what's the latest in the guitar world? fill me in!

[dyna mo]

practicing like a fiend here, ~4 hours/day during the week, more on the weekends, if i'm not away.

ever hear these guys? that's ginger baker on the drum kit! but the guitar work is tres cool.

[SilentKnight]

Your Ginger Baker reference caught my eye.

I watched Beware of Mr. Baker a few weeks ago. Quite the interesting documentary if you haven't seen it yet.

After watchin' it...I remembered seeing him on an old Arsenio Hall show way back...so I dug around and found the footage - also interesting for old Cream fans.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Your Ginger Baker reference caught my eye.

I watched Beware of Mr. Baker a few weeks ago. Quite the interesting documentary if you haven't seen it yet.

After watchin' it...I remembered seeing him on an old Arsenio Hall show way back...so I dug around and found the footage - also interesting for old Cream fans.

isn't that a fantastic doc? far-l recommended it to me in another thread, lolz.

i recently watched the cream documentary, it's also well-done and covers a lot of that 1964-67 timeline of what each band member was up to prior to cream forming.

that you tube song i linked was in my guitar songs folder, it was an added extra to discover ginger was slinging drums for this band too.

i'm a goddamn jazz drummer, not a rock drummer!

ok, ginger. now i know where the ginger reference comes from!

[SilentKnight]

On the Arsenio Hall show (guest hosted that night by Ross Schafer) the guy asks Ginger Baker, "You've not been on TV for about twenty years. What have you been doing?"

Baker replies, "I've been farming."

[Major (Tom)]

I just picked up a YJM 100 Marshall Head. Still dickin around with it to find a sound I like
Ds

[Nicky]

Nothin much, learning some riffs on my Ib 2550z awaiting the new Dream Theater album being released on the 24th

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

I just picked up a YJM 100 Marshall Head. Still dickin around with it to find a sound I like
Ds

i think i heard you on that beast from here.

what cab are you running it through?

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

On the Arsenio Hall show (guest hosted that night by Ross Schafer) the guy asks Ginger Baker, "You've not been on TV for about twenty years. What have you been doing?"

Baker replies, "I've been farming."

umm

1. thta intro is hilarious

2. ginger fucking kills it! dang, in fact, that entire band kills it, great rendition, hard to do a blues song with heavy drums like that but they kill it.

dang!

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Nicky

Nothin much, learning some riffs on my Ib 2550z awaiting the new Dream Theater album being released on the 24th

impressive reviews on yer git

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/revie...50z/index.html

do you pretty much play metal on tht or some other genres?

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i think i heard you on that beast from here.

what cab are you running it through?

Marshall 1960 A cab. It sounds good but I'm still trying to get it to sound great. Seems to sound really good with Lace Golds, Seymour Duncan YJM fury pickups, & the Quarter pounds. The fender ns3 noiseless & the EJ strat pickups sound pretty bad through it. I don't know why yet.
Ds

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

Marshall 1960 A cab. It sounds good but I'm still trying to get it to sound great. Seems to sound really good with Lace Golds, Seymour Duncan YJM fury pickups, & the Quarter pounds. The fender ns3 noiseless & the EJ strat pickups sound pretty bad through it. I don't know why yet.
Ds

right on, sounds like fun sorting that out. i'm not familiar with most of those, although i have a funkified fender with seymour duncan p-90s, sounds fantastic through my old silvertone amps.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

I just picked up a YJM 100 Marshall Head. Still dickin around with it to find a sound I like
Ds

just finished reading this review of your amp, impressive.

http://www.tonymckenzie.com/yjm100_review.htm

i've been checking out the egnater tweaker 15, might have to snag one.

[Minte]

I am NOT looking at anything new in sept. Now October will certainly bring that tele to collection.

[dyna mo]

which tele Minte?

[Minte]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

which tele Minte?

The thinline.

http://www.fender.com/guitars/teleca...-violin-burst/

[garce]

You'll poke and stroke 'till your wrists get numb, but you still never hear no Dyna Mo hum...

