself. In his letter he talks about this, and how it gave him nightmares for life. Probably the reason he went into the darkness.

Sometimes you need to be human. This picture defines one of the fundamental flaws of being human. After taking the picture the guy left and caught his plane.
http://iconicphotos.files.wordpress....pg?w=700&h=466

That's one of the images out there that haunts me. This is the other one...

http://i.imgur.com/JmCIRBW.jpg

I'm not sure how you can even mentally process something like that in person. It shames me as a human to know such hunger exists, while the powers that be spend millions of dollars an hour fighting unnecessary wars.

This will bake your noodle: http://nationalpriorities.org/cost-of/

Sarah_Jayne 09-24-2013 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 19811356)
I get the need to take pictures and agree the photographers are needed.
I just want to bring some sense into this argument.

This picture was taken by a famous photographer who later killed himself. In his letter he talks about this, and how it gave him nightmares for life. Probably the reason he went into the darkness.

Sometimes you need to be human. This picture defines one of the fundamental flaws of being human. After taking the picture the guy left and caught his plane.
http://iconicphotos.files.wordpress....pg?w=700&h=466

I've seen the image many times and it has always been heart stopping. The reality is though that there isn't much he could have done at that stage to help that child and that is probably part of what brought him to that point. What he did do was help to alert the world. I can't imagine what it is like to have watched that image play out for real in front of me.

I did once have the chance to speak to a photographer that was one of the first to go into the concentration camps and he felt much the same way as the photographer you mentioned and went through many years of mental health issues afterwards.

It is like this report, which is widely regarded as one of the best pieces of tv journalism. There wasn't much he could do to save people but he could show the realities and get people to pay attention.



https://youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=XYOj_6OYuJc - embedding disabled apparently

I'm not doing the GFY 'f you, you are all wrong' thing ..its an interesting discussion.

Phoenix 09-24-2013 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_Jayne (Post 19811448)
I've seen the image many times and it has always been heart stopping. The reality is though that there isn't much he could have done at that stage to help that child and that is probably part of what brought him to that point. What he did do was help to alert the world. I can't imagine what it is like to have watched that image play out for real in front of me.

I did once have the chance to speak to a photographer that was one of the firsts to go into the concentration camps and he felt much the same way as the photographer you mentioned and went through many years of mental health issues afterwards.

It is like this report, which is widely regarded as one of the best pieces of tv journalism. There wasn't much he could do to save people but he could show the realities and get people to pay attention.




I'm not doing the GFY 'f you, you are all wrong' thing ..its an interesting discussion.

yeah it is a crazy world. :(
Many years ago, like 20 or more one of my friends brothers left medical school packed his bags up and went to Ethiopia. He wanted to help people, he spent his own money or his parents. Anyway when he got there he was in shock. I think he actually thought the entire country was in poverty.

The city he landed in was bustling, movie theaters, nice restaurants. Then he got taken tot he country side. He left in disgust a few months later. Their own people let them starve to death while they watch movies and eat in fancy restaurants.

Each country should start to watch for their own people. Stop meddling in foreign affairs.
Anyone not able to feed it's own people should be taken over.

winter_ 09-24-2013 06:02 PM

i might get flamed for this but i will say that was staged. not the whole event, but just that shot. the girl appears to be in evident distress, there is a man wanting to help her, people are dead, people are dying, more people could be killed, gunfire is sprackling out in that complex, but i think that photographer was more involved than most of us think and he asked the man and the girl to be in that motion for his kodak moment.

Stacy Crak 10-01-2013 11:10 AM

Really sad thread... wish the world was a better place.

_Richard_ 10-01-2013 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 19810596)
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/...63_634x583.jpg

This is another really sad photo, even though the two children and their mother survived, how fucked up are their lives going to be now? It's just heart-rendering seeing those children clutching the mars bars (that, apparently, the terrorists gave to them!).
And yes, in this case I can see why the photographer took the picture as, even though they are obviously traumatised and have to stand next to a dead body, they were in a safe(ish) area and the mother is just out of shot.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ing-lives.html

ahh these must be the kids that told off the dude

incredible story :thumbsup

VikingMan 10-01-2013 11:38 AM

Almost all humans are sociopaths to some degree. The fact you know that children are starving all over the world yet you go to Starbucks every day and order a $4 blended coffee drink and $3 scone or insist on paying $15,000 for a Toyota with a Lexus symbol on it shows you are a sociopath. If you cared one ounce of bettering this world then you would live way below your means and donate the rest to charity. How many people do this? Almost none. By the way this post was not directly at the OP but at the average person who lives in "rich" countries such as USA.

VikingMan 10-01-2013 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 19811356)
I get the need to take pictures and agree the photographers are needed.
I just want to bring some sense into this argument.

This picture was taken by a famous photographer who later killed himself. In his letter he talks about this, and how it gave him nightmares for life. Probably the reason he went into the darkness.

Sometimes you need to be human. This picture defines one of the fundamental flaws of being human. After taking the picture the guy left and caught his plane.
http://iconicphotos.files.wordpress....pg?w=700&h=466

I heard the back story on this photo was that the photographer sat there and watched the kid all day until the vulture landed in the right spot for this photo.:(

_Richard_ 10-01-2013 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by VikingMan (Post 19818574)
I heard the back story on this photo was that the photographer sat there and watched the kid all day until the vulture landed in the right spot for this photo.:(

the sad part is for how terrible the story sounds

that photographer did way more to help kids in africa than all of us combined

halfpint 10-01-2013 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by VikingMan (Post 19818573)
Almost all humans are sociopaths to some degree. The fact you know that children are starving all over the world yet you go to Starbucks every day and order a $4 blended coffee drink and $3 scone or insist on paying $15,000 for a Toyota with a Lexus symbol on it shows you are a sociopath. If you cared one ounce of bettering this world then you would live way below your means and donate the rest to charity. How many people do this? Almost none. By the way this post was not directly at the OP but at the average person who lives in "rich" countries such as USA.

You are correct in saying this and a lot of people think they are hard done by living here in the UK. I was talking to somebody at work and he said a similar thing that there are no starving people in the UK. We have no real idea of what its like to have no food or clean water, and we dont know how lucky we really are, even the people who dont work or dont have much in the UK dont know what its like to be a starving child or a family caught up in somebody elses war.

I live pretty comfortable and Im lucky I do have a well paid job and I do give to both people and animal charitys by way of direct debit each month, but I could give a lot more if I did not buy half the crap I waste my money on. We are so used to having and wanting material things we very often forget about the people who really do need help.

Rochard 10-01-2013 03:34 PM

Makes you wonder how brave you be if something like this happened to you.


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