Gear doesn't matter.

[Vendzilla]

I need to start playing again

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Minte

The thinline.

http://www.fender.com/guitars/teleca...-violin-burst/

very very nice

[Robbie]

Just finished working on my newest song: "Milked"

I used all open tuned guitars for this one. Really wanted to get that "sound" and I played the riff deep, deep in the pocket. Gonna start shooting the video for it next week.
http://tptrash.com/milked.mp3

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Minte

The thinline.

http://www.fender.com/guitars/teleca...-violin-burst/

oh yah, super nice! birdseye and flamed. some of these guitars are things of beauty.

btw, the sorrento got here today, a day early

it's gorgi!

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Just finished working on my newest song: "Milked"

I used all open tuned guitars for this one. Really wanted to get that "sound" and I played the riff deep, deep in the pocket. Gonna start shooting the video for it next week.
http://tptrash.com/milked.mp3

hahahaha! Robbie, that is massively kick ass! dang, all around, that's claudia-maria singing right? she nails it! killer gits too man.

lemme guess who wrote those lyrics!!1

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by garce

You'll poke and stroke 'till your wrists get numb, but you still never hear no Dyna Mo hum...

best lyric in hiistory!

[Minte]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

oh yah, super nice! birdseye and flamed. some of these guitars are things of beauty.

btw, the sorrento got here today, a day early

it's gorgi!

You know the drill!

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Minte

You know the drill!

derp! where have i heard that before.........nopics yet, i will say the fit & finish is very good, made in indonesia, well-done. incredible value, the case is totally retro, the olive color is very vintage. gibson usa minihumbucker sound super nice, quiet though.

[dyna mo]

ok, 1 pic, stand-by, but's this is because i cant' figure out how to get the wrapper out from underneath th efloating bridge! lolz

[dyna mo]

this is with very low watt halogen light, the olive gets kind of lost.

but i don't know how to remove that foam paper from underneath the floating bridge without moving the bridge.........any ideas?

[Minte]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

this is with very low watt halogen light, the olive gets kind of lost.

but i don't know how to remove that foam paper from underneath the floating bridge without moving the bridge.........any ideas?

Beautiful guitar!
Removing the foam... floating bridges are a pain at the start. I have one now and have owned several over the years. Before you start make sure to take some measurements from the tail stock or the bottom of the neck. If you have a digital calipers that's the proper tool. You can get them cheap at sears, or most autoparts store.

I would start on the large E side.. take the tension off the first three strings and rip the paper out..then tighten the strings and do the other side. Before you bring it up to tune check the measurements.

That dimension is only a reference because the guitar is probably not set up right anyhow, and will require some tweaking. If it won't tune right, you are better off taking it to a pro and spend the $100 to get it set. Then...once that is done. NEVER take off all the strings. Replace them one at a time.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

practicing like a fiend here, ~4 hours/day during the week, more on the weekends, if i'm not away.

ever hear these guys? that's ginger baker on the drum kit! but the guitar work is tres cool.

masters of reality are great. this album is a lot more traditional that some of their other ones.

[iSpyCams]

Originally Posted by Minte

Beautiful guitar!
Removing the foam... floating bridges are a pain at the start. I have one now and have owned several over the years. Before you start make sure to take some measurements from the tail stock or the bottom of the neck. If you have a digital calipers that's the proper tool. You can get them cheap at sears, or most autoparts store.

I would start on the large E side.. take the tension off the first three strings and rip the paper out..then tighten the strings and do the other side. Before you bring it up to tune check the measurements.

That dimension is only a reference because the guitar is probably not set up right anyhow, and will require some tweaking. If it won't tune right, you are better off taking it to a pro and spend the $100 to get it set. Then...once that is done. NEVER take off all the strings. Replace them one at a time.

Doing the setup your self isn't that hard, of course you want a digital tuner, a $10 snark will work.

Check the tuning of each string on the 12th fret, get it just right, then check the tuning of the harmonic (lightly touching the string without depressing it) - they should register to the tuner to be exactly the same. If the harmonic is lower in pitch than the 12th fret then the bridge needs to be nudged softly towards the neck, if too high then it needs to be nudged away from the neck.

Get it as close as you can this way for the high and low e strings, the fine tune with the little screws on that tuneomatic, as each string will need to be a slightly different length for optimum intonation.

For string height, if you are comfortable playing it and the there is no fret buzzing, generally I would leave it alone. otherwise lower the tuneomatic bridge as far as you can without the strings buzzing out. If you can't get it low enough to play comfortably without buzz then the neck relief may be wrong and that requires a truss rod adjustment which isn't hard to do but if you don't understand how that works then def. take it to a pro.

The last thing you want to check is the distance between the pups and the strings. Rule of thumb is 1/8" for the bridge pup and 1/4" for the neck as a starting point. The idea is that the closer they are the more sensitive they become, but too close and the magnet in the pup will pull the string and interfere with it vibrating, so the perfect distance is going to depend a lot on your preference, basically adjust it till you like the sound.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Minte

Beautiful guitar!
Removing the foam... floating bridges are a pain at the start. I have one now and have owned several over the years. Before you start make sure to take some measurements from the tail stock or the bottom of the neck. If you have a digital calipers that's the proper tool. You can get them cheap at sears, or most autoparts store.

I would start on the large E side.. take the tension off the first three strings and rip the paper out..then tighten the strings and do the other side. Before you bring it up to tune check the measurements.

That dimension is only a reference because the guitar is probably not set up right anyhow, and will require some tweaking. If it won't tune right, you are better off taking it to a pro and spend the $100 to get it set. Then...once that is done. NEVER take off all the strings. Replace them one at a time.

xcllnt, thank you! i'm pretty stoked with this git so far, it's a epi outift, and i got 15% off as well, i'm stunned at the quality of components too, this is a lot of guitar for <$600


that's a good idea for removing that foam. i am getting some digital calipers, i do have the snark you recommended and feeler gauges, i'm also getting a straight metal ruler. bought a book on how to set-up your git but it didn't include floating bridges.

the guitar *seems* to be close to right.

the big and only issue i have with it is the neck is set into the body of the guitar too far! i can't reach the 20th fret properly and when i can, the notes are not registering properly, i don't know if that is due to my technique throwing it off, having to torque my hand to get the 20th fret or if the intonation is off.

but i think this guitar is worth a trip to the luthier.

Originally Posted by pompousjohn

Doing the setup your self isn't that hard, of course you want a digital tuner, a $10 snark will work.

Check the tuning of each string on the 12th fret, get it just right, then check the tuning of the harmonic (lightly touching the string without depressing it) - they should register to the tuner to be exactly the same. If the harmonic is lower in pitch than the 12th fret then the bridge needs to be nudged softly towards the neck, if too high then it needs to be nudged away from the neck.

Get it as close as you can this way for the high and low e strings, the fine tune with the little screws on that tuneomatic, as each string will need to be a slightly different length for optimum intonation.

For string height, if you are comfortable playing it and the there is no fret buzzing, generally I would leave it alone. otherwise lower the tuneomatic bridge as far as you can without the strings buzzing out. If you can't get it low enough to play comfortably without buzz then the neck relief may be wrong and that requires a truss rod adjustment which isn't hard to do but if you don't understand how that works then def. take it to a pro.

The last thing you want to check is the distance between the pups and the strings. Rule of thumb is 1/8" for the bridge pup and 1/4" for the neck as a starting point. The idea is that the closer they are the more sensitive they become, but too close and the magnet in the pup will pull the string and interfere with it vibrating, so the perfect distance is going to depend a lot on your preference, basically adjust it till you like the sound.

the intonation at the 12th fret for all the strings is spot on using my snark, it gets wompy at the higher frets though, 17-20. i am not sure how to adjust properly for that. the relief is pretty much spot on, i checked that at the 7th fret and the action is pretty low, not a low as it can go, but it's pretty good, maybe a skosh high on the low e side.

[iSpyCams]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

the intonation at the 12th fret for all the strings is spot on using my snark, it gets wompy at the higher frets though, 17-20. i am not sure how to adjust properly for that. the relief is pretty much spot on, i checked that at the 7th fret and the action is pretty low, not a low as it can go, but it's pretty good, maybe a skosh high on the low e side.

Back when that guitar was designed people mainly played cowboy chords and I don't think you were meant to reach those last frets much if at all. I rarely use them myself so I'm not sure what to do about that. I am not exactly a pro though, I just tinker with my guitars a lot.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by pompousjohn

Back when that guitar was designed people mainly played cowboy chords and I don't think you were meant to reach those last frets much if at all. I rarely use them myself so I'm not sure what to do about that. I am not exactly a pro though, I just tinker with my guitars a lot.

it's only 1 song that's got me going to those notes, so all in all no biggie, the lack of an upper cutout is mostly what i am not use to. but there is only a partial fret after the 20th too, so it's not cutout for the uner high notes.

but using the snark on the low e

12th fret = e

13th fret = f

14th = e#


15th = g


17th = a

20th fret registers as a c note

my ps-72 registers close to the same notes on each fret like this

[iSpyCams]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

it's only 1 song that's got me going to those notes, so all in all no biggie, the lack of an upper cutout is mostly what i am not use to. but there is only a partial fret after the 20th too, so it's not cutout for the uner high notes.

but using the snark on the low e

12th fret = e

13th fret = f

14th = e#


15th = g


17th = a

20th fret registers as a c note

my ps-72 registers close to the same notes on each fret like this

One thing that comes to mind is you may have noticed the frets are pretty close together at that point on the fret board, so the "space" between notes is "smaller". This means that slight differences in finger pressure and the like are going to be much more noticeable than they would be on the lower frets where you have more room to play around. It is possible that a heavier guage string could minimize this issue, beyond that I think you just basically have to intonate at the 12th and above that you get what you get. Maybe if you consistently play in the higher registers on the fretboard find a way to optimize closer to where you play, but the 12th is pretty much the "middle" anyway so not sure how you would do that.

[dyna mo]

ok, getting the hang of this epi, it seems i have to dig in more to get the notes, more than the fender ps-72 i've been learning on. last nite i wanted to describe it like the ps-72 can read my mind about note while i have to tell the sorrento. but after a few hours playing this mronging, it seems just a stronger fretting and picking/strumming make a world of difference. being so new to guitar playing, i am not sure if this is normal, also, i think this git is strung with .10s while i've spent 100% of my learning time on .09s.......these are also the stock strings.

the crazy part about this guitar is the sound it makes, i can set it up clean and just move closer to the amp or turn into or away from it to get really cool distortions. and acoustically loud, it's awesome hearing the acoustic of the full hollow. really neat.

Originally Posted by pompousjohn

One thing that comes to mind is you may have noticed the frets are pretty close together at that point on the fret board, so the "space" between notes is "smaller". This means that slight differences in finger pressure and the like are going to be much more noticeable than they would be on the lower frets where you have more room to play around. It is possible that a heavier guage string could minimize this issue, beyond that I think you just basically have to intonate at the 12th and above that you get what you get. Maybe if you consistently play in the higher registers on the fretboard find a way to optimize closer to where you play, but the 12th is pretty much the "middle" anyway so not sure how you would do that.

it;s funny you mention this, i just learned this. i was struggling getting some notes correct in the upper frets, i figured out i was bending them ever so slightly which wasthrowing off the pitch, as soon as i corrected my technique and fretted the string straight down, i hit the notes- bam!

[Minte]

Someone on one of the guitar boards posted this and I couldn't resist.. FF